00:00:57 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Yeah those blocks say 3,000ish transactions yet you are saying empty and 200-300 transactions 00:01:32 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Iβm just trying to figure where or when you only 200-300 00:01:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Check tomorrow 00:02:03 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Because all the small squares are supposed to be real txβs right? 00:02:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Go look at a different day. . Lol. 00:02:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Smh 00:02:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> You're lookigng at the last like, 2 hours. We've been going in circled for 8 00:03:09 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (53KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/UphPaonsaBKAODDQamKlJkZT/Imagepipe_241.jpg > 00:03:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> You see when they added all these fake tx ? Lol. 2 hrs ago 00:03:34 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> No kidding 00:03:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> See the green line? 00:03:44 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Wow you seem to have been right on everything. 00:03:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thats the real number 00:03:59 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> The green line is your 200-300 number right? 00:05:09 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> It looks like itβs closer to 500 maybe but I get your point. 00:05:19 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> This is a pretty big pill to swallow 00:05:54 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> What is a fab order? And wow yeah you guys are both right 00:06:14 <killswitch[m]> when you design and place a giant order for an asic run 00:06:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, I dont know what the actual value of the green line is 00:06:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> But 2-300 is my π test 00:06:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> The chart seems to show something closet to 700. 00:06:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont trust my 200#. Again, its not exact, just what I see at a glance when I check (regularly) 00:06:36 <killswitch[m]> pulling the asic trigger is massively capital intensive :) 00:06:50 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Gotcha 00:06:58 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Yep I see 00:07:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> But its not what we see right niwbwith every block completely full and all of the mining pools Chinese 00:07:45 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (58KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/FDoPCwZiyHBbMipuTtPMlrab/Imagepipe_242.jpg > 00:08:34 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> I donβt follow what you said here? 00:08:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> The mempool us getting bigger as we talk and fees arent rising 00:09:15 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> So if there are 500 real txβs per block then 6 blocks per hour times 24 hours x 500 tx = only about 72,000 real tx per day. 00:09:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> bridgerton[m]: Those are the pools that found the latest blocks (with all the bonus fees) 00:09:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> So.. they are making their money back 00:09:39 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Because price is pumping now right 00:10:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> bridgerton[m]: I told ya.. mining manipulation on fees = good indicator for a market move 00:10:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero mining manipulation in fees = get punished and lose those extra fees 00:10:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Aka dont flood our network. Real tx only 00:10:59 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Yea I looked in some of the previous blocks that were mined and I saw at least one or two mined those big ass txβs. So a pool probably mined his own there. 00:11:49 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> What do you look for specifically as an indicator? 00:14:17 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> So there are only about 72,000 real tx per day and many of these are probably just speculators trying to capture price moves? I guess I could see this being the case that people donβt really use Bitcoin. When I hear McAfee say that I thought he was just being biasedβ¦. 00:14:48 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> If all of this is true, then why is Bitcoins price still so high? Is it an attempt to sucker in more people for institutions and whales to dump on? 00:18:44 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> And once again the TLDR is that the only people paying those massive in early 2021 where speculators on price moves. Not people actually using L1 bitcoin for transactions. 