00:49:11 <kayabanerve[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/wxrswa/warning_majestic_bank_appears_to_be_exit_scamming/
00:49:12 <kayabanerve[m]> Someone made a new post and linked to SEVERAL deleted posts claiming their exchanges failed leading up to MajesticBank deleting the posts and their account. While I know they've claimed the exchange is operating without issue, and the kycnot.me admin confirmed it currently is, they have yet to provide an explanation for the mass about of public complaints and why they nuked their account, not to mention their downtime.
00:49:12 <kayabanerve[m]> To keep things simple, I'd like to repeat the request for MajesticBank to explain why they nuked their community and account, which is verifiable and unexplained. While it may be online now, there's been some incident which paints a very bad picture.
00:51:54 <kayabanerve[m]> *mass amount
00:55:14 <kayabanerve[m]> *While the exchange may
00:56:36 <kayabanerve[m]> The best case picture is they were temporarily offline/victims to coordinated FUD, don't have 24/7 support, and decided to stop engaging with Dread. The first is understandable, the second is shady but what isn't, and the third is their choice. Thay statement hasn't been made however. None has.
03:49:28 <ajs_[m]> koe's MoneroKon presentation on "Seraphis Balance Recovery" is up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJpE7LumG8
04:59:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Was its vik (Cake) shout at the Monero meet up 😏
06:02:40 <MajesticBank> kayabanerve[m]: I suggest that you seek professional help man
06:03:01 <MajesticBank> since this is over the line already from your side
06:15:39 <plowsof> pluja: is an impersonator? I doubt that 
06:27:00 <plowsof> when public statement addressing questions from above (needmoneys also). Will this be like signing hashes ? Do people have to independently test the service? 
06:28:25 <rbrunner> As an outsider I respectfully disagree with an assessment that kayabanerve somehow lost it to an extent that they should seek "professional help". Healthy scepticism, maybe served a bit pointedly, more like it.
06:30:08 <rbrunner> But here my unsolicited and maybe unwelcome advice: If I was a PR advisor for MajesticBank I would take them for a good talk and try to advert this PR trainwreck.
06:30:50 <rbrunner> "If you are in hole, stop digging."
06:34:20 <MajesticBank> this is free advertising, trade volume is going up not down
06:35:41 <rbrunner> Well then, good for you. Still a very fragile situation, if you ask me.
06:35:46 <MajesticBank> and why would I address the FUD? I am bound to answers to my customers, if I answer to FUD everyday there won't be time to focus on important things
06:37:25 <rbrunner> Yes, your customers might like to have all that Dread forum confusion cleared up with a calm and informative statement from you, no?
06:37:44 <rbrunner> Beyond all FUD
06:50:41 <MajesticBank> I prefer defending myself with outstanding service and results, my work and contributions to this community
06:51:53 <MajesticBank> give it time, quality and privacy always win
06:53:08 <kayabanerve[m]> I solely stated accused, have edited my post with new info. While I am now jaded due to MajesticBank's personal attacks, I am still waiting for their explanation if they care to offer one. If they don't care to, I won't personally trust them as they won't acknowledge a mess, but that's their choice. This should naturally die out. I only came back because SEVERAL examples were newly posted.
06:53:34 <kayabanerve[m]> MajesticBank: Perfectly fair. It sounds like you didn't have that for a bit, but if you want to continue a previously sterling track record, I'd love to see it.
06:54:40 <kayabanerve[m]> Friendly reminder I've consistently said I'd love for you to come back and I was happy to see you when you sent your first message. I legitimately didn't want to cause issues. I solely wanted people to temporarily be safer than sorry. I'd hope you understand we all want to be safe. It's why you do your best to offer a safe service ;)
06:55:03 <kayabanerve[m]> But again. If this is just coordinated FUD, I'm sorry for perpetuating it as I did my best for the community. I hope your service stands properly and we can move on.
