01:29:35 <plowsof> if you talk here ooo123ooo1234567 your social credits will += to 100 (a light hearted request to continue conversation here with a touch of sarcastic humour at the end)
01:54:59 <whiskey00[m]> Check out Monero Circular Economy Development on Meetup https://meetup.com/cyberpunk-cryptop
02:05:55 <whiskey00[m]> I started a meet up in NYC / Jersey to help people meet and interact in the space
02:06:15 <whiskey00[m]> Always welcome, wanting to see if there is any interest 
02:06:38 <whiskey00[m]> if you arent in the tri-state area, still feel free to spread the word 
07:09:08 <rbrunner> "if you talk here ooo123ooo1234567 your social credits will += to 100" Dear plowsof, I want to check my balance :)
07:09:18 <rbrunner> No, seriously, +1 for me to continue communication with ooo: It's not easy, it had a very rough start, but I still think it's worth it
07:10:43 <ooo123ooo1234567> would you like to do it from fresh account without any connection to your real identity ?
07:10:53 <ooo123ooo1234567> just to prove that you're interesting in result and not any social credit
07:12:12 <ooo123ooo1234567> s/interesting/interested/
07:16:26 <rbrunner> Well, that story with the "social credit" was written by plowsof half seriously / half jokingly, and I did likewise. I am not *really* interested in "social credit"
07:16:39 <rbrunner> Like you, I tend to focus on results, or at least I try to
07:17:35 <rbrunner> Some people like to find problems, some people like to talk about problems, I like to try to solve hard problems
07:19:48 <rbrunner> I see "finding a sound and solid foundation for you and the rest of the Monero dev community to work together fruitfully" as such a hard problem
11:30:05 <dsc_> everything that ooo touches should go through maximum scrutiny
11:32:52 <dsc_> in terms of code going in
12:21:17 <sech1> dsc_ All code going in should go through maximum scrutiny, we never know if someone has been compromised or not
14:10:39 <CidadoisAncap[m]> Hello guys
14:16:48 <bridgerton[m]> <Encore> Hello guy
15:44:19 <nioc> ask not what monero can do for you   
15:44:25 <nioc> ask, what can I do for monero?
15:44:55 <nioc> *ask not, what can monero do for you?
15:58:03 <rbrunner> Originally I had in mind to continue here a chat with ooo123ooo1234567 that started earlier today around here: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-dev/20220703#c116467
15:58:13 <rbrunner> Several questions were left "hanging in the air"
15:58:50 <rbrunner> But I feel somehow the chance passed for a good follow-on. I intend to wait until a more natural chance presents itself to continue discussion
16:21:12 <kowalabearhugs[m> Will the core team release a yearly general fund report this summer? 
16:22:07 <kowalabearhugs[m> It has been ~1 year since the last report,  https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/o5jlhf/general_fund_20202021_report/
16:45:35 <dsc_> ah yes, the infamous big whale donor and rockstar community developer "KowalabearHugs" wants to see some financial accountability
16:50:32 <kowalabearhugs[m> dsc_: I don't understand the reason for your snarky reply, but sure... as community members in a community driven project, yes, there should be yearly dev/general fund report from core
16:51:00 <dukenukem> another accountant.
16:51:59 <dsc_> "there should be"? you are owed nothing
16:52:00 <kowalabearhugs[m> dukenukem: another community member
16:52:24 <dukenukem> kowalabearhugs[m: precisely. ogs over randos larping as accountants. :)
16:52:29 <rbrunner> "That escalated quickly" comes to mind.
16:52:30 <dsc_> dont like the GF? start your own fund
16:53:46 <kowalabearhugs[m> dsc_: Your assumptions are baseless. I like the GF
16:53:50 <nioc> I think the point is that it was done last year so a reasonable expectation is that it will be this year
16:54:13 <kowalabearhugs[m> Reports have been issued in previous years. I'm wondering if we might see one this summer
16:54:54 <nioc> I don't know about years but at least year  :)
16:55:06 <dsc_> is it the highlight of your year kowalabearhugs?
