00:02:19 <rottenwheel> Friendly reminder: community meeting tomorrow at 1700 UTC in this channel. Join us.
00:04:55 <rottenwheel> Agenda: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/599
00:06:55 <rottenwheel> Keiji would you like to moderate tomorrow? Seems like the other two guys might not be around. 
00:06:56 <rottenwheel> If need be, I can step up to the plate. We can improvise tomorrow. No big deal.
00:10:40 <Keiji[m]> Given I've advertised on Reddit and forum I might as well moderate. If you like you can do announcements and moderating next time if no one else wants to
00:12:26 <rottenwheel> Nah, no need to. All good.
00:12:38 <rottenwheel> Looking forward. Thanks.
00:12:57 <rottenwheel> About three or four good CCS to go over. Let's hope turnout is good enough for discussions.
00:17:53 <geonic> there are at least two people who won't participate if the moderator is the individual above or if he keeps spamming the meeting like last time. so Keiji[m], please moderate accordingly and keep all comments on topic.
00:19:59 <geonic> two people from different workgroups*
00:21:38 <Keiji[m]> geonic: Ok. They weren't in last meeting so I don't know what the spam would look like: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/588#issuecomment-886088581
00:22:09 <geonic> I must be remembering the first meeting
00:23:56 <rottenwheel> 😂 
00:23:56 <rottenwheel> What a great loss, two morons not participating in a community meeting. Glad I ignored that jerk.
00:23:58 <rottenwheel> Outreach and it's shit stirring nobodies.
00:23:58 <rottenwheel> Comical.
00:24:28 <geonic> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/584
00:24:31 <rottenwheel> * Outreach and its shit stirring nobodies. 
00:26:55 <geonic> hm yeah. ErCiccione is definitely a "nobody from Outreach".. but yes, thank you for proving my point.
00:30:44 <crypto_grampy[m]> vtnerd are you planning on being at this meeting?  There were some really good discussions on monero-lws about a week or so ago and it would be great to understand where this project is at/how it can be pushed forward/if help is needed
00:31:19 <crypto_grampy[m]> * vtnerd are you planning on being at this meeting?  There were some really good discussions on monero-lws about a week or so ago and it would be great to understand where this project is at/how it can be pushed forward/if help is needed.  Cc-ing SerHack 🙃
00:33:17 <crypto_grampy[m]> * vtnerd  are you planning on being at this meeting?  There were some really good discussions on monero-lws about a week or so ago and it would be great to understand where this project is at/how it can be pushed forward/if help is needed.  Cc-ing SerHack 🙃
00:41:13 <geonic> PSA: Matrix sucks 🙃
00:42:43 <crypto_grampy[m]> It really does
00:47:07 <geonic> should rename this channel to #nebekenezer and get everyone off matrix. except that one person, he can rot there.
00:49:44 <sudo_ki[m]> Man.. Can we leave the toxicity at the door please? Not sure it's necessary
01:07:38 <sudo_ki[m]> I think there should have be a separate session/meeting or even room called 'monero beefs'. Where everyone can get together an articulate what they don't like about each other and projects. Airing dirty laundry is a healthy thing
01:07:51 <sudo_ki[m]> * I think there should be a separate session/meeting or even room called 'monero beefs'. Where everyone can get together an articulate what they don't like about each other and projects. Airing dirty laundry is a healthy thing
01:08:20 <sudo_ki[m]> * I think there should be a separate session/meeting or even room called 'monero beefs'. Where everyone can get together an articulate what they don't like about each other and or  project related things. Airing dirty laundry is a healthy thing
01:09:27 <rottenwheel> sudo_ki[m]: Something geonic is very good at, let me tell you.
01:09:44 <rottenwheel> Records people without asking for consent and pulls off very targeted attacks. Pretty low.
01:10:04 <geonic> <sudo_ki[m]> Man.. Can we leave the toxicity at the door please? Not sure it's necessary >>> I'm afraid that would be akin to asking a KKK member to politely stay at the door and not enter
01:10:06 <rottenwheel> Preaching to the choir; I'll let morons be morons and cancel them moving forward. End of the story.
01:11:24 <sudo_ki[m]> Clearly there need to be some basic rules for monero beefs to work constructively
01:12:19 <geonic> I miss the old days when avowed racists just wore white sheets.. it was easier to tell them apart. now these 4chan racists get so easily offended when they're called out
01:13:56 <geonic> so convenient when they can hide behind a keyboard too :)
01:21:13 <geonic> being cowards at heart, they also tend to just run away when confronted in person. but they're sooo talkative when they get behind their keyboard
01:23:29 <sudo_ki[m]> Rule number 1. No hyperboles 
01:24:03 <geonic> and the hyperbole here is..?