00:18:54 <al800[m]1> That explain how I got bumped out of blocks so many times. 00:18:54 <al800[m]1> (1 block buffer, send a payment with max fee, block inflate, my TX fail of it then someone that 0 block mempool endup into a 30 blocks mempool and I endup waiting 12 hours) 00:19:02 <al800[m]1> s/someone/somehow/ 00:19:22 <al800[m]1> I have using BTC network, just annoying to use 00:19:29 <al800[m]1> s/have/hate/ 00:20:04 <al800[m]1> Always have to worry... Is my TX gonna get thru or I have to wait 2hr+ 00:20:56 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> This actually happened to you? 00:21:04 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Oh wow 00:21:15 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> I am really disillusioned with Bitcoin now 00:21:45 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> The only unanswered question is why the price is so high given that all this manipulation occurs 00:28:59 <plowsof> rename room to BTC community and make josh OP 00:31:29 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Hahaha 00:31:35 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Plowsof the sarcastic 00:31:44 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> I am satisfied now 00:32:04 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> But why BTC price so high? Just to Ponzi/lure in more people? 00:32:28 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> So Monero gonna make it and bitcoin not gonna make it 00:32:43 <killswitch[m]> it's a swimming pool to lure in accredited investors, it's big by necessity 00:33:14 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> So it will die eventually, right 00:33:16 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Just hard to say when 00:33:44 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> I definitely have a greater appreciation of Monero now 00:47:31 <nioc> We don't talk monero price here. Why should we talk btc price here? 00:48:14 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Fair enough 00:56:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> So... Josh.. ya running a monero node? 01:04:48 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Not yet 01:23:27 <al800[m]1> Everyone here should have at lease one Monero node 01:23:35 <al800[m]1> pruned at the limit, don't even take 50GB 01:24:25 <al800[m]1> Be sure to have it fully accessible from the net (not NATted or CNATted) as Dandelion++ don't work on natted nodes (of port not forwarded) 01:24:36 <al800[m]1> s/of/if/ 01:28:06 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> You gotta be careful with which ports you have open right? 01:28:28 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> What makes you say this? 01:29:55 <al800[m]1> depend of what you're use for the node is. 01:29:55 <al800[m]1> You want only to participate on the network and let you're TX thru, then open only 18080 01:29:55 <al800[m]1> If you want outsider to use the node for there TX, also open 18081 01:30:19 <al800[m]1> I put mine so everyone can use it and also made it available as a tor hidden service 01:31:25 <al800[m]1> if you don't have 18080 open, other node won't be able to connect so as Dandelion++ won't work. Problem with that latter (no port open option) is that while it work for you to use to send TX, it' won't help the monero network and also outside observer will be able to detect when you are sending a payment 01:31:46 <al800[m]1> if you have 18080 open, then you're not participate in the network and outsider can know when you send a payment 01:31:56 <al800[m]1> s/not/participating/, s/participate// 01:32:09 <al800[m]1> * if you have 18080 open, then you're participating in the network and outsider can't know when you send a payment 01:32:53 <al800[m]1> 18081 is only for other people to use, like say, they can set you're node in feather-wallet for the node to use for them to send payment 01:36:04 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Understood thank you for the thorough explanation of the difference between no port, port 18080 and port 18081 01:37:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> 18080 = p2p blockchain sync 01:37:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> 18081 = unrestricted rpc port (for wallet access) 01:39:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its better to add a restricted bind port to 18089 and leave 18081 alone (only accessible from locslhost). 01:39:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you have a spare / old android phone, TV or tablet laying around, with recommended 64+gb free space you can run a node painlessly 01:42:39 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Sounds good 01:42:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> If running a clearnet node you SHOULD open 18080, though it isnt strictly necessary. 01:42:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> If running a tor node for privacy, leave it closed. 