01:22:27 <cryptogrampy[m]> <agatesAlecksGate> "BTW, I took Seth's monerod/..." <- do you have this in a public repo?
01:29:04 <agatesAlecksGate> <cryptogrampy[m]> "do you have this in a public..." <- Not yet, it's more just a modification of the instructions I've yet to write down.  Bit more technical than "just use docker" of course
03:16:37 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://www.monero.observer/list-anon-email-service-providers/
03:17:27 <escapethe3ra[m]> this is re: cTemplar exodus
03:27:09 <bridgerton[m]> <GalaxyNova> what does effort mean in the p2pool status output?
03:36:55 <cryptogrampy[m]> <escapethe3ra[m]> "https://www.monero.observer/list..." <- Spelling error: (R): Reliabile (relatively good uptime)
03:39:39 <cryptogrampy[m]> nice list
04:05:16 <escapethe3ra[m]> thanks, nice eagle eye grampy
04:08:22 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://www.monero.observer/kayabanerve-discovers-security-vulnerability-monero-python-module/
04:14:05 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://www.monero.observer/kayabanerve-discovers-security-vulnerability-monero-python-module/
04:16:48 <escapethe3ra[m]> not sure why the description is not updated, guess it didn't fully propagate yet
04:49:19 <mj-xmr[m]> monerobull: Moar Monerochan stickerz plz :)
04:53:42 <mj-xmr[m]> https://monerosupplies.com/2022/04/26/free-monerochan-sticker-included-with-the-next-10-680-sticker-orders/
05:00:58 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://twitter.com/jswihart/status/1519175104701235200?s=20 🤔🤔🤔
05:05:42 <mj-xmr[m]> I hope you're wrong too, dude. Laters.
12:41:42 <sethforprivacy> <cryptogrampy[m]> "https://twitter.com/jswihart/..." <- lmao fuck these Zcash idiots
12:41:47 <sethforprivacy> "Monero doesn't protect against surveillance"
12:42:18 <sethforprivacy> Someone should tell the feds who can't seem to leverage Monero tracing against DNMs/ransomware like they could with Bitcoin
12:52:00 <spacekitty420[m4> "I'm sure there are well meaning Twatter users with good and pure objectives. I'm am also sure Twatter doesn't protect against wide spread brain damage. It sort of doesnt work since in most cases, twatter do make u brain damaged."
12:52:01 <sethforprivacy> I mean they have the truth that ring-sigs are not an ideal technical solution (trust aside)
12:52:33 <sethforprivacy> But of course they never mention that that's only a small portion of the holistic approach to privacy in Monero, nor do they bring up how many people are gaining strong privacy in the real-world versus in their science experiment.
12:59:51 <snex> i got into it in the youtube comments with naomi watts about this. either she has no idea what shes talking about (in which case why is she appearing as an expert guest on podcasts) or somebody is paying her to shill
12:59:51 <midipoet> what science experiments? the ones being conducted at the chain analysis firms?
13:00:17 <snex> you really gotta go on the tom woods podcast seth
13:03:17 <sethforprivacy> I'll happily go on any podcast to chat about privacy/Monero/Bitcoin 🙂
13:07:46 <spacekitty420[m4> <snex> "i got into it in the youtube..." <- did u mean naomi brockwell?
13:08:16 <snex> maybe? the one who shills for bitcoin and zcash lol
13:09:04 <snex> ok yes it was brockwell
13:09:12 <snex> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-RlrWMa6vE - you can see it there
13:09:21 <spacekitty420[m4> i think that's her yea, tho iirc she might have made 1 monero video (got a few things not quite accurate but whatever) and does have 1 monero poster in the background
13:11:22 <snex> well she was on woods' show shilling for bitcoin and only briefly discussed privacy and mentioned only zcash by name. got shit in the comments for it and was trying to defend herself (poorly imo)
13:12:05 <snex> woods is a historian so likely doesnt really understand why bitcoin is a bad solution, needs a guest who can lay this all out for him
13:12:40 <spacekitty420[m4> she has her own channel and you're most likely right about getting a paycheck from zcash, i mean, she def made way more videos about it compared to a single one on monero if am not mistaken
13:58:26 <sethforprivacy> <cryptogrampy[m]> "https://twitter.com/jswihart/..." <- https://twitter.com/sethforprivacy/status/1519314928913502215
13:58:36 <sethforprivacy> Not taking that idiocy lying down.