01:27:09 <sudo_ki[m]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7TONauJGfc
01:34:39 <geonic> I love Marshall Rosenberg. But I think we should start with this https://www.amazon.com/How-not-RACIST-racist-why/dp/B08BR259DQ
01:36:29 <geonic> but you must assume that our racist friend is antisemitic too, so that video might cause more irreparable damage
01:45:33 <geonic> anyway.. if he ever decides to open a CCS to deal with his daddy issues through therapy instead of spewing vitriol at minorities online, I'd happily donate
01:45:39 <geonic> */end of topic
07:03:46 <pilotg[m]> i kinda liked it in here, helpful people, no degens shilling their scamcoins, but then kindergarden broke loose during the night apparently 🤣  no hate just sharing my outside eyeview 
07:17:26 <rottenwheel> <pilotg[m]> "i kinda liked it in here, helpfu" <- Nothing wrong with a bit of drama and banter. It's crypto at the end of the day. 
07:17:46 <rottenwheel> The error of some communities and projects is becoming too serious.
08:06:07 <ErCiccione> I confirm that if rottenwheel  will be a moderator of a community meeting (or any other meeting), i won't be participating to the meeting and will actively boycott it.
08:08:33 <ErCiccione> For people who fall for his fake neutrality on this channel and haven't experienced his double face: He is a racist, homophobic, rude and overall horrible person that should never be in any position of influence in the community.
08:23:02 <Lovera[m]> Me too!
08:23:52 <Lovera[m]> In the Spanish Community Rotten say that if he will moderator/Admin he will ban people like me
08:28:28 <Lovera[m]> This boy has repeatedly said that he has people like needmoney on his side and that one day he will be Admin in several Monero groups, and then he will ban Raas (current admin of the Monero group in Spanish) to Me and many other people who has told her truths to her face like racist
08:45:46 <ErCiccione> yeah and anyone who is ignoring the issue to avoid drama is actively part of the problem (and that's the majority, sadly. Even people who had to deal with his bullshit personally).  FFS the guy regularly posts on twitter speaches from paramilitary nazi organizations, racist and anti-vax content, but people still give him the benefit of the doubt. Stop enabling him.
08:49:16 <sudo_ki[m]> Link?
08:50:09 <carrington[m]> <Keiji[m]> "https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero..." <- This post is still awaiting mod approval, so most people cannot see it
08:52:47 <ErCiccione> sudo_ki: i'm sending by PM. The guy gets enough free visibility
08:53:07 <geonic> I’m not sure what the people who continue to engage with him are hoping to accomplish at this point. Maybe the “Monero is for criminals” headlines are not enough? Let’s try actively encouraging racists & homophobes for good measure.
08:53:46 <ErCiccione> carrington[m]: dEBRUYNE: the problem is still there ^
08:56:22 <ErCiccione> geonic: that's what disappoints me the most. The same people who got insulted by him, the day after make jokes with him and encourage him. It's sad and pathetic.
08:57:51 <ErCiccione> <carrington[m]> "This post is still awaiting mod..." <- I've been pinging reddit mods about this for months and recently i got even told that the problem doesn't exists. You can only try to ping them until somebody unlocks the post
08:59:24 <geonic> Maybe they think they can stay on his “good side” this way? It is pathetic.
09:02:50 <carrington[m]> Anyways, I have added a comment to the reddit post which will hopefully be helpful to people with the links to the CCS proposals
09:03:12 <carrington[m]> Seth please approve the community meeting reddit post
09:07:27 <ErCiccione> carrington: if too long has passed since you did the post, i suggest to delete it, create a new one and ask the mods to unlock that one. Or better, wait for a reddit mod to be online so they can unlock it straight away. That's how i did in past
09:38:51 <rottenwheel> <carrington[m]> "This post is still awaiting mod..." <- Really? I could've sworn I even upvoated it earlier. 
09:39:51 * rottenwheel uploaded an image: (112KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/halogen.city/6fe62827d98bc4f25fa329a32a947c0e9662ad56/Screenshot_20210821-043923953.jpg >
09:40:18 <rottenwheel> 7 upvotes and 2 comments. Seems to be approved and up in the subreddit for me.
