09:48:35 <rottenstonks> Keiji[m] might want to schedule another meeting within the next week or three. carrington[m]
10:01:57 <rottenstonks> - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60075146/united-states-v-spagni/
10:01:57 <rottenstonks> - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126.20.0.pdf
10:42:55 <plowsof[m]> reg. 'my thread is x days old and hasn't been approved' - i think there should be a paid position for one of our Reddit mods to dedicate maybe 3 hours per week? less? more? (mon/wed/fri) to simply sitting in front of a screen and approving threads. They would have 'office hours' so that you know if you post a thread they will be online / pick up their phone to check. Thoughts? 
10:47:03 <Rucknium[m]> Tangentially, shouldn't u/fluffyponyza be suspended from the r/Monero moderation team at least while he is in custody?
11:56:52 <midipoet> plowsof[m]: why would that position have to be paid? There are only a few people who have the permissions to authorise posts/proposals, and the reason they have those permissions (one assumes) is because they are entrusted by the community act in its best interests, regardless of monetary incentive. Though, maybe I am incorrect on this. 
12:00:10 <Rucknium[m]> A more fundamental question: Why is r/Monero moderated so heavily that mods have to regularly manually approve posts? r/btc has a relaxed moderation policy and it seems to do just fine (except maybe too many anti-BTC Twitter posts).
12:10:55 <Inspiral> Rucknium[m]: Because of things like https://monero-badcaca.net - haha
12:16:09 <Rucknium[m]> Does the downvote button not work on r/Monero? That's how r/BTC handles it.
12:16:52 <Rucknium[m]> Or people just engage (fruitlessly) with BTC supporters.
12:20:59 <plowsof[m]> midipoet: I agree with you! that's how it should work. But maybe those same few people are in different circumstances in life now where they have less time (be it a new job / family) - what are the options? add new mods? take into consideration the new 'moons' on r/cc where there is a financial incentive to be in 'good standing' with the community, new 'talent' would be there right?. Sure, anyone of us could be a mod .. and make
12:20:59 <plowsof[m]> sure threads are posted on time.. but we're human.. why spend an hour of your life for free simply clicking 'approve' on a thread, or rushing to your phone to get someones thread posted when you could be delivering pizzas for $ 
12:28:29 <plowsof[m]> 1 hour a week paid slave labour? 😄
12:38:28 <plowsof[m]> Inspiral: is that 'badcaca' website someone with a remote node logging any ip who connects to it? 
12:39:19 <plowsof[m]> or an advanced 'misbehaving' node? 
12:44:58 <midipoet> does anybody have a solution to this issue? 
12:45:00 <midipoet> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/248#note_11374
12:45:27 <midipoet> i don't, but see how it could be frustrating for the poster
13:02:36 <carrington[m]> <midipoet> "does anybody have a solution..." <- Is Monero.social on matrix not allowing Tor connections? That seems like an oversight
13:32:00 <carrington[m]> There are several CCS proposal ideas which probably need discussing... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/1c6b1519094723148cd22fe731be5b461918f87b)
13:32:47 <carrington[m]> In particular, there is this proposal from 2019(!) By Rehrar for 36C3 supplies
13:32:47 <carrington[m]> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/36c3.html
13:33:44 <carrington[m]> The proposal was funded nearly two years ago at the then price of €50 per XMR with a huge sum of 560 XMR
13:35:02 <Rucknium[m]> Is it correct to say that Core has custody of those funds but they are segregated from the "general fund"?
13:40:20 <plowsof[m]> Yes, donations to the ccs head to a different wallet 
13:40:45 <carrington[m]> I believe that is generally the case. But this specific proposal is for the 2019 conference which definitely happened in the past and had a Monero presence
13:41:36 <carrington[m]> So the state of this large amount of funds seems a bit mysterious
13:45:25 <plowsof[m]> if it indeed was not 'paid out', im of the understanding that they would have returned it back to the GF (see the 'accept monero at tesla proposal') 
13:49:14 <geonic> there’s also this. https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/88459/globee-s-secret-project-fundraiser
13:49:36 <geonic> 4000 paid out of 4865 raised
13:49:58 <ajs_[m]> I believe 36C3 CCS was paid out
13:54:30 <ajs_[m]> For https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/monerofm.html
13:55:18 <ajs_[m]> The remaining balance can be transfered to general dev fund
13:57:04 <carrington[m]> ajs_[m]: I thought the proposal was that this would be used to fund xmr.radio? 
13:58:03 <ajs_[m]> 1 year operating costs has already been paid
14:00:11 <ajs_[m]> And I changed my mind about setting up an LLC because it would create unnecessary expenses and as it is, I don't see the station becoming profitable any time soon.
