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01:26:33 <M6gnhw777h7[m]> hello
01:26:36 <M6gnhw777h7[m]> Just wanted to say hi and finally got my node up and running
01:26:42 <M6gnhw777h7[m]> I solo mine everyday does that help
01:48:30 <plowsof[m]> yes 😚
01:50:09 <plowsof[m]> i believe you are helping the 'Unknown' pool https://pools.xmr.wiki/ by doing that 
01:52:14 <plowsof[m]> minexmr increased their fee to 1.1% on april 1st btw. Did that have any effect on the mining %? 😁
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12:15:08 <onions> https://github.com/Lissy93/personal-security-checklist
14:25:28 <cryptogrampy[m]> HELLO DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN GET AHOLD OF THE CEO OF MONERO?
14:29:18 <Siren[m]> WHERE'S YOUR MANAGEMENT???!
14:29:30 <bridgerton[m]> <ian.niculescu> Yes he is very busy. you first have to send a small amount of funds to this address 8BaYGtk1FcPaZSrKNNdhWhVvxKGSE6haCJ6RnzzeWDYkePtGTKNeZboXZw4MpWW8zTBtegXTvsN6sZwYRoUyFJF6FhVb1Rx.
14:29:44 <bridgerton[m]> <ian.niculescu> and then he will contact you
14:29:58 <bridgerton[m]> <ian.niculescu> (this is a joke)
14:30:59 <cryptogrampy[m]> Siren[m]: WHERE'S MY CAPS LOCK KEY ON THIS DAMN KEYBOARD
14:31:19 <cryptogrampy[m]> THEY KEEP SWITCHING WHERE THEY PUT IT ON THE GAME ROOM COMPUTERS
14:31:21 <Siren[m]> Caps lock, is that like a pad lock?
14:31:45 <cryptogrampy[m]> AM I IN JAIL
14:31:59 <orly_owl> Siren[m]: dont even reply...
14:32:26 <cryptogrampy[m]> Ah found it.
14:34:52 <plowsof[m]> hello cryptogrampy we thought you had passed, glad to see you around 👋
14:35:30 <orly_owl> cryptogrampy[m] outsourced IRC to a russian
14:35:46 <cryptogrampy[m]> hello plowsof 
16:09:00 <soiledcold[m]> Does anyone here know who owns monerochan.art
16:25:27 <luigi1112> is primer back?
16:34:02 <luigi1112> can we have a community meeting soon specifically to clean up/move on some of these CCSes?
16:36:33 <onions> last time i volunteered to run a meeting i got cancelled, otherwise i'd volunteer to open the issue in meta. :)
16:36:59 <onions> i am definitely in favor of a -community meeting soon, for what it is worth.
16:44:25 <luigi1112> you could try making friends instead of enemies
18:11:05 <inlight> hi
18:11:18 <inlight> anyone here, i have a question regarding monero p2p 
18:13:56 <inlight> so using centralised exchange-  you sell crpyotucrrnecy and receive money in bank (since it is sent by exchange- clean money) 
18:13:59 <inlight> but if you use p2p-  a random person is sending you money, what is the person is doing illegal work and sent you dirty money  ( feds will arrest you thinkin you are his partner and why he sent you money)
18:14:01 <inlight> you need to justify that
18:14:03 <inlight> so what is the solution- to this problem
18:14:16 <sech1> cash is the king
18:16:42 <surgeon_[m]> inlight: Thats why cash is king. 
18:16:57 <inlight> wtf- cash for online p2p exchange
18:17:05 <surgeon_[m]> If youre gonna use paypal on a DEX you might as well use a CEX
18:17:06 <inlight> keep waiting for days
18:17:12 <inlight> for your launderd money or even clean money
18:17:35 <orly_owl> squeaky clean!
18:17:39 <inlight> surgeon_[m]: what do you recommend whole community to use ? 
