03:03:49 <kinghat[m]> https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7e9y3/activists-are-designing-mesh-networks-to-deploy-during-civil-unrest
12:36:29 <sethsimmons> 4 new CCS proposals are open for funding!
12:36:29 <sethsimmons> - My breakdown/recommendations: https://nitter.sethforprivacy.com/sethforprivacy/status/1448986733635383298#m
12:36:29 <sethsimmons> - Proposals: https://ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required/
12:47:53 <fewunderstand> that's cheating sethsimmons 
12:47:57 <fewunderstand> you recommend everything
12:48:26 <sethsimmons> 👿
12:48:36 <sethsimmons>  * 😉
12:48:43 <fewunderstand> :)
13:56:22 <TimeWalker[m]> Okay, so, I've been so out of the loop with this but
13:56:48 <TimeWalker[m]> From where did the boat accident meme come up? 😅
13:57:13 <theloniouswalfre> hello, fellow bart 
14:09:13 <rbrunner> Can't document it right now, but I think it was Fluffypony
14:09:34 <fluffypony> yeah - on Bitcoin Uncensored
14:09:53 <fluffypony> but it's been a meme from before I applied it to crypto - I think goldbugs used something similar back in the day
14:10:16 <chad[m]1> Tis the best financial meme
14:10:51 <rbrunner> It just went a little, well, overboard, lately, especially on r/cc
14:13:25 <rbrunner> This here from 2008 is about loosing one's guns in a boating accident: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/the-tragic-boating-accident.459711/
14:38:51 <TimeWalker[m]> Ahhh, thanks all!
14:51:41 <crypt0_bear[m]> gold bugs, gun fans and then crypto fans 
17:01:45 <selsta> fluffypony: I even see the meme  on local non crypto subreddits lol
17:53:07 <Save_G[m]> Good day Sir!
17:53:07 <Save_G[m]> anyone know what stuff will be implemented in the next hard fork and when this is going to be or do they want to wait until one of those triptiych, lelantus spark or Saheris protocols are finished for Monero for that?
17:54:39 <Save_G[m]> I heard that bulletproofs + and some variable blocksize adjustment from Articmine will be implemented but is there a page on where to read up on stuff like that for the next hardfork? 
18:06:57 <BusyBoredom[m]> I don't know of any official up-to-date page, but what you heard is correct. The upcoming fork (sometime this year, it sounds like) is all incremental improvements. The big protocol upgrade will likely not be in the next fork. 
18:10:47 <Save_G[m]> how does the network decide on when its time for the next hardfork?
18:12:12 <selsta> we bring out an update that forks on a specific block
18:13:22 <Save_G[m]> but how does the consensus work that the network wants the update or not
18:13:32 <Save_G[m]> or the devs
18:14:58 <Rucknium[m]> People can choose to run nodes or mine on the old fork, as with every blockchain that I am aware of. In practice, that doesn't happen with Monero.
18:15:19 <selsta> it has been attempted before in monero but the fork died off quickly
18:15:29 <selsta> monero original, monero0, monerov, ...
18:16:39 <Save_G[m]> like in bitcoin miners give a signal if they want the fork or not in each block mined
18:16:39 <Save_G[m]> is there a similar mechanism in Monero?
18:17:16 <selsta> monero miners decide by upgrading the client or keep using the old client
18:17:34 <mechanic41turk[m> Save_G[m]: you participate in the online discussions regarding the nature of the improvement. you voice your opinion as part of the monero community. mainly , you DO want to update or hard fork into what's proposed because the proposed hard forks up to now have always improved monero. further, you can see other devs who are much more knowledgeable than you may also back the hard fork.
18:20:07 <Rucknium[m]> > <@save_g:monero.social> like in bitcoin miners give a signal if they want the fork or not in each block mined
18:20:07 <Rucknium[m]> > is there a similar mechanism in Monero?
18:20:07 <Rucknium[m]> Bitcoin has not had a hardfork since...well...before 2017 at least (anyone know the exact year?). Taproot and SegWit are soft forks..
18:21:36 <Save_G[m]> Bitcoin willingly removed features that improved privacy in a minor way so for taproot so I don't see much more hope for it
18:22:14 <Save_G[m]> s/so//
18:25:53 <midnightmage[m]> Bitcoin guys don’t care about privacy they got the “value”
18:27:27 <Save_G[m]> at least they go the pseudo anonymity for people that are really hardcore on opsec but for the normies it's very dangerous 
18:30:00 <mechanic41turk[m> midnightmage[m]: garlic routed anon receipt payments on lightning second layer via non-custodial bridges are coming soon bro
18:30:53 <midnightmage[m]> They always saying, “Soon” but doubt they ever get a consensus
18:31:06 <mechanic41turk[m> mine was being sarcastic
18:31:21 <mechanic41turk[m> it's all a cope currently on their side
18:31:36 <midnightmage[m]> Lol
18:32:52 <midnightmage[m]> What you guys think, new ATH by Monday?
18:33:00 <mechanic41turk[m> yes
18:34:07 <midnightmage[m]> Yeah me too, dump into stable, wait for correction buy again and repeat
18:34:34 <mechanic41turk[m> 63k is this month's "stable"
18:34:39 <mechanic41turk[m> according to s2f
18:34:57 <mechanic41turk[m> or plan b
19:41:12 <spirobel[m]> <midnightmage[m]> "Bitcoin guys don’t care about..." <- I think hodler culture in general is toxic. All the talk about financial freedom becomes moot and turns into "i got mine" what about you? see the same thing in monero with these boating accident jokes. really unwelcoming for newbies and poor people. not nice.
19:48:22 <BusyBoredom[m]> I agree spirobel, I think it's part of a big cultural shift in the crypto world over the past ~5 years. I remember being excited about the technology and uses of crypto back in highschool, but all the focus lately is on how much USD your hoard is worth. 
19:51:01 <BusyBoredom[m]> It's become investment first, currency second. 
20:24:27 <crypto_grampy[m]> <BusyBoredom[m]> "It's become investment first..." <- Well, you see, there's this big money printer.... 
20:24:40 <crypto_grampy[m]> And... No one can turn it off
20:37:59 <kibble[m]> The investment craze is definitely toxic. People are wary of crypto because of the emphasis on finance. Most of the examples of crypto usage that I see are games/fluff. They look like casinos. Coincidentally, I wrote a post yesterday about all the things I wish I could tell people about crypto (more generically, blockchain) https://www.dyingtowrite.com/posts/2021/33_crypto-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/
21:12:41 <crypto_grampy[m]> Holy shit, CCS FUNDING POOMPA.  Nice job all!
21:16:16 <selsta> oh w0w