06:37:50 <Inge> new tx/day ATH a few days ago
10:15:33 <john_r365[m]> <sgp_> "> <@sgp_:monero.social> Recipien..." <- Question related to this. If there's a scenario where researcher/developer X is specialised at a certain task, and was interested in raising funding via MAGIC. However, for a variety of reasons they decided they would rather work through a company (we can think similar to how Sarang operated through CypherStack). Would it only be the company owner who needs to KYC to receive the
10:15:33 <john_r365[m]> funds? At which point they're able to distribute them as they see fit?
10:16:19 <john_r365[m]> ^ sgp_ 
12:49:58 <sgp_> <john_r365[m]> "Question related to this. If..." <- See https://magicgrants.org/funds/MAGIC%20Fund%20Grant%20Disbursement%20Process%20and%20Requirements.pdf
12:50:20 <sgp_> But yes, we can pay companies. We don't need to KYC every dev of a company, just the company
12:50:45 <sgp_> * the company and manager/large owners
12:54:24 <john_r365[m]> Thanks for the reply. Ok, seems like it may be a viable alternative for some scenarios. 
12:55:32 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Most people do businesses like this anyway. Funneling money through their business
12:55:45 <john_r365[m]> Also noted that you can fund non-US companies, with the requisite W-8BEN-E form filled out. 
13:30:49 <utxobr[m]> not sure if folks saw - https://boi.org.il/en/NewsAndPublications/PressReleases/Pages/20-6-22.aspx
13:31:10 <utxobr[m]> > the experiment examined an innovative technology that was recently released that enables policy makers to set a periodic threshold for digital payments that can be made anonymously, beyond which payments are documented in the system.  The findings of the experiment correspond with one of the motivations identified by the Steering Committee for the Potential Issuance of a Digital Shekel: providing the public with the option of using
13:31:10 <utxobr[m]> digital means of payment while maintaining some level of privacy, on condition that the rules set by the State authorities concerning the prohibition of money laundering and the financing of terrorism, and proper disclosure to the tax authorities, are adhered to.
13:32:15 <utxobr[m]> (found about it from https://twitter.com/vmwblockchain/status/1539243054703460355)
14:07:41 <Inge> !seen knifeofpi
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20:57:05 <r4v3r23[m]> has anyone had an issue where a node sometimes corrupts a wallets cache?
20:57:44 <r4v3r23[m]> having this issue on monerujo/shruum and want to know if its specific to that app or a monero problem
21:08:40 <ofrnxmr[m]1> <r4v3r23[m]> "having this issue on monerujo/..." <- App in my experience. Both corrupt the wallets during the "please wait" phase 
21:09:14 <ofrnxmr[m]1> When closing the wallet
21:11:02 <r4v3r23[m]> ofrnxmr[m]1: that part takes ages 
21:11:14 <r4v3r23[m]> sometimes i have to force stop the app
21:12:48 <ofrnxmr[m]1> r4v3r23[m]: Yeah. Sometimes it takes >1sec
21:12:48 <ofrnxmr[m]1> sometimes it wont finish
21:12:48 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Sometimes the wallet corrupts afterwards
21:12:48 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Its not the node, as changing nodes doesnt seem to help. 
21:13:25 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Example. The ability to set "No/a blank password" was disabled.
21:13:25 <ofrnxmr[m]1> I found a workaround. 
21:15:29 <ofrnxmr[m]1> I couldnt figure out what was going on. Giving the "invalid node" error after login (before the workaround)
21:15:29 <ofrnxmr[m]1> This leads me to believe the database is corrupt.
21:15:29 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Reset wallet fixes it with no changes to the node 
21:16:16 <r4v3r23[m]> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> I couldnt figure out what was going on. Giving the "invalid node" error after login (before the workaround)... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/5a7b055b20620a4f47364dadf86de740b6428eb9)
21:16:26 <r4v3r23[m]> trying to figure out the cause
21:17:34 <ofrnxmr[m]1> I only use my own node. Have the problem monthly
21:18:04 <r4v3r23[m]> and you have to reset the wallet yeah?
21:18:30 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Yeah, and it works again no problem.. until it goes into a loop during saving again
21:19:30 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Not a 100% fail rate when it doesnt save, but I *think* that is when monerujo and shruum corrupt the wallet data.
21:19:30 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Cake on the other hand does no sort of extended closing procedure 
21:20:03 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Be a good idea to ask mayumi why closing wallets is not instant / what is going on
21:20:16 <r4v3r23[m]> id rather deal with the corrupt files than use cake
21:20:34 <r4v3r23[m]> ofrnxmr[m]1: i will. its been getting on my nerves
21:22:28 <ofrnxmr[m]1> r4v3r23[m]: May I ask what your beefs are with cake?
21:22:28 <ofrnxmr[m]1> I have a few myself lol, but as of current shruum and monerujo are a PITA 
21:23:04 <r4v3r23[m]> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> May I ask what your beefs are with cake?
21:23:04 <r4v3r23[m]> > 
21:23:04 <r4v3r23[m]> > I have a few myself lol, but as of current shruum and monerujo are a PITA 
21:23:04 <r4v3r23[m]> i dont use compliant wallets with CEOs
21:23:46 <ofrnxmr[m]1> I dont care about the politics, I care about the code.
21:23:46 <ofrnxmr[m]1> And cake has some funny going ons
21:23:46 <r4v3r23[m]> im wondering if it has anything to do with v0.17.3.2 update. its been happening much more recently than before
21:25:34 <r4v3r23[m]> it seeps into the code
21:26:35 <ofrnxmr[m]1> I dont think so.
21:26:35 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Monerujo (and by extension shruum ) are the only wallets that behave like this upon closure (in my experience )
21:27:00 <r4v3r23[m]> i was referring to the politics
21:27:46 <r4v3r23[m]> right so its an app specific issue
21:28:15 <r4v3r23[m]> ill ask aki next time i chat with them
21:32:12 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Ill say it here. There is already a of fud surrounding cake. I dont care about the fud.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9bc63aa4f6787c3a527bda919d0786972e5d1629)
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