09:41:08 <rottenwheel> Keiji little suggestion. You can just add an item to the agenda that reads like this, for example:
09:41:19 <rottenwheel> c) CCS proposals
09:41:30 <carrington[m]> Huh shows as approved to me now
09:41:40 <rottenwheel> And when you hit that item, you just pull up the CCS site section under ideas and start copying and pasting titles.
09:41:55 <rottenwheel> That way you don't clutter the agenda with each CCS idea. Just my two cents.
09:42:27 <rottenwheel> Once you copy and paste x title, we can begin discussing such CCS proposal.
10:54:26 <carrington[m]> Direct link doesn't show the "awaiting mod approval" banner but I can't see the post on the subreddit front page. Definitely seems to be some issues with getting stuff onto the Monero reddit
11:37:56 <rottenwheel> <carrington[m]> "Direct link doesn't show the "aw" <- Hmm. 
14:15:20 <Halver[m]> I also don't see the post about the meeting in r/Monero
14:15:20 <Halver[m]> _This post is currently awaiting approval by the moderators of r/Monero before it can appear in the subreddit._
14:56:39 <carrington[m]> So is this a technical issue with the Monero subreddit or is it simply a matter of unresponsive mods? And reddit mods here who can give some insight?
16:13:07 <msvb> Meeting in about one hour right?
16:18:43 <Keiji[m]> <msvb> "Meeting in about one hour right?" <- Yep! (･ิω･ิ)
16:19:26 <Keiji[m]> I wish reddit mods could put certain people on 'allowlist' that ignores karma and account age checks
17:00:32 <Keiji[m]> Welcome to August's Community Meeting!
17:00:36 <Keiji[m]> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/599
17:00:55 <Keiji[m]> - Greetings
17:02:06 <msvb-lab> Hello.
17:02:26 <SerHack> Hi
17:02:34 <anhdres[m]> Hi
17:02:38 <ajs_[m]> hi
17:03:55 <Keiji[m]> - Community highlights
17:04:36 <Keiji[m]> Does anyone have anything to highlight now that Revuo is no longer printed?
17:05:25 <crypto_grampy[m]> Hi
17:07:06 <Keiji[m]> It sounds like maybe not. Let's move to CCS discussion then
17:07:25 <sgp_[m]> Hello
17:07:32 <Keiji[m]> - " ajs would like to adjust terms of xmr radio CCS after taking it over"
17:07:51 <Keiji[m]> ajs, please discuss what you would like to change
17:08:02 <ajs_[m]> hi
17:08:12 <ajs_[m]> so for a quick status update on XMR.radio
17:08:22 <ajs_[m]> $4,524.98 was released from the Monero.FM CCS to pay for start up costs for 1 year and buy MP3s
17:08:29 <ajs_[m]> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/monerofm.html
17:08:36 <ajs_[m]> Here is the up to date income statement itemizing all expenses 
17:08:43 <ajs_[m]> https://drive.protonmail.com/urls/STR8JBC8EM#40ljgcpHovdC
17:09:00 <ajs_[m]> Current cash on hand balance is $2,179.49
17:09:20 <ajs_[m]> We’ve made $67.92 in sales and received $98.72 in donations
17:09:27 <ajs_[m]> https://drive.protonmail.com/urls/RG3JYB48DM#eWFEDpsgfQN2
17:09:44 <ajs_[m]> ATH of 58 listeners was reached during the Defcon broadcast and numbers have declined since then to around 10-20 daily listeners
17:09:57 <sgp_[m]> Haha "land line"
17:10:02 <ajs_[m]> https://drive.protonmail.com/urls/XWVX7KVYGM#2c38ta7ikc4e
17:10:17 <ajs_[m]> we are old school
17:10:21 <Halver[m]> Hi
17:10:29 <ajs_[m]> Call us: +1 (702) 899-6040
17:10:38 <ajs_[m]> A well-known VPN service has reached out to us about advertising on the station. However, they asked us to get back to them once we have over 100 daily listeners. 
17:10:48 <ajs_[m]> And a few artists listed their albums for sale in XMR.radio store
17:11:00 <anhdres[m]> It was sad for me to find out I cannot listen to the radio without using a VPN. I hope we can solve that licensing issue in the future. Monero and its community is truly international.
17:11:07 <ajs_[m]> https://xmr.radio/collections/all/music
17:11:24 <msvb-lab> We can call the land line? That's great.
17:11:37 <msvb-lab> Who answers if I call it?
