01:33:23 <libre[m]> KYC Racism
01:33:28 <libre[m]> https://kstp.com/news/banking-while-black-police-video-shows-how-cashing-a-paycheck-led-to-handcuffs/6324616/
01:34:43 <libre[m]> They arrested him for cashing a check while black
01:35:36 <libre[m]> All on tape that shit is crazy. I’m glad we are building a world where gatekeepers don’t get to discriminate us
02:17:04 <monero-guides[m]> I need some help with regards to change https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/change.html. My understanding is that every deposit is made from a previous input, which is then divided into output, miner fee and change. Can any explain the technical reason for this?
02:25:38 <monero-guides[m]> s/I need some help with regards to change https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/change.html. My understanding is that every deposit is made from a previous input, which is then divided into output, miner fee and change. Can any explain the technical reason for this?/I need some help with regards to change https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/change.html. My understanding is that every 'output' is made
02:25:38 <monero-guides[m]> from a previous input, which is then divided into the actual output, miner fee and change. Can any explain the technical reason for this?/
06:52:37 <dEBRUYNE> monero-guides[m]: What part specifically do you not understand properly? Then I can try to explain
15:19:09 <monero-guides[m]> <dEBRUYNE> "monero-guides: What part..." <- thanks for the reply. I think the problem was partly with the wording of that moneropedia entry. my understanding now - 'you use a combination of 'owned outputs' as inputs for a new tx; the sum of which will likely not equal the output + miner fee hence change is generated. And according to to the foot note since v12, change is still generated as a 0 amount regardless' (footnotes
15:19:09 <monero-guides[m]> of zero to monero). In the moneropedia entry, the term 'input' is used in place of 'owned output'. At this point I think it would better for me to try and understand the mathematics and read the literature in its entirety, however I would certainly appreciate some pointers as to why this all occurs.
15:22:00 <Rucknium[m]> monero-guides: Monero still uses the UTXO (Unspent Transaction Output) model that bitcoin uses. It may be a good idea to first fully understand that model, by looking at the educational resources on bitcoin, and then move onto Monero, which added additional features to the UTXO model.
15:22:55 <Rucknium[m]> (To be clear, Monero's codebase itself is completely independent of bitcoin. It did not start as a software fork of bitcoin. But  some of the same features of bitcoin were used in Monero.)
15:23:06 <monero-guides[m]> nice, will do!
15:24:56 <Rucknium[m]> The input and output terms are unfortunate in that they seem generic, but they refer to a very specific thing in the UTXO model. And an output becomes an input when it is spent. Someone moving from one country to another is both immigrating and emigrating.
15:29:39 <jwinterm[m]> Monero is maybe more of a transaction output model as opposed to *unspent* transaction output model
15:30:48 <Rucknium[m]> True. Because one never knows if an output has been truly spent.
19:36:58 <Rucknium[m]> ETH<>XMR Atomic Swap CCS proposal by elizabeth  :
19:36:58 <Rucknium[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/277//diffs
19:38:32 <monerobull[m]> What happened to the bounty?
19:39:00 <crypto_grampy[m]> bounty is complete
19:39:04 <crypto_grampy[m]> this is taking it to the next level
19:39:36 <monerobull[m]> Oh i see
19:41:28 <monerobull[m]> I don't know all that much about how eth scaling works but could you launch the swap contract on polygon/L2?
19:41:43 <crypto_grampy[m]> add comments to the ccs :)
19:42:06 <crypto_grampy[m]> it's the place for discussion- others may have similar q's
23:32:48 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://www.monero.observer/verify-install-update-monero-cli-wallet-linux-guide/