01:56:19 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Alrighty 01:57:06 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Just out of curiosityβs sake, could Moneroβs entire set of nodes and users operate over TOR? 02:01:20 <real_me[m]> I donβt see why not 02:03:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> <bridgerton[m]> "<joshhavepigdog> Just out of..." <- No 02:08:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero's anonymity network supports doesnt allow incoming connections for blockchain synchronization 02:08:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Everybody has to connect to the people with incoming connections available. One of the two parties have to have incoming available.. 02:08:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> But there id talk of allowing blockchain sync over onion. Currently its not implemented for s few reasons.. clearnet nodes dont talk to onion nodes and vice versa. 02:08:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> You need to force tor on everybody if you want make sure you dont have 2 networks that dont talk to each other. 02:32:34 <bridgerton[m]> <joshhavepigdog> Gotcha. Yeah it seems tricky. 08:01:38 <johnfoss68[m]> https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-50 08:02:00 <johnfoss68[m]> The Monero Moon Issue 50 is out now! 08:03:20 <greatgoodfineok[> Hello π I'm looking to contact the admins of the monero.social matrix server which I was told was probably managed by the same people of the matrix libera.chat server. Could anyone tell me who to contact or help me? Thank you :) 15:15:10 <CidadoisAncap[m]> <johnfoss68[m]> "https://www.themoneromoon.com/p..." <- Hi johnππ 16:25:39 <bridgerton[m]> <π²π΄πππ»π΄πΎππ> good stuff 16:25:44 <bridgerton[m]> <π²π΄πππ»π΄πΎππ> i hope v18 has apple silicon builsd 16:25:47 <bridgerton[m]> s/builsd/builds/ 16:25:59 <bridgerton[m]> <π²π΄πππ»π΄πΎππ> π₯Ί 17:20:51 <selsta> v0.18 CLI does have an Apple Silicon build 17:20:53 <selsta> GUI not yet 17:35:39 <bridgerton[m]> <π²π΄πππ»π΄πΎππ> feels bad man 17:39:44 <gingeropolous> sethforprivacy, it *is* pruning... and its also sharding/striping. It's pruning for your local sense - a node can still verify transactions coming in. 17:40:32 <kinghat[m]> how much do tx fees go up after the fork? 17:41:10 <gingeropolous> bout tree fitty 17:41:16 <gingeropolous> i dunno 17:42:46 <kinghat[m]> miners or anyone with a lot of small txs should send full balance to self prefork i would assume? 17:43:34 <gingeropolous> i mean, if your on p2pool and you really care about savings on fees then yeah prolly 17:43:52 <sech1> you can go full hardcore mode and mine your own tx with 0 fees 17:44:00 <gingeropolous> personally im saving my p2pool dust wallet for when i only need to use one output 17:44:01 <sech1> tx fee is not part of consensus 17:45:02 <sech1> I mean, you could just mine your own transaction in solo and get the fee back (+0.6 XMR block reward) :D 17:46:02 <kinghat[m]> free energy has been harnessed? 17:48:11 <merope> how would one mine their own transactions, in practical terms? what kind of changes would it require to the core software? 17:49:40 <nioc> kinghat[m]: a 4 or 5x increase for base fee 17:50:17 <kinghat[m]> tell us your secrets, sech! 17:50:22 <nioc> Will then be almost 1 cent for a tx o_0 17:50:54 <kinghat[m]> taxation is theft! 17:51:34 <sech1> you can mine your own transactions, if you're very patient. Or you have 10 MH/s mining farm :P 17:52:25 <merope> right, but would you have to make any changes to the tx relaying code? 17:52:26 <kinghat[m]> fine, nioc, ill pay it but ive got my ποΈ on you. 17:52:46 <nioc> Excellent 17:53:04 <merope> or would you have to resubmit the same tx over and over until you mine it? (assuming you don't get it in less than 24h) 17:53:39 <sech1> some changes might be needed to not broadcast this tx 18:08:52 <gingeropolous> couldn't you modify your p2pool to create the block? 18:09:06 <gingeropolous> well i guess with p2pool, you would just need to modify monerod 18:09:43 <gingeropolous> well, all the members of the p2pool would have to modify monerod 18:09:52 <gingeropolous> fun 18:10:06 <sech1> p2pool already creates the block, monerod just feeds it with required data 18:10:51 <gingeropolous> well, so is p2pool checking the validity of the block? i.e., is it checking that all the txs have the min network relay fee? 18:10:59 <sech1> monerod checks that 18:11:09 <gingeropolous> right 18:11:19 <gingeropolous> this could be an interesting incentive for small homer miners to join a p2pool 18:11:35 <gingeropolous> "mine on this p2pool, and lower your transaction costs!" 18:11:42 <sech1> so if some miners modified it to accept 0 fee, it could work 18:12:02 <sech1> but then some measures need to be taken to avoid spam 18:12:50 <gingeropolous> well each p2pool could have its own consensus regarding the number of allowed "free" txs 18:13:09 <gingeropolous> it'd be like each p2pool has its own mini consensus 18:15:47 <gingeropolous> hrm, the gui for this could get complicated. imagine in the GUI, there's a checkbox for "mine to lower your tx fee" ... hrm.... 18:16:14 <sech1> the problem is it's impossible to force all miners to modify their monerod 18:16:24 <sech1> so it's better to leave as is 18:16:28 <gingeropolous> well sure 18:17:01 <gingeropolous> but u can imagine a future client software that offers reduced monero fees by just mining. and its all prettied up and easy 18:17:05 <sech1> some big p2pool miners could probably provide their own transaction pusher 18:17:16 <sech1> like xmrvsbeast :D 18:17:22 <sech1> like https://xmrchain.net/rawtx 18:17:35 <sech1> so you could push 0 fee tx to their nodes and get it mined within a few hours 18:17:52 <gingeropolous> yeah i remember trying to do that when we had the backpack problem with the 13kb tx 18:18:10 <sech1> backpack problem? 