17:12:05 <ajs_[m]> anhdres: unfortunately, licensing is done country by country
17:12:36 <ajs_[m]> station is currently licensed for US, Canada, and UK 
17:13:05 <ajs_[m]> station is also broadcasting via Tor
17:13:22 <ajs_[m]> http://kxmrdbwcqbgyokjbiv7droplwhxvli3s7yv5xddxgrtajdpdebgzzzqd.onion
17:13:52 <ajs_[m]> on the adjustment issue, you can find details here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/p3mtnn/ccs_change_of_scope_xmrradio_monero_community_run/ 
17:15:11 <ajs_[m]> However, seeing the numbers have fizzled out last few weeks, I am not sure it is a good idea to establish an LLC
17:16:03 <crypto_grampy[m]> I didn't even know xmr.radio was a thing.  Would be great to figure out some ways to spread the word.  Will definitely be tuning in now
17:16:54 <ajs_[m]> costs are covered for the 1st year and we can run this thing a few more months before deciding to go the LLC route 
17:17:59 <sgp_[m]> I've been happy with that I've seen so far on the radio station
17:18:10 <sgp_[m]> It will be cool to see what comes of it in the future
17:19:19 <anhdres[m]> Maybe a text to speech thing calling out the block height every   hour or so
17:19:23 <ajs_[m]> msvb-lab: it does to voice mail
17:19:35 <anhdres[m]> Or any other stats from time to time
17:19:35 <ajs_[m]> *goes
17:19:47 <crypto_grampy[m]> Is there anything regular mortals can do to help get more listenership?
17:20:10 <ajs_[m]> anhdres: like a numbers station
17:20:14 <crypto_grampy[m]> I can try and get it added to the 4chan biz general 🙃
17:20:27 <crypto_grampy[m]> * I can try and get it added to the 4chan biz /xmr/ general 🙃
17:20:49 <anhdres[m]> ajs_[m]: Exactly. The more it sounds like one the best haha
17:20:58 <anhdres[m]> 90s internet vibes for sure
17:21:44 <ajs_[m]> crypto_grampy: that would be great
17:22:04 <anhdres[m]> We can also try to cut snippets of monero interviews or talks to put in between x amount of songs, like sentences from Daniel Kim's talks for example 
17:22:05 <ajs_[m]> we are looking for DJ and Podcasters to fill in slots
17:22:23 <ajs_[m]> so you any, point them our way
17:22:36 <ajs_[m]> *know
17:23:07 <ajs_[m]> so we can table LLC issue until things pick up
17:24:59 <m2049r[m]> ajs_: what terms exactly do you want to adjust?
17:26:29 <ajs_[m]> m2049r: to use left over funds from CCS to incorporate an LLC
17:26:47 <ajs_[m]> and pay for some marketing
17:27:42 <Keiji[m]> So ok to discuss Monerujo SideKick CCS now?
17:27:55 <ajs_[m]> okay
17:28:53 <Keiji[m]> OK, since LLC issue is tabled, let's move to discussion on https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/247
17:29:16 <Keiji[m]> It is currently in Ideas Phase
17:30:15 <Keiji[m]> m2049r: Any things you want feedback on in particular?
17:30:51 <m2049r[m]> not really - i would be glad to answer any questions though
17:31:03 <crypto_grampy[m]> I saw several people mention doing qr's over bluetooth.  Is there any reason why Bluetooth is prioritized?
17:31:41 <crypto_grampy[m]> I see that both are in the ccs
17:31:57 <m2049r[m]> because it's easy - and qr codes is a usability nightmare! i have been working on audio comms for the past week ( sounds like a fax machine)
17:32:29 <m2049r[m]> and normal people can make a simple audio coupler with two headphones
17:32:55 <m2049r[m]> unfortunately, usb comms is impossible with android
17:33:18 <crypto_grampy[m]> I personally feel like I want an airgapped device to be quite airgapped 
17:33:35 <crypto_grampy[m]> No wires, no signals, but that's just me perhaps
17:33:47 <msvb-lab> We used Monerujo NFC in the village at Defcon, which seems to work great and replaces QRs viewable by surveillance.
17:34:12 <m2049r[m]> yes, i will be looking into nfc as well
17:34:29 <msvb-lab> But the encoding is not directly compatible with General Bytes ATM machine NFC encodings (for our badges.)
17:34:30 <geonic> luigi mentioned the hourly rate. maybe we can touch on that? “This proposal has a lot of support, and I'm willing to merge as is. However, I would like some feedback on the hourly ask as it seems outside the norm.”