16:55:33 <nioc> why aren't you spending the money?
16:56:05 <kowalabearhugs[m> nioc: I believe there were such reports in both 2021 and 2020: https://www.getmonero.org/2021/06/24/general-fund-2020-2021-report.html and https://www.getmonero.org/2020/06/30/gf-transparency-report.html
16:56:45 <dukenukem> Thanks for the news, Mr.
16:56:46 <nioc> I am at the point where time stands still  :D
16:56:56 <kowalabearhugs[m> dsc_: Blocked
16:57:26 <nioc> I block nobody  <3
16:57:39 <rbrunner> :)
16:57:41 <dsc_> the IRC terminology is "ignored"
16:57:46 <dsc_> ... :P
16:58:17 <nioc> dsc_: I also don't ignore, at least by automated processes 
17:01:28 <kowalabearhugs[m> I didn't think it would be controversial to ask about said report. I'm certainly not making demands, just curious if we'll see something this summer because i feel it puts the project in a good light
17:01:48 <nioc> yeah there should be one but I am sure it is not on top of the list of things for core to do 
17:02:10 <kowalabearhugs[m> The transparency, that is. And it's nice to see the state of the GF. Funds were accumulating and that is positive
17:02:24 <dsc_> fed.
17:02:35 <dukenukem> Use the fucking viewkey and start crunching the numbers yourself.
17:02:40 <dukenukem> Fuck off.
17:02:52 <nioc> sigh
17:03:52 <kowalabearhugs[m> Much hostility from community members 
17:04:03 <nioc> he is special  :)
17:04:49 <kayabanerve[m]> View key is no where near sufficient for this.
17:04:54 <nioc> ^^
17:05:33 <dukenukem> I mean, you are the one asking for the report so hard. If you want something done, do it yourself.
17:05:55 <kayabanerve[m]> Beyond the guarantee of the key images, there's no explanation of where funds went. Just that they were sent.
17:06:11 <rbrunner> So, kowalabear-hugs versus duke-nuke'm: Nukes win against hugs. At least verbally.
17:06:24 <kayabanerve[m]> ... even with the key images, that still wouldn't have the relevant information
17:07:38 <kowalabearhugs[m> dukenukem: "asking for the report so hard" This is the only conversation I've initiated about said report and, as previously stated, " I'm certainly not making demands, just curious if we'll see something this summer because i feel it puts the project in a good light"
17:07:44 <nioc> dukenukem: thx for reminding me to give Cat some catnip, will be feeling happier now
17:07:52 <dukenukem> nioc: yw.
17:08:07 <dukenukem> kowalabearhugs[m: Okay. Thanks for your concern.
17:08:57 <kowalabearhugs[m> dukenukem: Thanks for listening
17:26:17 <dukenukem> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/298#note_17010
20:40:17 <plowsof> here is plowsofs official GF report: we had some donations, and continue to spend around 2k$ / month on infrastructure
20:43:03 <nioc> AIUI some donators are paying for infrastructure directly 
20:44:41 <nioc> *some infrastructure 
20:44:45 <nioc> .bbl
20:45:02 <plowsof> yeah , im only aware of majesticbank paying for 3 months infra (6kusd)
20:46:12 <plowsof> i would never want to be in charge of any kind of fund, zero benefits to yourself and you get accused of all kinds of things without fail every 12~14 months 
20:52:42 <kowalabearhugs[m> the benefit is they're a trusted party, when their skills are in demand someone will reach out
20:53:10 <kowalabearhugs[m> I was aware of the majesticbank donations. Nice people those majestics
20:55:22 <plowsof> the report will be done soon(tm) don't worry, the last one was also a bit late
20:55:46 <kowalabearhugs[m> kowalabearhugs[m: Or at-least tactically aware
21:01:15 <kowalabearhugs[m> <plowsof> "i would never want to be in..." <- I've not seen many accusations towards GF in the past 12-14 months. 
21:02:12 <kowalabearhugs[m> Certainly nothing notable. They seem to be keeping a low profile and doing a good job.