01:01:56 <plowsof> they called Monero a shitcoin ☹️
01:14:05 <nioc> something something Egyptian creation myth 
04:08:14 <ArticMine[m]> plowsof:  Who did?
07:41:19 <r4v3r23[m]> > <@jberman:matrix.org> implemented it in the core repo so it can be used by all wallets. just needs final touches: https://github.com/j-berman/monero/commit/238ea538f218ad447808c6806386a73bb1ab0fd5
07:41:19 <r4v3r23[m]> > 
07:41:19 <r4v3r23[m]> > I was getting familiar with monerujo to understand how/where it would be used there + to test end-to-end
07:41:19 <r4v3r23[m]> excellent
07:56:33 <plowsof> ArticMine in a comment from 2019 when they (BTCpayserver) where adding Monero support they mentioned it 😦 i am not surprised some critical bugs existed with their implementation  https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver/pull/1044#discussion_r329030173
11:13:02 <netrik182> does anyone know if pigeons is still around? I tried DMing them on both matrix and irc about 2 weeks ago, no luck so far
17:54:03 <DiegoSalazar[m]> <netrik182> "does anyone know if pigeons is..." <- I can contact pigeons
17:59:05 <netrik182> thank you DiegoSalazar[m], I'd like him to take a look on our weblate instance, if possible
17:59:14 <netrik182> I can dm you details if needed
18:01:02 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Go for it. 
19:39:04 <kinghat[m]> Diego!
19:39:20 <kinghat[m]> 😘
22:37:49 <kayabaNerve> MAGIC was discussing https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/252, specifically stepping in for the remaining funding in a USD centric way to avoid a repeat of the current issue. We wanted to check the community's thoughts on Molly and its CCS before doing so
22:45:58 <valldrac[m]> <kayabaNerve> "MAGIC was discussing https://..." <- Molly's lead developer here. Feel free to ask me any question about the CCS
22:47:32 <kayabanerve[m]> Hey! Just to clarify, we were planning on reaching out directly after checking with the community, and there would still be a few discussions about funding. I don't want to over-represent here, yet you're more than welcome to share any further comments you have on the CCS now if you have any you want to :)
22:48:07 <kayabanerve[m]> Or if you're not interested in reaching out for a MAGIC grant to be able to complete the above work, I can drop the discussion entirely.
22:52:29 <Rucknium[m]> Those of us on the MAGIC Monero Func committee, which includes me, know that the community has strong opinions about the process of funding research and development. We wanted to see what people think before committing to anything.
22:59:14 <valldrac[m]> <kayabanerve[m]> "Or if you're not interested in..." <- I didn't know this was even a possibility 😅 That would improve the current situation for sure... let's see what the community says. About the project, it's work in progress and I'm 100% confident we will deliver it. However we cannot commit to any specific deadline
23:06:45 <valldrac[m]> The project is suffering from poor planning and lack of workforce. That's the bad news. The good news are that there are no technical blockers and we are satisfied with what it has been done until now
23:30:39 <plowsof> No milestones for that proposal have been paid out yet right? So do MAGIC want to 'make up the shortfall' / top the milestone payments up with USD if/when they are to be paid out?
23:32:33 <plowsof> is this like a guarentee to the molly team that for example, when milestone 1 is completed they get their '22xmr' and magic will top it up to the correct USD value? etc
23:32:45 <plowsof> guarantee* 
23:47:28 <kayabanerve[m]> We'd have to discuss the exact terms.  That would be our initial expectation, yet our current grant is over a temporal unit. While we're indifferent, it may be preferable to redefine in months to offer planning, and they may be an upfront portion discussed. It'd depend on their end, but we wanted to discuss the opinions of the ccs proposal itself
23:48:45 <kayabanerve[m]> There was also one idea briefly mentioned, about taking over the CCS's funding, with all relevant approvals, and becoming the issuer of milestones, yet I believe that's too much of a minefield to reasonably discuss. While it could help offer simplicity and certainty, it has too many people needing to chime in