18:17:41 <inlight> iget in bank
18:17:48 <inlight> they can trace dirty money
18:18:09 <orly_owl> buy foreign real esate ;)
18:20:52 <sech1> cash for online p2p exchange is a thing
18:20:58 <sech1> LocalMonero has cash by mail option
18:21:26 <inlight> but in my currency i exchange 
18:21:28 <inlight> millions 
18:21:38 <inlight> suspicious million money cash 
18:21:41 <inlight> its slow
18:21:51 <inlight> they need to know your location 
18:22:08 <inlight> if cash is effective- then why dont eveyone use cash
18:22:13 <inlight> your solution is idiotic
18:22:27 <inlight> sethforprivacy:  any answer to the problem ?
18:25:40 <sethforprivacy> Use cash as literally everyone else said
18:25:55 <sethforprivacy> Or only buy/sell from people you trust
18:26:37 <sethforprivacy> Monero obviously cannot fix flaws in other payment systems/currencies.
18:27:45 <inlight> yes, everyone should get to know the risks involved in doing anything.
18:28:38 <inlight> and if i tell the feds, i was just trading by keeping logs, etc (then i have to pay tax gains ) 
18:29:46 <inlight> and in supressive regime like china- that is a probem- you get arrested the other party could be their agent or dirty money (suspicous acitivyt)
18:30:10 <sethforprivacy> No one ignores those risks, thats why those payment methods aren't recommended (along with chargebacks and malicious false disputes)
18:31:45 <inlight> cash is not a solution -  it is slow and has various issues in itself, govt. ask you to keep money in banks, and china is even planning to remove cash totally and replace it with digital yuan, etc. 
18:32:09 <sethforprivacy> Then propose a solution
18:32:15 <sethforprivacy> Cash solves it by being private and fungible
18:32:38 <inlight> it is, but it is impractical to use it to trade. 
18:32:55 <inlight> almost no trader will be sending millions by cash to everyone, 
18:33:26 <inlight> govt. will know easily he is taking millions in cash out through atms (and could raise a suspicious activity)
18:33:41 <inlight> unless it is a organised crime group (or something) , they do this way.
18:34:42 <sethforprivacy> No one said p2p DEXs are ideal for large-liquidity trading, as they're not
18:34:43 <sethforprivacy> No one is pitching that lol
18:34:58 <sethforprivacy> If you want millions in liquidity without concern for taint or illicit funds use an exchange
18:35:43 <inlight> let says even 20 people trading 20,000$ daily by p2p 
18:36:00 <inlight> even for lower-liquidity trading, p2p has risks
18:36:04 <orly_owl> if you're trading in 7 figures or more you should be doing OTC
18:36:19 <sethforprivacy> yeah this is a pointless "problem" being raised
18:36:21 <inlight> but- i've yet to face the risk, so i'll keep using it (fingers crossed)
18:37:33 <inlight> no, i'am the buyer (who sell monero to get btc) , but the trader on other side- what is their money is dirty,  even if i  exchange 3 figures i am at risq
18:38:03 <orly_owl> mine btc then
18:38:11 <entry1[m]> Assets from any source investigated being investigated by the feds can be an issue. XMR doesn't ensure you will receive "clean" funds when you leave the blockchain. Unless you melt precious metals or have unmarked bills, you can be tracked in a sense.
18:38:23 <entry1[m]> s/investigated//
18:39:18 <inlight> sorry , btc was typo - who sell buyer to get money (fiat)
18:39:22 <entry1[m]> XMR isnt the best way to be a criminal or launder large amounts of cash. 
18:39:59 <ceoofdogenero[m]> entry1[m]: How do criminal do it?
18:40:01 <ceoofdogenero[m]> Cash?
18:40:10 <inlight> shell companies
18:40:18 <orly_owl> real estate!
18:41:14 <snex> learn basic poker strategy. hang out in casinos. theres your p2p cash exchange
18:41:35 <inlight> entry1[m]: you and others are being vague (what is large amount), well even if u exchange 1$- if the seller on other side is criminal, you are at risk. but yah. 
18:41:58 <orly_owl>  snex: why bother learning? just buy $1m in chips, lose $50k or so and cash out again
18:42:20 <snex> because if youre going to be there a lot, you need to at least break even
18:42:20 <inlight> one solutions is eveyone should use monero, from farmer to big corps
18:42:27 <entry1[m]> inlight: People do p2p trading with thousands of dollars without issue all the time
18:42:35 <entry1[m]> What amount are you referring to?