18:18:54 <gingeropolous> knapsack problem. sorry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knapsack_problem 18:19:20 <sech1> I actually implemented the optimal knapsack algorithm for p2pool, but it was too slow 18:20:16 <gingeropolous> nice. is it up? could be a useful addition to monerod at some point, with some flag -superknapsack=TRUE 18:20:21 <sech1> like 0.02-0.05 seconds to create a block template 18:21:22 <sech1> it's in p2pool code, but it's #ifdef'd - https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/blob/master/src/block_template.cpp#L582 18:22:06 <sech1> the advantage over the approximation that p2pool uses is usually no more than 1-5 micronero 18:22:15 <sech1> so it's pointless to switch 18:24:42 <gingeropolous> not now :) 18:37:44 <CidadoisAncap[m]> https://twitter.com/CidadaoAncapist/status/1547619851623010304?t=08k5u3cz3ejAGr8SOZqIqg&s=19 18:40:38 <Rucknium[m]> Having different minrelayfee policies across the node network threatens 0-conf reliability. See 18:40:38 <Rucknium[m]> https://bitcoincashresearch.org/search?q=0-conf+topic%3A440 18:41:17 <Rucknium[m]> What you are suggesting is a bit different, but I wanted to say that taking it to the extreme has significant consequences 18:41:41 <r4v3r23[m]> CidadoisAncap[m]: "violence is impossible"... nice utopia.. 20:00:16 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 128: July 7 - 14, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-128.html 20:14:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> cryptogrampy: 20:14:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> New mymonero wallet is out 20:14:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> And people say revuo is a waste π₯². Always something in there that I missed 20:15:26 <cryptogrampy[m]> oh i've been testing it :) They added in the fix I suggested that allows the mobile apps to connect to custom servers 20:15:36 <cryptogrampy[m]> lots of bugs though 20:16:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, im Reding the issue threads now π« 20:16:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> s/Reding/reading/ 20:30:43 <cryptogrampy[m]> I think they may have broken enough stuff implementing this thing that they're going to have to bust ass to get even their own stuff working correctly 20:31:05 <cryptogrampy[m]> I need to test if they mymonero api works still... hopefully not 20:31:27 <cryptogrampy[m]> i'm very excited to have custom server support though π 20:32:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Would be like brilliant if they ran an lws to test it first, aye aye? Nah. 20:32:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Everybody, no beta testing. Just ship your wallets untested π₯². 20:32:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its rough out here 20:32:58 <cryptogrampy[m]> Seriously. I don't know how they could possibly release this thing in this state 20:33:09 <cryptogrampy[m]> It seems like they literally didn't test anything 20:33:19 <cryptogrampy[m]> I've offered use of my LWS server too 20:33:47 <endogenic> hey sweet you run a LWS. that's good to know 20:34:30 <cryptogrampy[m]> hello LWS big brain :) 20:34:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Doxxing view keys to begin with. L o l. 20:34:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cake doesnt test anything on android either. So doesnt surprise me that mymonero doesnt either 20:35:02 <endogenic> LWS big brain? :P 20:35:15 <cryptogrampy[m]> endogenic: there's been some work on making it easier to run LWS- you've probably seen the dockerfile issue and it recently got added to xmr.sh 20:35:24 <endogenic> yes 20:35:31 <endogenic> i have my own work on that which i can publish shortly 20:35:50 <cryptogrampy[m]> I'd really like to see the start_height thing get added somewhere to the API 20:35:59 <endogenic> i think the LWS is valuable and has a place but it can take a few refinements that me and j berman and a couple others have been cooking up 20:36:16 <endogenic> exactly. sweet. i have a great suggestion for that 20:36:28 <endogenic> will write it up for the meta spec 20:36:29 <cryptogrampy[m]> Yeah it's rough at the moment but solves probably the biggest UX problems of monero 20:36:41 <endogenic> there are alternatives 20:36:43 <endogenic> i have much to share :) 20:36:56 <cryptogrampy[m]> i also like that it caters to Uncle Jim hosting for friends and family 20:37:05 <endogenic> you mean cryptogrampy hosting? 