12:07:25 <maki3000[m]> Yo! MoneroGang!
12:07:25 <maki3000[m]> I'd like to support all of you a bit. I'm mostly webDev and a bit a designer. Maybe we could make the layout of the monero pages a bit fresher? Don't get me wrong. I think, the layout is very good, but a bit boring. Please write me, if somebody is interested...
12:12:14 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Referring to getmonero.org? maki3000: 
12:50:17 <maki3000[m]> ofrnxmr: yes, mostly getmonero.org. Before I also found kind of a monero community page, but I can’t find this one anymore.
13:02:53 <ofrnxmr[m]1> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site
13:10:25 <w[m]> Erciccione: "I have an open ccs for working on the website that is going very slowly - i'm pretty busy lately"
13:10:25 <w[m]> Also Erciccione:
13:10:25 <w[m]> "it's a bit concerning to see that in the meantime getmonero.org is basically abandoned" 👻
13:18:06 <maki3000[m]> ofrnxmr: does that mean, I should propose a layout and make a PR?
13:33:53 <ofrnxmr[m]1> Seth For Privacy: would be a better person to ask than myself
13:46:28 <merope> maki3000: anyone can open a PR at any time. Just make sure to coordinate with the people running the website, so that they know what you're doing, and your work won't go to waste
14:01:14 <plowsof[m]> consensus : leave our website alone, its great the way it is . if you challenge this you won't get very far 
14:07:40 <spirobel[m]> <plowsof[m]> "consensus : leave our website..." <- maybe it is good to make another one. that is how it done in monero... the old can never be changed. Just pile new stuff on top until the old is not visible anymore. that is the only way to proceed. Probably applies to open source in general
14:08:03 <spirobel[m]> * how it is done in
14:14:05 <nioc> w[m]: looks like you have found a purpose in life 
14:14:59 <plowsof[m]> i spent 1~2 weeks messing around with the website, and let me tell you, some of the manual labour tasks i seen , i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. and you also have to deal with some po4a thing that creates translation files but the version used on the website currently was just not reproducible for me (alot of small differences) 
14:15:25 <w[m]> nioc: Whats that? 
14:16:09 <plowsof[m]> i did contribute some 'manual labour--' for creating a guide / adding a faq item though https://github.com/plowsof/userguide-drafts/tree/main/helper-scripts/make-a-guide https://github.com/plowsof/userguide-drafts/tree/main/helper-scripts/add-a-faq
14:16:47 <w[m]> Erciccione doesnt need a spokesperson. Maki asked about the website, erciccione recently said he was the one getting paid for it.
14:16:47 <w[m]> 🐟
14:17:31 <nioc> are there dates for those quotes?
14:18:21 <w[m]> Yes. Would you like me to pull the links? 
14:18:21 <w[m]> They are word for word from his twitter 
14:18:59 <nioc> there are words and then there is context 
14:20:32 <w[m]> https://twitter.com/calciferciccio/status/1522513069703901184
14:20:43 <nioc> I don't use twitter but they were also said in IRC or at least read on IRC from any one of many bridges 
14:20:45 <w[m]> The series of posts are here
14:21:08 <plowsof[m]> i use to think 'just update the site' but then i actually worked on it and i have ptsd 
14:21:22 <nioc> plowsof[m]: 0_O
14:21:35 <spirobel[m]> <plowsof[m]> "i spent 1~2 weeks messing around..." <- it is a jeykll website, right?
14:22:03 <plowsof[m]> Yep 👍️ with po4a / weblate witchcraft to do translations
14:22:31 <spirobel[m]> plowsof[m]: maybe we should switch to something like strapi. static sites are bloated garbage. 
14:23:18 <spirobel[m]> I also worked with jeykll before lol
14:23:49 <nioc> reminds me, I left monero-site for my trip and should rejoin
14:24:23 <nioc> let me check the list 
14:24:28 <nioc> hmmmm
14:24:38 <spirobel[m]> spirobel[m]: (also built a website using jekyll with multiple languages and get the links to connect properly aka you dont jump back to the mainpage when switching languages ...)
14:25:00 <spirobel[m]> s/get/got/
14:26:20 <spirobel[m]> plowsof[m]: the thing is: maybe for a small blog that one technical person maintains jeykll can be okay... but with multiple people that might not be technical and added translations it just becomes too complex and it is better to have a normal cms
14:27:49 <spirobel[m]> <plowsof[m]> "i did contribute some 'manual..." <- wow this looks painful.....
14:28:28 <spirobel[m]> basically a handmade CMS haha
14:28:58 <plowsof[m]> when the readme says "A step by step guide would be too complex to follow." its time to make your own CMS  
14:31:15 <spirobel[m]> plowsof[m]: maybe we can just select one of the shelf...and then write an import script. 
14:51:46 <cryptogrampy[m]> Would love to see this happen and happy to help with the effort :) 
15:41:41 <maki3000[m]> endor00: 👍 thanks 
15:42:16 <maki3000[m]> plowsof: okay 😅 I may still try…
15:46:33 <maki3000[m]> BTW: thinking about CMSs -> I like https://wintercms.com 
15:54:47 <cryptogrampy[m]> ofrnxmr: you can be discriminated against at a shop in a closed system if people know that you previously donated to X religion or political cause
15:55:00 <cryptogrampy[m]> your wallet is associated with X Y or Z
15:56:24 <plowsof[m]> "whats the point of privacy, im a photographer and-" 👍️ 
15:56:45 <plowsof[m]> https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1PlJQambDyqJE
15:57:19 <cryptogrampy[m]> <maki3000[m]> "BTW: thinking about CMSs -> I..." <- check out 11ty, hugo and jekyll 
15:57:36 <cryptogrampy[m]> i'd try to go with something very popular with good out of the box features
17:27:59 <spirobel[m]> <cryptogrampy[m]> "check out 11ty, hugo and jekyll..." <- hm...it is already jekyll atm i think. Static site generators are just not the right solution for a situation where multiple users (especially non technical ones and translators) need to be able to edit and add content.
17:28:43 <spirobel[m]> <maki3000[m]> "BTW: thinking about CMSs -> I..." <- why do you like it?
17:29:25 <spirobel[m]> <cryptogrampy[m]> "i'd try to go with something..." <- for example wordpress 
17:32:32 <spirobel[m]> we could also try a headless cms like strapi if that is too bloat haha
18:00:16 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 125: June 16 - 23, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-125.html