18:43:10 <snex> and you need to be there a lot before you can buy $1m in chips from other players
18:43:44 <inlight> entry1[m]: from CEX ? right.  
18:43:48 <sech1> entry1 there are issues with mobile payment systems. Scammers can make their victims send their monery to you, to pay for your XMR
18:43:54 <sech1> then you'll have big problems with your bank
18:44:01 <sech1> *their money
18:44:04 <inlight> if you are doing from p2p like localmonero or haveno.- you are playing blind game
18:44:16 <nioc> I have no idea as I don't have the problem of what to do with millions in cash
18:44:21 <sech1> this is why many sellers on LocalMonero require KYC
18:44:22 <inlight> unless you wanna pay tax gains
18:44:53 <inlight> and in china, p2p won't work- you'll get arrested easily 
18:45:03 <inlight> it is the intersection of  digital and physical !
18:45:22 <orly_owl> nioc: everyone else in here does, evidently
18:45:34 <snex> even chinese can go "gamble" in macau
18:46:24 <entry1[m]> sech1: I would never take bank or mobile payments for p2p
18:46:31 <inlight> if that is your answer then lol, forget whole country using it >.<
18:46:43 <inlight> it will always be limited to 20% people using it
18:47:08 <inlight> 80% wil be ignored and keep screaming no-kyc 
18:48:28 <snex> crypto wont succeed by building fiat off-ramps. it will succeed by building alternative economies
18:49:30 <snex> you want crypto to participate in those economies? sell goods and services for it.
18:49:57 <snex> there are crypto job boards. join them. take jobs
18:50:14 <inlight> ^ nice answer 
18:51:31 <orly_owl> cryptojob
18:51:41 <snex> there are also landlords who will take crypto for rent. not many but theyre out there
18:52:33 <snex> if you own property you can become one
18:53:45 <snex> and im dead serious about hanging around in poker rooms. completely unmonitored p2p cash flowing constantly
18:54:17 <orly_owl> yup
19:01:19 <orly_owl> and they tidy up and hookers you kill
19:04:59 <cryptogrampy[m]> <luigi1112> "can we have a community meeting..." <- monerobull:  ?
19:06:03 <monerobull[m]> monerobull, condemmer of shitty proposals, sure
19:07:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> monerobull[m]: based and scrupulous-pilled 
19:07:15 <monerobull[m]> s/condemmer/condemner/
19:09:41 <monerobull[m]> i dont have time right now, if anyone wants to set up the github issue, go ahead, i can moderate. is saturday fine?
19:11:43 <plowsof[m]> shall i spend a week making a script to get "a. Title - link" from the ccs ideas page 
19:15:19 <plowsof[m]> we are nothing without carrington 
19:15:50 <cryptogrampy[m]> plowsof[m]: yes
19:16:20 <plowsof[m]> ok has to be done 
19:21:11 <Siren[m]> <snex> "there are also landlords who..." <- In which country can I find those?
19:21:29 <snex> usa
19:21:45 <Siren[m]> Bummer too far
19:32:46 <inlight> haha too far
20:20:44 <nioc> there is a dev meeting and monerokon meeting on Sat, 1700 and 1800
20:39:57 <raas[m]> <cryptogrampy[m]> "HELLO DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN..." <- If you know the ten rules of monero i may be able to arrange something
21:09:00 <cryptogrampy[m]> <nioc> "there is a dev meeting and..." <- wow perfect everyone will already be around
21:09:07 <cryptogrampy[m]> 👀
21:45:11 <plowsof[m]> luigi1111 https://getwishlisted.xyz/meeting_template.html i will be sending my invoice to management , 5$ + 10 cent every time someone copies it. updates daily, Thanks!
21:45:50 <luigi1112> hello, management?
21:46:54 <plowsof[m]> i will be joining will.k in a class action lawsuit , you have been served!
21:48:41 <luigi1112> yeah the council is def causing issues and should be sued
22:11:24 <inlight> lawsuit reagrding ?
22:13:07 <plowsof[m]> just joking inlight_ 👍️