14:07:23 <w[m]> This guy works for zcash too roflmao
14:12:21 <sethforprivacy> Of course 🙃
14:12:43 <cryptogrampy[m]> he's gotta up those numbers
14:13:50 <cryptogrampy[m]> pretty sad if it amounts to 'this is what i heard from <del>my coworkers</del> some people i know down at ciphertrace'
14:24:10 <w[m]> https://twitter.com/wef/status/1519119185422524416?s=19
14:25:16 <w[m]> (Unrelated to xmr, but wef sounds like ecc regarding pos)
14:29:03 <snex> btc switching to Proof Of Rich?
14:37:28 <merope> <w[m]> "https://twitter.com/wef/status/1..." <- A nice take on that stupidity from an actual mining industry professional: https://twitter.com/OhGodAGirl/status/1519162774433124357
14:40:06 <snex> "cant understand why wef..." thats because OP assumes they are operating honestly
14:40:16 <snex> when their actual goal is global domination
14:41:43 <r4v3r23[m]> <snex> "btc switching to Proof Of Rich?" <- proof of stacks
15:52:15 <sethforprivacy> Monero "project review" incoming from CoinBureau!
15:52:15 <sethforprivacy> https://twitter.com/coinbureau/status/1519308563516174336?s=20&t=ih6bdXGMjgiC5lHI5E46_A
15:53:33 <monerobull[m]> Needs more darknet
15:59:30 <w[m]> > <@sethforprivacy:matrix.optoutpod.com> Monero "project review" incoming from CoinBureau!
15:59:30 <w[m]> > 
15:59:30 <w[m]> > https://twitter.com/coinbureau/status/1519308563516174336?s=20&t=ih6bdXGMjgiC5lHI5E46_A
15:59:30 <w[m]> Goated
16:02:20 <sethforprivacy> He has a huge community so very glad he's covering Monero with an entire video
16:21:45 <w[m]> He's covered xmr a few times over the years 🔥 I think he has a good chunk of his portfolio in xmr
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16:23:34 <w[m]>  oleary is 10% xmr as well
16:26:38 <cryptogrampy[m]> This is fake, right?  Monero is for criminals and people with serious brain injuries
16:26:50 <w[m]> She's real
16:26:58 <w[m]> He's a criminal though, obv
16:27:13 <xxfedexx[m]> <w[m]> "https://twitter.com/wef/status/1..." <- Notice how the animation in the background at 0:21 is an ETH miner 🤣
16:27:26 <cryptogrampy[m]> w[m]: Sir my fact checkers are going to need a video link to this
16:28:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> The nursing home added fact checkers last year.  They don't let unfounded fake news for past the front door
16:28:19 <cryptogrampy[m]> s/for/go/
16:29:35 <cryptogrampy[m]> They won't even let me try zcash despite showing them the Snowden videos
16:30:10 <xxfedexx[m]> <sethforprivacy> "He has a huge community so..." <- He already did 3 videos about it : )
16:30:35 <xxfedexx[m]> he presumably like xmr
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16:31:09 <xxfedexx[m]> As you can see here, there are more XMR logos than logos of any other coin
16:31:44 <xxfedexx[m]> 25 xmr logos, 22 eth logos, 24 ltc logos and a few Bitcoin logos
16:32:31 <xxfedexx[m]> Thanks Ceruleus for this info
16:33:37 <plowsof[m]> inflation bug confirmed 😁
16:40:23 <w[m]> <cryptogrampy[m]> "The nursing home added fact..." <- Google not being my friend today
16:43:24 <w[m]> * Google not being my friend today
16:43:24 <w[m]> (Could be fake news 😬 not sure if fact checkers are still a thing) 
16:44:28 <w[m]> <xxfedexx[m]> "Notice how the animation in..." <- ETC miner 🤣🤣
16:46:27 <w[m]> * ETC miner 🤣🤣
16:46:27 <w[m]> 🤔 says etchash but showed eth Share found. 🤷‍♂️ I dunno
17:27:07 <nioc> <cryptogrampy[m]> This is fake, right?  Monero is for criminals and people with serious brain injuries <<>> brain injury describes wow users 
17:27:09 <nioc> https://suchwow.xyz/uploads/wannabuy.jpg
18:30:28 <kinghat[m]> Seth For Privacy🛡️ is SVP Growth, Prod Strat and Reg Rel @MEA
18:30:32 <sethforprivacy> LOL
18:46:45 <ceoofdogenero[m]> Look like xmr price lose momentum
18:46:58 <ceoofdogenero[m]> Has cex successfully cover their spot short?
