01:43:04 <epemullen[m]> Hello guys i’m new to monero, i need to learn some.. and ready to listen 👍🏻
01:44:11 <setvin[m]> a good place to start is by mining monero
01:44:16 <setvin[m]> if you're just want to get into a hobby
01:45:14 <epemullen[m]> Alright will do sir, currently downloading the gui wallet 24h and counting on syncing the blockchain
01:45:37 <epemullen[m]> Using very std comouter, but I’m excited
01:45:43 <epemullen[m]> Thanks sir setvin
01:46:15 <epemullen[m]> s/comouter/laptop/
01:51:14 <setvin[m]> I think feather might be a faster synch right?
01:51:22 <setvin[m]> old laptop?
01:51:25 <epemullen[m]> Yes 🤦‍♂️
01:51:26 <setvin[m]> do you know what the model is?
01:51:35 <setvin[m]> windows 10?
01:51:47 <epemullen[m]> The model is macbook air
01:51:55 <setvin[m]> does p2pool have a channel here
01:52:00 <setvin[m]> oohhh I've never used a mac
01:52:17 <setvin[m]> we might need to get you to a specific channel
01:52:31 <setvin[m]> I can just link you the XMRrig mining software
01:52:43 <epemullen[m]> It is recommended to solo mine ? Is it really better choice to start as a hobby
01:53:04 <epemullen[m]> Using the gui or cli wallet
01:53:46 <setvin[m]> gui is fine
01:53:54 <epemullen[m]> Oh and using portable wallet, installed on external hdd
01:53:56 <setvin[m]> feather lis like a new kind of wallet which is similar to gui
01:53:58 <setvin[m]> but more "light"
01:54:13 <setvin[m]> i think its good to try out each one see which one you prefer
01:54:23 <setvin[m]> if you have a hardware wallet probably feather or gui
01:54:32 <setvin[m]> gui is the 'best' but the most slow
01:54:41 <setvin[m]> cli is good but not for people like me
01:54:43 <setvin[m]> https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig
01:54:44 <epemullen[m]> True, but i really wants to know and see the advanced mode can offer then i choose the gui lol
01:54:49 <setvin[m]> I suggest pool mining with p2pool
01:55:10 <setvin[m]> its like a unique mining way
01:55:14 <setvin[m]> let me find the link hold on
01:55:36 <epemullen[m]> Thanks sir, ok
01:55:42 <setvin[m]> there is an altcoin wownero that is new u can try to solo mine
01:55:44 <setvin[m]> it is solomine only
01:55:46 <setvin[m]> or just monero
01:56:08 <setvin[m]> i think this is it 
01:56:09 <setvin[m]> https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool
01:56:29 <epemullen[m]> Ohh i c, most slow ya.. cli looks cool though but I’m not an advanced user I won’t understand cli wallet easily
01:57:03 <setvin[m]> feather is good if you want something fast
01:57:07 <setvin[m]> you can use both
01:57:12 <epemullen[m]> setvin[m]: What is wownero is it like token in monero?
01:57:26 <setvin[m]> no its just a fork memecoin 
01:57:49 <epemullen[m]> I see
01:57:55 <setvin[m]> I tried to see how you can solomine actually it looks kind of complicated, im hoping they maybe will make it easier
01:58:02 <setvin[m]> I think its better to start with the p2pool
01:58:07 <setvin[m]> that will be the best pool
01:58:14 <setvin[m]> and the best use of your hardware
01:58:40 <setvin[m]> GUI wallet is very good, you can make it very organized.
01:59:14 <epemullen[m]> setvin[m]: Solo mining wownero or monero do you mean sir
02:00:16 <epemullen[m]> Yes, mining pool paids something, unlike solo maybe can take months to solve a block “it said
02:01:32 <setvin[m]> p2pool is like pool but solo
02:06:20 <epemullen[m]> Ehh interesting
02:06:59 <epemullen[m]> First to do is download XMrig software then on to the p2pool ?
02:09:28 <setvin[m]> xmr software is the tool which uses you cpu
02:09:34 <setvin[m]> the p2pool will be the pool tool
02:09:35 <setvin[m]> so yes
02:12:23 <epemullen[m]> I see, but can the wallet act as the tool that uses my cpu and acting as a pool tool as well. I’m curious lol
02:43:58 <setvin[m]> uh good question
02:44:39 <setvin[m]> there isnt a p2pool channel here, maybe someone will chime in soon and let us know where you should go for more detailed instructions
02:44:52 <setvin[m]> I think for now just do it the way on the tin
02:45:36 <nioc> there is #p2pool-log on irc
02:45:54 <nioc> I'm sure that you can join via matrix
04:36:19 <epemullen[m]> Alright sir
04:36:56 <setvin[m]> if you figure out how to join ircs via matrix let me know
04:39:05 <setvin[m]> lol
04:58:18 <quartz[m]> The IRC channel has to be bridged to a matrix channel
04:59:51 <nioc> there are people from matrix in that channel
04:59:55 <epemullen[m]> I found #p2pool about bitcointalk is that the one ?