17:34:55 <m2049r[m]> too high or too low?
17:35:28 <anhdres[m]> I'm sure he ment too low
17:35:39 <anhdres[m]> RIGHT?
17:35:59 <msvb-lab> Nice try.
17:36:02 <anhdres[m]> Sorry I cannot help me, back to serious meeting
17:36:36 <geonic> $127/hr for the PoC work does seem a bit on the high end
17:36:48 <m2049r[m]> i think we are happy to adjust rates as the community sees fit
17:37:40 <crypto_grampy[m]> <m2049r[m]> "and normal people can make a sim" <- I would say more people have functioning Bluetooth over functioning cameras, or phones with audio jacks or NFC chips as well.  Just to add 🤗
17:37:49 <m2049r[m]> geonic: now, yes. who knows whats in 3 months
17:38:09 <m2049r[m]> crypto_grampy: yep.
17:39:25 <geonic> I wonder what happened to the idea of guaranteeing rates through the GF and having any excess go to it as well as shortfalls covered by it
17:41:41 <Keiji[m]> Any other questions people would like answered?
17:41:41 <geonic> btw, does anything like this exist for Bitcoin atm?
17:43:00 <ajs_[m]> geonic: for the station at least, to avoid this issue, I converted XMR to USDC right away
17:43:19 <m2049r[m]> there are some solutions, but they can't be compared since in btc you can build an entire transaction without access to keys
17:43:19 <sgp_[m]> geonic: One way to guarantee rates is by converting the raise to a stable asset
17:43:26 <sgp_[m]> MAGIC does this
17:44:20 <geonic> did ajs go through MAGIC?
17:44:34 <ajs_[m]> no
17:45:02 <geonic> so how does this work? Payout needs to be made in advance of the work performed?
17:45:11 <ajs_[m]> i converted on my own account
17:45:35 <geonic> fwiw i’d be OK with this option for monerujo’s proposal
17:46:16 <geonic> if that helps with volatility concerns
17:46:38 <ajs_[m]> and with capital gains tax
17:48:19 <geonic> m2049r: maybe state the actual rates you would like to receive and make it payable upon funding?
17:50:05 <m2049r[m]> make it payable upon funding?
17:50:37 <geonic> yes. rather than waiting 3 months and absorbing the volatility
17:52:07 <m2049r[m]> ah - we were going for 100 eur/h for dev & 60 eur/h for design stuff
17:52:22 <Keiji[m]> There are about 8 minutes left. I would like to be fair to the Workgroups and give them a chance to announce updates, and then we can come back to sidekick discussion
17:52:58 <Keiji[m]> - Daemon/CLI workgroup, any updates you'd like to share?
17:54:04 <xmrscott[m]> - Localization workgroup, any updates you'd like to share?
17:54:22 <xmrscott[m]> (Just trying to speed things along, sorry)
17:54:41 <xmrscott[m]> Since we have a Village meeting right after
17:55:00 <msvb-lab> m2049r[m]: Do you want one or not? Look in your dms.
17:55:36 <Keiji[m]> Sorry! In that case, are there any Workgroups who'd like to share anything at all?
17:58:27 <Keiji[m]> Is it OK to go back to sidekick discussion since there's no Workgroup summaries? Any other questions?
18:00:50 <Keiji[m]> Ok, sounds like maybe not. Again, sorry for long meeting. 😥 Do people want Community meeting in another 2 weeks or another 4 weeks?
18:02:02 <m2049r[m]> is there anything still open on the sidekick ccs?
18:03:59 <crypto_grampy[m]> Is the implementation going to be easily addable for other wallets to interact with?
18:04:09 <m2049r[m]> yes,
18:04:23 <crypto_grampy[m]> Like a standalone library?
18:04:35 <m2049r[m]> they only need to implement the transport (bluetooth or whatever)
18:04:48 <m2049r[m]> its completely compatible with the current ledger impleemtation)
18:05:21 <m2049r[m]> its in the monero codenase (if the monero devs choose to take it - otherwise its in our monero fork)
18:05:45 <m2049r[m]> *codebase
18:06:19 <m2049r[m]> so you could have ghe official gui use it. or cake. or whatever
18:06:30 <crypto_grampy[m]> Awesome
18:06:39 <m2049r[m]> :)
18:08:03 <wfaressuissia> poc code is open or not yet ?
18:08:38 <m2049r[m]> not yet.
