09:05:55 <plowsof[m]> The response to Fluffy's bail request is a depressing read https://amyhcastor.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/13-main.pdf 
09:06:24 <plowsof[m]> They're calling him a danger to the community 
09:06:36 <plowsof[m]> ridiculous! 
09:11:04 <ComplyLast> that part was written by fireice
09:11:21 <ComplyLast> he always claimed fluffy was a danger to the community
09:13:43 <plowsof[m]> And it clarifies that the max sentence he could face is 15 years (not 60 months)
16:12:40 <carrington[m]> <plowsof[m]> "The response to Fluffy's bail re" <- They also reference the decrypt article with pictures of him partying with Paris Hilton in Miami
16:12:40 <carrington[m]> Honestly his lawyers should have spotted something like that floating around
16:19:48 <sethsimmons> > <@carrington:monero.social> They also reference the decrypt article with pictures of him partying with Paris Hilton in Miami
16:19:48 <sethsimmons> > Honestly his lawyers should have spotted something like that floating around
16:19:48 <sethsimmons> TBF that was when everyone was being told the vaccine was effective at preventing transmission and preventing breakthrough infections.
17:15:33 <xmrscott[m]> TBF, it is and all data continues to suggest so even w/ Delta as cited in Yale publications etc in the court doc which is presumably why fp posed maskless in the pictures referenced. You're going to get massive spread among the unvaccinated when those of a more anti-epidemiologist persuasion make up the majority of the population. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
17:16:07 <xmrscott[m]> The Miami bit is just a footnote in any case on arguing that he doesn't qualify for special circumstance
17:16:25 <xmrscott[m]> Given the precedent set by other courts during court for those w/ medical concerns, etc
17:16:37 <sethsimmons> xmrscott[m]: All recent data is suggesting vaccinated individuals have no reduction in viral load and there is conflicting reports of efficacy against hospitalization death, especially for those vaccinated early.
17:17:06 <sethsimmons> xmrscott[m]: Yeah, it's a genius catch from them as it will destroy his complaints about COVID hesitancy for not travelling in front of any jury.
17:18:32 <xmrscott[m]>  * Given the precedent set by other courts during court for those w/ medical concerns, etc for even those who at the time were unvaxed
17:19:17 <rottenwheel> Lol.
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17:32:21 <xmrscott[m]> Perhaps more importantly and more concisely from that same report for those in the US and Europe: "A single dose of Pfizer BioNTech-Comirnaty, Moderna-
17:32:21 <xmrscott[m]> mRNA-1273 and AstraZeneca-Vaxzevria prevented 78%, 96% and 88% of hospitalizations/deaths due to 
17:32:21 <xmrscott[m]> Delta, respectively."
20:11:02 <selsta> Anyone familiar with US court? This was the result of fluffy's bail hearing: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126.14.0.pdf
20:11:13 <selsta> It seems to be "under advisement" until Monday.
20:31:35 <carrington[m]> Doesn't that mean the gearing started but will continue Monday?
20:32:22 <ajs_[m]> selsta it means a decision has not been made yet. the judge heard the arguments from both sides and will think about it over the weekend.
22:14:11 <midipoet> I wonder how much actual pondering they have to do over the weekend. I assume they have a few that get rolled over and they then just mull on them. probably with a bourbon. 
22:22:44 <Rucknium[m]> According to the social science literature, judges give more lenient sentences if they rule immediately after lunch. Not kidding.
23:02:44 <geonic> plowsof[m]: the SA prosecutor's response is even more depressing: http://amyhcastor.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/spagni-south-africa-prosecuters.pdf
23:08:02 <geonic> and if you're looking for something even more depressing: https://twitter.com/_geonic/status/1423759069014228992?s=20
23:09:35 <geonic> :/