05:00:10 <epemullen[m]> Using matrix-client.matrix.org ?
05:00:26 <nioc> I have no idea about matrix
05:00:50 <nioc> AFAIK there is no channel #p2pool 
05:01:21 <nioc> there is #monero-pow for development and #p2pool-log for talk and help
05:02:17 <nioc> most are asleep now
05:02:28 <nioc> as I will be in minutes 
05:05:02 <setvin[m]> damn look at the time
05:05:21 <setvin[m]> im sure someone will answer in the morning I think a lot of people here have strict schedules
05:05:27 <epemullen[m]> I can’t find #p2pool-log on channel.. i switched to matrix-client net and it shows me #p2pool then i joined lol
05:05:35 <setvin[m]> no its irc
05:05:41 <setvin[m]> somehow it links up, I dont know how
05:05:44 <epemullen[m]> Yes no problem
05:05:53 <setvin[m]> i want to know too haha
05:06:07 <epemullen[m]> Ahh i see.. and what is the hashtag for ?
05:06:08 <setvin[m]> probably have the answer by the morning or afternoon
05:06:17 <setvin[m]> in irc thats how they have the channels
05:06:21 <setvin[m]> all with hashtag
05:06:24 <epemullen[m]> So linked to that specific p2pool monero
05:06:32 <setvin[m]> i dont really know
05:06:44 <setvin[m]> maybe they use a seperate client and I misunderstood
05:07:12 <setvin[m]> I know they think its super simple but for boneheads like me its like learning a new OS
05:07:15 <epemullen[m]> Alright noted, meanwhile I’ll keep exploring then 😁
05:07:29 <setvin[m]> i think the reddit has a lot of info on p2pool
05:07:41 <setvin[m]> try just searching reddit for "p2pool" see what pops up
05:07:43 <epemullen[m]> Lol me too
05:07:47 <nioc> #p2pool exists but is not used
05:08:16 <epemullen[m]> Ahh i have to use vpn to have access to reddit sad
05:08:27 <setvin[m]> mainland?
05:08:38 <epemullen[m]> 🇮🇩
05:08:56 <setvin[m]> you think too highly of me
05:09:05 <nioc> There is a way to join rooms that are not listed but again I'm clueless 
05:09:13 <setvin[m]> haha
05:09:16 <setvin[m]> three blind mice over here
05:09:19 <setvin[m]> trying to join irc
05:09:23 <setvin[m]> I did it when i was 12
05:09:29 <setvin[m]> now I cant apparently, too much work
05:09:44 <epemullen[m]> Hahahaha
05:09:59 <setvin[m]> my first downloaded song was "tool anema" on an irc server
05:10:01 <setvin[m]> like 20+ years ago
05:10:14 <setvin[m]> I used to go to TOTSE
05:10:17 <epemullen[m]> I wasn’t even know what irc was
05:10:25 <setvin[m]> damn
05:10:40 <setvin[m]> im not old I promise
05:11:01 <setvin[m]> temple of the screaming electron was such an interesting place
05:11:10 <setvin[m]> the 'clear net' of the 90s was wild
05:12:02 <setvin[m]> I had a scanner so I was like the coolest kid in the neighborhood
05:12:18 <setvin[m]> some of the older kids asked me to scan like a print out of britney spears
05:12:24 <setvin[m]> and make copies
05:12:41 <setvin[m]> back in the trailer park... lol
05:16:33 <epemullen[m]> Lol
05:17:11 <epemullen[m]> <setvin[m]> "temple of the screaming electron..." <- What kind of temple is this
05:17:47 <setvin[m]> holy shit
05:17:50 <setvin[m]> apparently they remade it
05:18:06 <setvin[m]> https://newtotse.com/phpbb3/
05:18:20 <setvin[m]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOTSE
05:18:22 <setvin[m]> woah
05:18:24 <setvin[m]> that just blew my mind
05:47:27 <epemullen[m]> <setvin[m]> "if you figure out how to join..." <- i found the way and joined #p2pool-log 
05:50:06 <epemullen[m]> <nioc> "there is #monero-pow for..." <- explore rooms > under the search tab right side libera.chat matrix > then it shows these servers too
05:51:12 <epemullen[m]> oh yes, after switch to libera.chat matrix don't forget to search p2pool then i found some
05:51:17 <epemullen[m]> thanks sir
05:57:03 <epemullen[m]> <setvin[m]> "apparently they remade it" <- damnn nice temple ! 
