02:59:20 <luigi1111> bleets
02:59:26 <luigi1111> twogs
07:56:59 <ErCiccione> one last thing, I think we should always prioritize a blog post over tweets <- i agree and we should probably still make one to clarify things. And yeah, posting a bug on twitter that way with that wording was doomed to create bad press and unreasonable panic, without considering that the trust in the project has been impacted
10:28:39 <msvb-lab> Does Monero Outreach host a public stagenet node? The one hosted by xmrto has been cancelled.
10:40:51 <dEBRUYNE> Fortunately I think the negative impact is not that substantial (press wise), but still a good point ErCiccione 
10:43:48 <ErCiccione> IMO the important thing now is to make a blog post. if somebody can write the text i think we can have it online today if luigi or binaryFate are around
10:47:26 <sethsimmons> <ErCiccione "IMO the important thing now is t"> Maybe jberman would be interested in writing it up, or I can try to take a stab at summarizing it sometime today, but no guarantees.
10:47:35 <sethsimmons> Day job to get to.
10:51:41 <ErCiccione> sure, i'll be afk for a couple of hours but after i can help
13:24:46 <tobtoht> msvb-lab: the xmr.to node is now at stagenet.melo.tools:38081
13:50:26 <binaryFate> this ^ see this page for connection info https://melo.tools/nodes.html
15:27:14 <msvb-lab> Oh, thank you tobtoht and binaryFate. I had real problems searching for stagenet nodes, and our village site node (set up for DC28) is no longer in service.
16:13:12 <msvb-lab> Anyone want to send me one hundred stagenet units? I'll offer them to anyone who asks at Defcon.
16:13:47 <msvb-lab> This means, too lazy to search for a faucet and collect units over the next days.
16:15:10 <selsta> msvb-lab: https://melo.tools/faucet/stagenet/
16:16:17 <msvb-lab> Yes, I did that selsta. It's fine, I'll just keep visiting every day until Defcon begins and collect the units that way.
16:16:41 <msvb-lab> I wanted to avoid the repeated faucet use, but it's fine. Don't worry, I'll get the units collected in time for redistribution.
16:16:45 <tobtoht> msvb-lab: Yes, PM me an address.
16:22:34 <plowsof[m]> visit the faucet - put a sub address for 10 xmr - put another sub address for 10 xmr - repeat - ????? - PROFIT!
16:22:36 <sgp_[m]> Make sure you have plenty of outputs also
16:23:28 <msvb-lab> plowsof[m]: I'm doing this with a self compiled application that doesn't work so well with sub addresses.
16:23:47 <tobtoht> I can send you some 1-in/16-out's.
16:23:58 <tobtoht> Just need an address
16:27:23 <tobtoht> 48x 2.5 XMR coming you way
16:30:19 <msvb-lab> Thank you togtoht, sounds great.
16:31:06 <msvb-lab> The unfortunate thing, is that we may have big problems convincing anyone to experiment with stagenet. But if we get lucky, then at least I will be prepared.
16:40:06 <plowsof[m]> How do you plan on giving people stagenet coins? something like a paper wallet?
16:54:54 <msvb-lab> plowsof[m]: We will try to encorage people to use use the stagenet and offer them stagenet units, yes. And maybe others will do the same with testnet and mainnet, I don't know.
16:55:45 <msvb-lab> But I don't have plans to print paper wallets. The good news is that we may have access to a laser printer. So this could be a problem solved in five minutes in the village.
17:36:41 <plowsof[m]> Sounds fun, maybe some kind of incentive / easter egg hunt e.g. if the stagenet balance is 0.42069 and you email the txid of the transaction you win $5 worth of mainnet xmr (to avoid any real xmr being unclaimed). Thanks for promoting monero usage! 
17:57:41 <sgp_[m]> Do any mobile wallets have an easy to install stagenet version?
18:19:19 <msvb-lab> Yes right plowsof[m]. It's unlikely that we will have any fun or interesting activity like easter eggs. The Monero Community decided to cancel this, after several months of refusing to participate. So the village has zero coordinators for our contest. Not even a single person contributed a single hour.
18:19:42 <msvb-lab> But I'll do my best to say yes to whoever is able to receive stagenet, that's a very easy thing to serve.
18:20:34 <msvb-lab> And yes sgp_[m] Monerujo is currently building both mainnet and stagenet packages. So the easy option is to download a Monerujo APK directly from their repository and install it to the phone as a local package. I think this takes about twenty seconds and is easy to understand.
18:21:10 <sgp_[m]> I wonder why the stagenet edition isn't in the Play Store
18:21:22 <msvb-lab> But if people have non Android operating systems, it may be more difficult. I know that Cake has no option to use stagenet (according to vikrantCake[m]) so that may leave all Apple users out of playing.
18:22:02 <msvb-lab> If the producers (of Monerujo) decided to only publish the mainnet version, then I assume it is to keep things as simple and easy to support as possible? Just a guess.
18:22:29 <msvb-lab> The question you didn't ask is, why not make one application that can serve all three official blockchains?
18:23:05 <msvb-lab> You could make it nearly impossible to activate stagenet and testnet, but a experienced Android user could find the configuration variable and adjust it to use stagenet.
18:23:27 <msvb-lab> Then there would be no need for recompiling and renaming.
18:39:20 <anhdres[m]> There was a stagenet Monerujo APK, pinging m2049r about it 
19:14:27 <msvb-lab> anhdres[m]: It's no problem to find a stagenet Monerujo APK, for example https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/releases/download/v2.0.8/monerujo-2x0x8-stage_universal.apk
19:14:55 <msvb-lab> There were many releases where a stagenet package was not built but at least in the most recent version there is one available.
19:15:19 <msvb-lab> https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/releases/
19:15:31 <anhdres[m]> Solved then 
19:15:56 <msvb-lab> Yes, I was getting ready to build when I saw that a stagenet APK is already there. What a nice surprise.
19:15:59 <anhdres[m]> My work here is done. I'll return to my planet 
19:16:10 <msvb-lab> But a testnet APK is always missing, though it's probably not needed.
19:19:27 <rehrar> sethsimmons: can you approve the Cypher Stack post on reddit?
19:19:34 <rehrar> Milestone 2 is complete on multisig research. 
19:25:10 <nioc> \o/
19:26:16 <selsta> but bad news is that it's complex, though we knew this
20:35:39 <sethsimmons> <rehrar "Seth: can you approve the Cypher"> DM me the link
20:36:33 <selsta> sethsimmons: https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/otgw36/milestone_2_of_triptych_multisig_research_complete/
21:51:53 <sethsimmons> Approved
21:51:56 <sethsimmons> Sorry for the delay!