18:08:55 <m2049r[m]> still dirty, but can share if you want to see it
18:09:43 <m2049r[m]> i have to go now. thanks to all & esp. to Keiji for moderation
18:10:11 <crypto_grampy[m]> Is there going to be any sort of audit for this code?
18:10:23 <Keiji[m]> Again, sorry for the slow and long meeting. I will try to do better next time orz
18:10:36 <m2049r[m]> crypto_grampy: we want to have a serious audit for this as a separate ccs when its done.
18:10:42 <ajs_[m]> also XMR.radio is streaming 'Slowed Motion' screwed and chopped  hip-hop mix at @ 2PM PDT (21 UTC) today straight out out dirty dirty south
18:11:01 <ajs_[m]> and Hydrogen Lab #2 Live DJ Set with RYIT  at 7PM PDT (02:00 UTC) spinning Psytrance
18:11:20 <msvb-lab> Is it my current area that makes the xmr.radio play button greyed out?
18:11:45 <ajs_[m]> msvb-lab: try VPN or Tor
18:12:24 <ajs_[m]> http://kxmrdbwcqbgyokjbiv7droplwhxvli3s7yv5xddxgrtajdpdebgzzzqd.onion
18:17:01 <Keiji[m]> I think the meeting is officially over since there are no comments for 5 minutes. Thanks everyone for your patience this week and attending
18:21:46 <msvb-lab> Okay ajs_[m], I didn't need to do that in the version (without very nice graphics) before Defcon. But maybe the system changed since then.
18:23:33 <ajs_[m]> yeah, geoblocking is enabled now
18:38:10 <geonic> tx Keiji for moderating. I think 4 weeks is a good cadence 
18:41:22 <Keiji[m]> Thanks for your feedback on next meeting time! (^^♪
18:44:30 <plowsof[m]> <geonic> "btw, does anything like this..." <- Here's one for ETH that uses QR codes https://github.com/r001/airsign
18:58:37 <plowsof[m]> Has the issue of 'competitive advantage' been discussed? Will sidekick be easily integrate-able into other wallets? will monerujo enjoy a period of exclusivity?  
19:19:12 <m2049r[m]> plowsof: no exclusivity. open source as always. can be integrated into other wallets as long as the transport (bluetooth, audio, whatever) is implemented on their end.
19:21:19 <wfaressuissia> "... but can share if you want to see it" yes and another question: can you decomposite this app into components ? what is the hardest part ?
19:25:49 <Halver[m]> Thanks @Keiji for the moderation
19:27:58 <rottenwheel> <Keiji[m]> "Does anyone have anything to hig" <- I will eventually take Revuo on; just not yet. FYI.
19:32:11 <rottenwheel> <m2049r[m]> "because it's easy - and qr codes" <- Why? Lol. I have at least 3 hww that do PSBT w/ bitcoin. It's two simple scans, one from your mobile wallet, another from your HWW. Nonsense.
19:32:33 <rottenwheel> Might be a usability nightmare because of how heavey XMR txs. are, that I may accept, but QR codes are far from being a usability nightmare.
19:32:48 <rottenwheel> <crypto_grampy[m]> "I personally feel like I want an" <- Yes; this.
19:41:40 <plowsof[m]> I want an android QR hardware wallet on my desk by Monday
19:45:45 <plowsof[m]> unsigned_tx -> binary string data -> QR code -> scanned by android -> signed_tx -> converted to a QR code -> scanned and submitted by the wallet 
19:45:59 <plowsof[m]> The Monero CEO and board members want results!
19:50:15 <rottenwheel> <plowsof[m]> "I want an android QR hardware wa" <- Geonic, your alt is showing.
22:08:03 <esk6v[m]> Hello,
22:08:03 <esk6v[m]> Looking for a wallet.keys file that had funds in the 2017-2018 time range to run some experiments re: the newly disclosed selection algo bug (attempting to reproduce j-berman's method https://github.com/j-berman/monero/pull/2). Obviously it can & should be empty now but if anyone has an old wallet that was active then, I'd appreciate it.
22:08:03 <esk6v[m]> Not trying to claim your Monero V / Classic, if that's a concern just claim it first.
22:08:03 <esk6v[m]> If anyone can donate one. I'd appreciate it!
22:11:23 <plowsof[m]> Will the general fund wallet be suitable for your needs (view only)
22:13:03 <esk6v[m]> plowsof[m]: No, for the purpose of recreating the methodology I'd need a wallet that had on-chain funds at that time and can generate test txs when I roll back the blockchain to that height