13:21:43 <MikeNarilaw[m]> can you recommend any guide to setting up a full node? also does the node need to have a static ip address?
13:38:14 <mandelbrot42[m]> Mike Narilaw: https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node/
13:52:03 <chesterfield[m]> <MikeNarilaw[m]> "can you recommend any guide to..." <- you can run your node over tor as a tor hidden service without needing to have a static ip/open any ports on your router.  Cake Wallet and Monerujo both support connecting to nodes over Tor as well.
14:01:19 <MikeNarilaw[m]> <mandelbrot42[m]> "Mike Narilaw: https://sethforpri..." <- that guide specifies to use someones specific docker instance, is there an official guide from monero without third parties?
14:07:04 <mandelbrot42[m]> Mike Narilaw: Justin wrote the following guide back in 2018: https://www.monero.how/how-to-run-monero-node
14:08:10 <chesterfield[m]> <MikeNarilaw[m]> "that guide specifies to use..." <- https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node-advanced/
14:09:24 <sethforprivacy> Docker is as much a third-party as systemd, but can of course prefer "native" system service instead of Docker :) Both guides should serve you well, but Docker greatly simplifies the process, updates, and maintenance.
14:10:47 <chesterfield[m]> I'm hoping to get a guide going in the future, but the Monero GUI in advanced mode can also be used as a full node with the proper custom monerod startup flags (there's a field in the GUI for adding custom flags)
14:10:52 <MikeNarilaw[m]> sethforprivacy: I meant using someone elses docker image
14:11:15 <chesterfield[m]> * full node exposed to the outside world with the
14:11:53 <MikeNarilaw[m]> thanks for the link, and what do you think about running it in aws as an ec2 instances vs as a vm? would there be any additional benefit placing it behind tor?
14:12:53 <chesterfield[m]> if you're connecting to your own vps hidden service node over tor, you hide a lot of the metadata that can be seen by ISP's
14:13:33 <sethforprivacy> MikeNarilaw[m]: You can build it yourself, all open-source in the repo.
14:13:45 <sethforprivacy> It compiles Monero from source, can validate all of that as well :)
14:14:49 <MikeNarilaw[m]> chesterfield[m]: if I had my own ec2 instance publicly available and connect to it through a vpn or tor, wouldn't I also achieve the same?
14:17:03 <chesterfield[m]> probably safe to assume a VPN logs the same amount as an ISP, and going from tor > clearnet > your ec2 is probably a bit leaky as well
14:17:27 <plowsof[m]> The exit node would see everything then? 
14:17:37 <chesterfield[m]> yeap
14:18:43 <chesterfield[m]> if you're using docker, it's very trivial to expose it as a tor hidden service and just use Cake/Monerujo + Orbot or feather wallet on desktop to connect to it remotely 
14:19:00 <chesterfield[m]> may as well go all the way if you're going to use tor at all
14:25:53 <MikeNarilaw[m]> then the best option would be to create a local vm with monero, and set it up to connect to the network, and only I would be able to connect to the node locally, would that work?
14:26:17 <MikeNarilaw[m]> * vm with a full monero, * monero node, and
14:26:34 <chesterfield[m]> I personally run a node locally, use it locally when possible, and also have it exposed as a tor hidden service for when i'm on the go
14:29:48 <chesterfield[m]> a lot of this just depends on your opsec requirement.  I recommend just trying different things out and seeing what works best for you.  Monero nodes use Dandelion++ which helps reduce the ability for outside observers to know the origin of a tx, FYI.  
15:05:35 <chaoliu123[m]> I don't understand technology, but my machine was confiscated and I am now penniless.
15:06:57 <chaoliu123[m]> I need your help.
15:25:09 <bridgerton[m]> <Encore> chaoliu123: did you write down your mnemonic seed anywhere? this is a critical step and there's good reason why most wallets urge you to do so
15:27:02 <chaoliu123[m]> bridgerton[m]: My mining computer and mobile phone were confiscated.
15:29:08 <bridgerton[m]> <Encore> do they have access to the contents of those devices?
15:29:33 <bridgerton[m]> <Encore> the seed phrase is best stored on paper in a place noone will find it
15:31:09 <chaoliu123[m]> bridgerton[m]: All my stuff was in the studio at the time.
15:33:50 <chaoliu123[m]> Assets of $500,000 were seized.
15:35:46 <nollied[m]> chaoliu123[m]: why?
15:36:35 <chaoliu123[m]> nollied[m]: The value of the mining machine
15:36:53 <nollied[m]> your machine was $500k
15:37:08 <nollied[m]> was it coated in gold?
15:38:22 <chaoliu123[m]> 1000 machines
15:39:17 <chaoliu123[m]> nollied[m]: One worth $500
15:40:05 <nollied[m]> jeez it all got taken?
15:40:14 <nollied[m]> why tho?
15:41:13 <chaoliu123[m]> nollied[m]: Our country strikes it
15:41:41 <runfox[m]> in what country is mining xmr illegal?
15:42:39 <chaoliu123[m]> china
15:44:12 <bridgerton[m]> <Encore> shit
15:45:33 <nollied[m]> why are you not in jail?
15:45:49 <bridgerton[m]> <sech1> wow
15:46:49 <bridgerton[m]> <sech1> a $500k lesson to keep your backups where only you can reach them
15:47:48 <chaoliu123[m]> bridgerton[m]: My home was also searched
15:48:33 <chaoliu123[m]> I currently live with my parents
16:08:58 <plowsof[m]> You are penniless but invested $500k 🤔 How can we help? 
16:10:39 <bridgerton[m]> <ルナ> Man says my mobile was taken and all his stuff seized but yet he is still talking to us using a bridge
16:11:03 <nollied[m]> chaoliu123: not looking good my dude
16:11:44 <bridgerton[m]> <ルナ> I’m smelling a dairy farms load of bullshit from this story lol
16:13:01 <chaoliu123[m]> bridgerton[m]: I live with my parents now on the old computer from before and I can't leave my city.
16:14:46 <chaoliu123[m]> bridgerton[m]: My parents paid a deposit of 300,000 RMB for me.
16:17:26 <chaoliu123[m]> Bye, I'm going to bed, good night
16:22:49 <bridgerton[m]> <Encore> I'm not sure what we're supposed to do about it
16:26:20 <bridgerton[m]> <ルナ> We really can’t do anything , dude just gotta accept his own mistake 😂
16:26:50 <sech1> China is working hard to decentralize Monero mining!
16:27:30 <bridgerton[m]> <ルナ> Pretty sure china banned crypto mining of all kinds lol
16:32:01 <plowsof[m]> <sech1> "China is working hard to..." <- Reducing minexmr hash power one farm at a time!
16:33:41 <nollied[m]> omg
21:08:39 <sgp_> Without Privacy, We Are Creating Systems to Discriminate https://medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/without-privacy-we-are-creating-systems-to-discriminate-807dfb1f35e6?sk=86f9cc95efce68a96f6251d489bc02a5
21:22:39 <midipoet> sgp_: nice read. Fair play
21:23:55 <sgp_> Thanks midipoet! I'm glad you enjoyed it
22:03:50 <surgeon_[m]> <sgp_> "Without Privacy, We Are Creating..." <- Very well said! Great Article!
22:04:04 <sgp_> Thanks surgeon_ !
23:02:14 <msvb-web> It's a very good article sgp_, how long did it take you to research all the historical information?
23:10:12 <bridgerton[m]> <Encore> good god I hate Medium
23:46:32 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://www.monero.observer/monero-observer-xmr-analysis-week-11-2022/