18:47:41 <draygonia[m]> What happened to the reddit community action of removing liquidity from exchanges? People were speculating the price would go up. And it  did. And then it came back down again.
18:56:40 <nioc> people were hallucinating 
18:58:48 <draygonia[m]> Monero is used as a currency, wouldn't the price be forced down by people converting back to other coins or fiat? As long as that's done at a greater pace than people are buying.
19:04:23 <merope> maybe people started bringing liquidity back on exchanges to sell on the price rise, so now we're back at square one :D
19:05:50 <draygonia[m]> The reason I came to this chat is that I'm looking into building a market that uses XMR, SCRT and other privacy coins with an escrow feature to settle transactions. Does anyone have ideas for resources?
20:01:57 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2022/04/27/edward-snowden-revealed-as-key-participant-in-mysterious-ceremony-creating-2-billion-anonymous-cryptocurrency/
20:02:02 <cryptogrampy[m]> wow edward snowden created zcash
20:02:41 <w[m]> Lmfao
20:03:08 <w[m]> Hes the last key holder from forays reveal? 💀
20:03:13 <w[m]> s/forays/todays/
20:04:22 <selsta> that's why he always shilled it lol
20:04:40 <w[m]> Bet he didnt delete his key
20:05:42 <w[m]> Thats pathetic 
20:06:09 <w[m]> No morals. Shilling his 20% Dev fee
20:06:29 <cryptogrampy[m]> bet the KGB wasn't monitoring his communications with the Zcash team and i bet they don't have a copy of his key
20:07:18 <w[m]> For sure. And he clearly revealed during wartimes because he doesnt think they'll torture him 
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20:11:00 <w[m]> So much integrity 
20:24:45 <monerobull[m]> id larp for a "privacy" coin too if it pays well enough. snowden already risked everything to expose what the feds are doing and most people went "eh, who cares", why should he give a damn anymore
20:26:48 <monerobull[m]> have you seen the recent "crypto shill list"?
20:27:09 <monerobull[m]> im sure snowden gets upwards of 20k per shill tweet from ECC
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20:30:11 <monerobull[m]> man i synced my wallet last week but it looks like it forgot about it after i had to force close it
20:30:34 <spacekitty420[m4> to be fair, that snowden tweet was in 2017, monero grew a fuck lot since, so many gamechanging upgrades and whatnot
20:30:34 <spacekitty420[m4> and few weeks ago there was that reddit post saying that snowden did finally mentioned monero in a conference or somethin
20:30:37 <monerobull[m]> is the "staying open" bug fixed in the next release?
20:31:07 <w[m]> For monero GUI? CLI?
20:31:11 <monerobull[m]> gui
20:31:43 <monerobull[m]> im still on 0.17.2.3 too
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20:32:00 <w[m]> Bruh
20:32:00 <cryptogrampy[m]> love this guy
20:32:13 <spacekitty420[m4> the fuk lol
20:34:05 <w[m]> But were the trolls.
