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15:44:58 <nioc> no idea when that screen shot was taken but minexmr is currently at ~40% and I don't believe they ever reached 58%
16:45:18 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] help.ukraine opened pull request #292: Help Ukraine to use ONLY Monero
16:45:18 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/292
16:54:41 <spacekitty420[m]> <xmr-pr> "> https://repo.getmonero.org/..." <- so gotta shill cake wallet and localmonero basically?
16:54:41 <spacekitty420[m]> and like, is russia that being threatened of getting removed from the swift banking system and all that shiz so guess gotta do some cake walllet and localmonero shilling to both sides yea?
16:54:41 <spacekitty420[m]> then on a case by case basis tryna onboard local businesses to accept crypt, is basically what so many people been tryna do for a long while now, what's up with that ccs tho :derp: 
16:55:20 <spacekitty420[m]> s/crypt/cryptocoins/
16:57:58 <endogenic> damn, i wish i were not so behind on my work, it could help
16:58:13 <endogenic> if any devs want to work on that problem pls hit me up
17:16:50 <sgp_[m]1> Did everyone see that Orbot for iOS is now out? Here I am using it in Cake Wallet :) https://twitter.com/cakewallet/status/1498336947072163845
19:31:03 <xmrliberator[m]> about time 
19:31:21 <xmrliberator[m]> does it leak ip like onion browser?
19:33:15 <fr33_yourself[m]> When will we get tails OS on smartphone hardware :)
19:34:13 <idk[m]> fr33_yourself[m]: I hope that question is a joke, without monumental effort it will never, ever happen
19:36:46 <fr33_yourself[m]> It was semi-joking. It would be nice if the average Joe had a pocketdevice that wasn't constantly leaking his geo-location. I suppose it would be more of a cell-service provider issue
19:37:04 <idk[m]> Yes and no
19:37:13 <idk[m]> It's also an "I can't boot the OS I want" issue
19:37:18 <idk[m]> That IMO is the bigger one
19:37:45 <spacekitty420[m]> idk[m]: cant it already be done through virtual machine like with "limbo" and such tho? there's some powerful phones nowadays even with like 16GB of RAM so could be an option am guessing
19:38:44 <idk[m]> Yeah it could be done that way in theory, it would not provide all the guarantees of the TAILS architecture but that is a possibility
19:39:11 <spacekitty420[m]> o.o
19:40:28 <spacekitty420[m]> else i guess there's GrapheneOS and CalyxOS
19:41:04 <idk[m]> Which would probably be the best-case scenario for a host OS with a TAILS VM
19:41:41 <idk[m]> But part of the point of TAILS is that there is no "host os" in normal operation, TAILS is self-contained
19:42:42 <spacekitty420[m]> wen QubesOS on mobile tho o.o
19:42:47 <spacekitty420[m]> 🤤
19:42:48 <idk[m]> A "Linux Deploy" type app could easily support a TAILS OS, but the host system would have power it ideally shouldn't have
19:43:38 <fr33_yourself[m]> Yeah I guess that all makes sense. Moral of the story is to always keep your phone in airplane mode or don't use a cellphone for anything of consequence haha
19:44:42 <spacekitty420[m]> fr33_yourself[m]: tbf am one of those retard that still to this day dont use a smartphone but one of those old ass nokia phone 🧓
19:44:48 <spacekitty420[m]> s/🧓/:derp: /
19:47:19 <idk[m]> Yeah I guess that's one takeaway. There's another "just the facts of life" case where an attempt to gain privacy is non-specific in nature and therefore intrinsically "nothing of consequence" is to be gained by compromising the individual. With too many smartphones to crack and not enough time, you're still hiding in the crowd. So IMO the real takeaway is "Don't draw attention to your activities" and "don't trust a smartphone to
19:47:19 <idk[m]> *remain* in your control."
19:47:21 <fr33_yourself[m]> spacekitty420[m]: A nokia could probably still reveal your location, but would be more difficult to pin to your identity. They'd have to use Machine Learning on the metadata to identify you based on people you call/message whose identities are known.
19:47:48 <idk[m]> Or subpeona a carrier
19:48:59 <fr33_yourself[m]> idk[m]: I just read 1984. It shook me to the core. I'm worried something like that becomes a reality. It will be AI + Big Tech (Propietary Surveillance) + Gov  vs.  Crypotraphy + Privacy + FOSS
22:01:08 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://www.monero.observer/monero-observer-xmr-analysis-week-8-2022/
22:15:18 -xmr-pr- [meta] Rucknium opened issue #669: Monero Research Lab Meeting - Wed 02 March 2022 @ 17:00 UTC
22:15:18 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/669