20:37:09 <endogenic> hm 20:37:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> I would like to monitor my grandson's incoming tx's. I suspect he's selling Wownerochan nudes to classmates 20:37:17 <endogenic> more like... precryptogrampy 20:37:27 <endogenic> cryptogrampy you should know that that's wrong 20:37:44 <endogenic> just because cryptography exists doesn't mean you have sufficient justification to use it to selectively apply human rights 20:38:03 <shermand100[m]> cryptogrampy[m]: Just saying PiNodeXMR has LWS too 20:38:24 <cryptogrampy[m]> Wownerochan's booba's are unnaturally large and quite addictive-not meant for human consumption and my grandson doesn't have the right to look at them all the time 20:38:32 <endogenic> i see your point, Chinese government 20:38:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wow. Dont say that in haveno chat 20:38:49 <cryptogrampy[m]> The limited view key Jamtis thing will be awesome though 20:39:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> In the meantime, let's get LWS infrastructure and clients solidified 20:39:22 <endogenic> don't worry 20:39:25 <endogenic> they are 20:39:34 <endogenic> they're just... stealth.... 20:39:46 <endogenic> being a solo founder is tough on its own lol 20:39:53 <cryptogrampy[m]> Would really like to see Tor/socks proxy get added to MyMonero wallet 20:39:55 <endogenic> but yeah, the blockers there are virtually gone now 20:39:56 <endogenic> almost 20:40:08 <endogenic> yeah there's an issue on the mymonero app repo 20:40:13 <cryptogrampy[m]> endogenic: I don't have much longer on this earth 20:40:26 <endogenic> you're just trying to get me to think you're not one of google's AIs 20:40:29 <CidadoisAncap[m]> How much bigger will the xmr seraphis tx size be? 20:40:45 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://github.com/Start9Labs/capacitor-http 20:40:58 <endogenic> ooh nice 20:41:07 <cryptogrampy[m]> so start9 rolled their own capacitor http library that supports tor 20:41:09 <endogenic> lol ionic tho 20:41:17 <endogenic> yeah we should rip some stuff out 20:41:25 <endogenic> librarify 20:41:30 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://github.com/Start9Labs/capacitor-tor 20:41:47 <endogenic> wen i2p tho 20:41:51 <endogenic> can i revive kovri pls 20:42:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Might get a faster answer in #monero-research-lounge:monero.social 20:42:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Koe isnt in here 20:42:15 <endogenic> wait, koe is working on i2p? 20:42:28 <endogenic> oh 20:42:30 <endogenic> nevermind 20:42:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont think so? 20:43:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Oh, mybad. I replied in thread to someone else 20:43:04 <endogenic> no worries 20:43:08 <endogenic> also mine 20:43:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Perfect daemon and Hyc want to work on snob networks 20:43:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anon* netoworks 20:43:37 <endogenic> snob networks lolz 20:44:30 <cryptogrampy[m]> monero el too snob net 20:44:50 <endogenic> lol ya 20:44:56 <cryptogrampy[m]> When can I take your work out for a test run endogenic 20:45:20 <endogenic> just waiting on my attorney changing something about the corp and then i should basically have the green light 20:45:28 <endogenic> doing things on a very shoestring budget lol 20:45:43 * cryptogrampy[m] uploaded an image: (523KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/ANEahkjntCxynkpjWjFVDYlp/image.png > 20:45:45 <endogenic> but i have plans 20:45:56 <endogenic> damn nice ride grampy 20:46:33 <cryptogrampy[m]> Post screenshots 20:46:38 <endogenic> same issue 20:46:59 <endogenic> https://www.reddit.com/r/oldpeoplefacebook/ 20:47:23 <cryptogrampy[m]> When can I fork your project and put bobs all over 20:47:49 <endogenic> never 20:48:02 <endogenic> GET UR OWN CURRENCY GRAMPY 20:48:06 <endogenic> you're always copying me 20:48:14 <endogenic> you dont have to do this to take part in my life 20:48:20 <endogenic> we can still ... play catch the grenade and stuff 20:48:23 <cryptogrampy[m]> I'm trying to find the right tech stack for my CokeWallet 20:48:28 <endogenic> LOL coke wallet 20:48:31 <endogenic> f 20:49:01 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://github.com/CryptoGrampy/CokeWallet 20:49:11 <endogenic> haha nice 20:49:16 <endogenic> *clicks Watch* 20:49:25 <endogenic> well y see grampy 20:49:31 <endogenic> first you start with some web3 and then you add ionic 20:49:37 <cryptogrampy[m]> Soon(tm) 20:49:50 <endogenic> i guess you need a RV to drive into the desert too 20:50:57 <cryptogrampy[m]> LWS needs admin RPC 20:51:04 <endogenic> ehhh 20:51:07 <endogenic> hm 20:51:13 <endogenic> yeah 20:51:23 <endogenic> i mean you need to think about auth but that's fairly simple 20:51:28 <cryptogrampy[m]> Or some better way to manage it 20:51:31 <endogenic> you can always tunnel tho 20:51:35 <endogenic> i have a good way to manage it 20:51:44 <endogenic> very simple actually 20:51:50 <endogenic> i mean basically, consider making some shell scripts to start with 20:51:54 <cryptogrampy[m]> Even if there was an admin port 20:51:58 <cryptogrampy[m]> with admin api 20:52:00 <endogenic> admin port 20:52:08 <endogenic> that complicates things 20:53:34 <cryptogrampy[m]> It should just follow the same pattern as restricted/unrestricted rpc for monerod 20:54:17 <endogenic> *looks for vtnerd's name in the user list... wonders how many underscore suffixes he's going to accumulate*