14:01:47 <carrington[m]> It would make sense to store a comment explaining all these point here ~>
14:01:47 <carrington[m]>  https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/165
14:02:39 <ajs_[m]> Will do
14:03:39 <carrington[m]> <plowsof[m]> "if it indeed was not 'paid out',..." <- It would be good to get confirmation of this as it is not an insubstantial amount
14:10:33 <nioc> over the years many things did not get tracked properly 
14:11:28 <nioc> or rather not get displayed properly
16:33:30 <dEBRUYNE> plowsof[m]: I already voluntarily go over basically every thread manually
16:33:43 <dEBRUYNE> I forwarded the post of the user to the mod channel, because I wasn't sure whether it should be approved
16:34:27 <dEBRUYNE> Rucknium[m]> A more fundamental question: Why is r/Monero moderated so heavily that mods have to regularly manually approve posts? <= We have/had lots of spam that requires somewhat more stringent moderation
16:34:41 <dEBRUYNE> Also we have dedicated subs for mining, trading, and support, which requires moderation insofar as threads need to be diverted to different subs
16:34:44 <xmrscott[m]> <Rucknium[m]> "A more fundamental question: Why..." <- Literally spam. The same person who attacked the Monero network last fall/winter makes a living off a dev fee doing nothing so basically their full time job is harassing any and all elements of the infrastructure, reddit included
16:35:09 <xmrscott[m]> * infrastructure, reddit and GitHub issues included
16:35:30 <xmrscott[m]> * dev fee on a scamcoin doing nothing, * infrastructure, reddit and GitHub issues included
16:35:56 <xmrscott[m]> Doh, Nina'd
16:36:02 <xmrscott[m]>  * Doh, Ninja'd
16:36:15 <dEBRUYNE> <midipoet> does anybody have a solution to this issue? <= I can post his proposal I guess
18:22:17 <PoolboyChad[m]> Does anyone know if xmr.radio telegram is bridged to matrix? cc ajs_ 
18:34:05 <ajs_[m]> No, it's not
18:45:37 <ChadlePosh[m]> I keep wanting to ask xmr.radio questions, but don't have TG and don't want to spam this channel, lol. Maybe one day I'll setup a burner for TG
18:47:08 <ajs_[m]> There is also a discord
19:12:30 <DiegoSalazar[m]> <ajs_[m]> "I believe 36C3 CCS was paid out" <- Only the first half was. The second was not. I have tried continuously to get parasew and RIAT to claim it, but to no avail. 
19:13:41 <DiegoSalazar[m]> <plowsof[m]> "if it indeed was not 'paid out',..." <- You are overestimating the speed at which some things move.
19:29:25 <selsta> DiegoSalazar[m]: did they pay out of their pocket?
19:57:12 <anarkiocrypto[m]> > I keep wanting to ask xmr.radio questions, but don't have TG and don't want to spam this channel, lol. Maybe one day I'll setup a burner for TG
19:57:12 <anarkiocrypto[m]> Try Anbox or Android-x86 VM with a virtual number from SMSPVA or TextVerified. You just need to register on the (emulated) Android app, which can give you a login code for the desktop or CLI version. After this, you can use the desktop/CLI version to receive login codes for the Telegram web version (or continue using the desktop version).
20:13:06 <Rucknium[m]> > <@anarkiocrypto:halogen.city> > I keep wanting to ask xmr.radio questions, but don't have TG and don't want to spam this channel, lol. Maybe one day I'll setup a burner for TG
20:13:06 <Rucknium[m]> > 
20:13:06 <Rucknium[m]> > Try Anbox or Android-x86 VM with a virtual number from SMSPVA or TextVerified. You just need to register on the (emulated) Android app, which can give you a login code for the desktop or CLI version. After this, you can use the desktop/CLI version to receive login codes for the Telegram web version (or continue using the desktop version).
20:13:06 <Rucknium[m]> I can confirm that this works to set up a Telegram account, but it's a hassle. Also, do not delete the VM since you will need it again for verification to login from other devices.
20:13:46 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Selsta: yes
20:21:56 <binaryFate> What exactly does it mean for RIAT to claim 2nd half, in practice? I suspect they are just busy with other stuff, maybe we can facilitate the admin required
20:52:10 <DiegoSalazar[m]> <binaryFate> "What exactly does it mean for..." <- It's not this simple. They were supposed to submit a sheet of thenfull expenses, and as I understand, RIAT has experienced some personnel changes. 
20:53:03 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Although I don't recall if the CCS mandated the sheet, he kept saying he would make and submit it. If it doesn't we can reach out to them, though I have done this at least a half dozen times while I worked for core. 
21:17:25 <binaryFate> ok, I could get in touch if it's urgent but I don't think it is. So I'd leave that pending until RL meetings with RIAT folks are possible again (hopefully CCC end of year)