06:23:16 <netrik182> To join irc rooms from matrix use #room-name:libera.chat, assuming it's on libera of course 
06:24:15 <netrik182> Like #p2pool-log:libera.chat
14:22:25 <LyzaL> the p2pool channel is #monero-pow <epemullen[m]>
14:23:05 <LyzaL> ah heck I shoulda finished reaeding b4 responding
14:28:17 <epemullen[m]> roger that sir i joined that one
14:28:27 <setvin[m]> lol
14:29:15 <epemullen[m]> what is that lol
14:29:43 <setvin[m]> lol? im laughing cuz hes probably talking about how I typed a lot
14:29:49 <setvin[m]> and im laughing at myself
14:30:08 <epemullen[m]> noo haha
14:30:20 <epemullen[m]> i mean what is that the #monero-pow
14:36:37 <setvin[m]> oh pow means 'proof of work'
14:36:51 <setvin[m]> hes saying thats the channel you should go to if you want to learn more about mining
14:38:03 <epemullen[m]> i c i c
14:38:25 <epemullen[m]> yes the #p2pool-log is block found alert
14:38:47 <epemullen[m]> honestly i don't have monero yet
14:39:06 <epemullen[m]> haha the $XMR but interested on having 
14:39:26 <epemullen[m]> and the gui wallet, yes slow.. with my old laptop
14:39:50 <setvin[m]> did you try feather wallet
14:39:58 <setvin[m]> thats much faster I believe
14:39:58 <epemullen[m]> almost there though just need to be patient a little xD
14:40:02 <epemullen[m]> no
14:40:08 <setvin[m]> okay 
14:40:09 <setvin[m]> yeah the first time is always rough
14:40:30 <epemullen[m]> yes it will be much faster 
14:40:42 <epemullen[m]> fair enough first time is always rough xD
14:40:59 <epemullen[m]> how long do you use monero sir ?
14:41:14 <setvin[m]> for ??? years
14:41:46 <epemullen[m]> nice
14:41:58 <epemullen[m]> good to know sir
16:43:06 <setvin[m]> "Humans being what they are, the noise is needed to help decide the direction of the group. Besides, for those of us who are just starting on our journey through crypto-underworld need the noise to help familiarize ourselves with how crypto works. I've learned more from the informal ramblings than I've gathered out of all the formal and/or mathematical postings to date." [Patrick E. Hykkonen, 5-25-93]
16:43:34 <setvin[m]>  * On the subject of too much "noise" in crypto:
16:43:34 <setvin[m]> "Humans being what they are, the noise is needed to help decide the direction of the group. Besides, for those of us who are just starting on our journey through crypto-underworld need the noise to help familiarize ourselves with how crypto works. I've learned more from the informal ramblings than I've gathered out of all the formal and/or mathematical postings to date." [Patrick E. Hykkonen, 5-25-93]
17:19:01 <dEBRUYNE> https://twitter.com/Realmichaelkolb/status/1463467096180994051
17:19:05 <dEBRUYNE> Anyone interested in reaching out to them?
17:22:06 <setvin[m]> looks like they have a git, a twitter and an instagram
17:22:16 <setvin[m]> im assuming twitter is covered, want to try instagram?
17:22:35 <setvin[m]> instagram down
17:22:38 <setvin[m]> rug pull?
17:23:31 * setvin[m] uploaded an image: (20KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/IpjYvmfgaiIVdjrcwFSDniDf/image.png >
17:23:32 <setvin[m]> https://github.com/airgap-it
17:23:32 <setvin[m]> their git
17:24:19 <setvin[m]> they posted on twitter 4 hours ago
17:24:30 <setvin[m]> so they ignored or didnt see that tweet
17:24:33 <setvin[m]> which was made 6 hours ago
17:25:19 <setvin[m]> here is his other projects
17:25:21 <setvin[m]> https://papers.ch/en/
17:25:26 <setvin[m]> https://hypergate.com/
17:25:33 <setvin[m]> that help?
23:19:54 <M4ource[m]> what is a .ch link?
23:21:09 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> no clue, just found that diggint their their social infos.
23:23:22 <M4ource[m]> whats best gpu for xmr
23:23:49 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> you can use a gpu to mine ethereum and trade for xmr shares
23:23:57 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> using something like prohashing or monero ocean
23:24:11 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> you mine monero with your cpu, then you can also earn monero by trading eth shares on ur gpu
23:24:34 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> to mine ethereum you need a 8g+ card
23:24:41 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> ethereum classic 4g+
23:33:22 <M4ource[m]> where can i swap eth for xmr no kyc 
23:33:29 <M4ource[m]> lll
23:34:06 <setvin[m]> maybe localmonero?
23:34:30 <M4ource[m]> what does 8g mean 8 gigahash? or 8 simultanious gpu
23:35:14 <M4ource[m]> where should i cpu mine now
23:42:04 <M4ource[m]> <bridgerton[m]> "<Setvin> to mine ethereum you..." <- i understand what you meant now-->  8+ gb of gpu ram
23:48:17 <setvin[m]> yes exactly, do you need a guide to start? there are quite a few around
23:49:16 <M4ource[m]> ive got about 2.2 kHash
23:49:26 <M4ource[m]> of cpu
23:50:27 <M4ource[m]> just dont know if its even wprth trying now because i could be finding the right components to buy instead. but i have no idea what to buy
23:58:03 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> thats not bad!
23:58:06 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> whats your cpu
23:58:23 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> hey I think there is a mining chat, do we want to move there?
23:58:43 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> well in the discord there is, you're not on the discord
23:59:47 <bridgerton[m]> <Setvin> alright lets go to monero-pools to chat I believe that will be the mining chatroom