20:34:05 <w[m]> Man. These corporate execs smdh. He feels real tough because people love snowden
20:34:38 <w[m]> Seth For Privacy: 
20:34:38 <w[m]> You see this? Lol
20:35:09 <w[m]> (Its a reply to Seth)
20:35:52 <w[m]> Zooko on a blocking spree too
20:36:33 <sethforprivacy> w[m]: Zooko unblocked me (again) to reply lol
20:36:50 <monerobull[m]> lol
20:36:54 <sethforprivacy> <cryptogrampy[m]> "image.png" <- Yeah I forgot this is the guy who said he could trace Monero then fluffy crushed him
20:36:59 <sethforprivacy> Anyone have links to that thread?
20:37:17 <w[m]> Yea, 1 sec
20:37:38 <sethforprivacy> https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1410383416722403328?t=fTz_v4715H-rCQ5bjZa3bQ&s=19
20:37:39 <sethforprivacy> Lol
20:39:23 <w[m]> Thats the one
20:41:27 <sethforprivacy> https://twitter.com/sethforprivacy/status/1519416344709632001?t=XlpQAMQX0KjLjlWGDKFoug&s=19
20:41:29 <w[m]> I wonder if he blocked vik (Cake): and sgp_ @sgp_:monero.social: 
20:43:00 <cryptogrampy[m]> there's no way bruce wagner is real
20:43:06 <cryptogrampy[m]> it's gotta be a fluffy meme account
20:46:32 <sethforprivacy> Lmao just realized Zooko wants us to pay him for a license exception for HALO2/Orchard:
20:46:32 <sethforprivacy> https://twitter.com/zooko/status/1519384914080149504?t=TWUVuiAGo2zC7L9sw-Qt0g&s=19
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20:47:15 <w[m]> cryptogrampy[m]: U got my crying grampy
20:47:26 <w[m]> * U got me crying, grampy
20:50:05 <cryptogrampy[m]> Did the ZEC community pay for all of the code they used to create ZEC?
20:51:04 <cryptogrampy[m]> king zooko
20:53:03 <netop2p[m]> cryptogrampy[m]: It's good to know that ZEC forked from bitcoin.
20:53:38 <cryptogrampy[m]> that's kind of where my my mind was going 🙃
21:04:41 <selsta> 22:30 <monerobull[m]> is the "staying open" bug fixed in the next release? <-- maybe
21:06:12 <selsta> i was never able to reproduce it but 2 people that had it say it's fixed
21:06:40 <monerobull[m]> probably hard to reproduce
21:07:01 <monerobull[m]> im on a windows machine with 18 days of uptime and 24/7 xmr & eth mining
21:07:16 <selsta> so it's likely fixed
21:08:00 <monerobull[m]> nice, coming in the next 2 weeks i would assume?
21:08:22 <selsta> earlier
21:08:36 <selsta> 2 days or so
21:09:05 <monerobull[m]> will bring ledger nano+ support & p2pool, right?
21:09:31 <selsta> yes
21:10:16 <monerobull[m]> awesome :)
21:24:22 <nioc> monerobull[m]: you want to sell zcash stickers?  https://imgur.com/Ad6F7gE
21:24:43 <bridgerton[m]> <BobbedBort> oh boy
21:26:44 <monerobull[m]> i remember the thread on their forum. amazin
22:28:12 <cryptogrampy[m]> Idea- just use the zcash code without asking, then monero has to get delisted from exchanges or they get sued for hosting code that violates copyright.  
22:28:50 <cryptogrampy[m]> Seems like a win win
22:39:30 <reeemuru[m]> Ok so I think the permission errors are fixed with the poc for monero interactive developer guides. thx plowsof for your help. 🙏
22:39:30 <reeemuru[m]> Jupyter notebooks connect to the locally running stagenet monerod and wallet-rpc (hope it doesn't clobber, it is a shared wallet).  You should be able to write code with `monero-python` in your own notebooks, execute only access in the demo. No setup required. just GitHub for OAuth. still learning how to setup JupyterHub correctly so it is work in progress.
22:39:30 <reeemuru[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/316 
22:39:30 <reeemuru[m]> https://xmr-dev-guides.hiahatf.org/
23:07:51 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://twitter.com/spirobel/status/1519399392691703808
23:07:59 <cryptogrampy[m]> huge if real spirobel 
23:11:58 <reeemuru[m]> dope, i see a lot users asking for this