06:55:50 <kayabanerve[m]> I know you've done a lot for the community and I appreciate that. I said it didn't make sense and I never thought you were malicious. I thought you were scared, if anything, though I did acknowledge how it looked. If it looks differently as we move into a future where you continue, great :)
06:57:46 <MajesticBank> Great you have changed your opinion towards us, good luck with serai :-)
07:15:53 <merope> <MajesticBank> "and why would I address the FUD?..." <- You are not being asked to address FUD, you are asked to address things that actually happened and that impact your customers (ie the deletion of your community forum and your account) - which is reason for concern from your customers. On top of that, your continued reluctance to any questions about it makes you look even more suspicious - again, *to your customers*
09:45:29 <johnfoss68[m]> https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-56
11:21:05 <plowsof> "In regards to the develop of Ethereum-Monero" 
11:28:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> "A CCS proposal to fund the next 18 issues of The Monero Moon newsletter is currently open. It would be greatly appreciated if you could comment on it here"
11:28:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Soo... still not going to try to get readers go fund it
11:48:31 <plowsof> Kilo swap is offline? (I wanted to test exchanges) 
11:50:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Kiloswap exit scammed?!?!?!
11:50:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> .. /s
11:51:40 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Lol
11:53:15 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Weird how the internet jumps to worse case scenario
12:00:42 <pluja[m]> <plowsof> "Kilo swap is offline? (I..." <- Just tested and it seems like it is working right now for me. It also appears as online on https://dark.fail/kilos
12:12:32 <plowsof> Thanks pluja , indeed online now (i was very ng a 404 earlier) is the reason it has an 8.9 instead of 9.0 rating because it doesnt have a clesrnet version 
12:12:57 <plowsof> very ng->getting
12:14:29 <gutenberg[m]> Hi there i cant sync my demon any more. everything was fine couple days ago and since yesterday no sync is possible anymore. can anybody help me why?
12:18:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wallet? Os?
12:18:38 <gutenberg[m]> gui wallet
12:18:40 <plowsof> Did you update to ≥ v0.18.0.0?? Sounds like you need to do this
12:19:16 <gutenberg[m]> it is v0.18.1.0
12:24:14 <plowsof> Can take it to #monero-support:monero.social for troubleshooting 
12:25:30 <gutenberg[m]> i actually could provide the monrod.exe logs if it helps?
12:28:30 <nioc> oh look, another matrix room that is not bridged to IRC
12:34:18 <plowsof> (once monero is bridged, we can use the "nioc said bridge it" coupon code for monero support too. We also have community dev not bridged (the first step is creating an irc channel with "monero" in its name, (protected)
12:46:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Diego said he'd do it for nioc
12:46:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think for community-dev and  monero
12:54:23 <nioc> The request to diego was for the long standing #monero issue
12:54:56 <nioc> After that feel free to use the coupon code :)
12:55:30 <nioc> We are one
13:29:05 <spacekitty420[m4> so that reddit thread warning majesticbank whatever was all like at 145 upvotes in just couple hours and now, few hours later down to 0, sounds like vote manipulations from both sides LOL
13:29:19 <spacekitty420[m4> yall be shady ass mofos, just sayin 😹
13:30:41 <plowsof> Let the ddos battles commence !
13:30:58 <spacekitty420[m4> meanwhile the last /r/place ended up with a very tiny design compared to the original one, coming from a community that do be mining and all that shit, that whole botting compared to any other communities was just garbage, shame on yall XD
13:44:14 <nioc> everything is bots, just give up
13:44:54 <Rucknium[m]> Wow Beldex just donated 13 XMR to fund ETH<>XMR atomic swaps:
13:44:54 <Rucknium[m]> https://www.gofundme.com/f/noot-ethxmr-atomic-swap-development-4-months
13:46:06 <nioc> gofundme and magic asking for the same amount 
13:46:54 <nioc> oh they are linked
13:46:58 <nioc> w0w
13:48:20 <Rucknium[m]> It's the same campaign. GoFundMe is for fiat processing and campaign completion display.
13:58:10 <vikCake[m]> <spacekitty420[m4> "so that reddit thread warning..." <- I guess we found the vote manipulators 
14:25:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Has anyone synched a node or transacted over starlink?
14:25:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wondering how reliable it is
14:27:39 <jwinterm> I think maybe shillo (not here rn) has starlink possibly
14:44:15 <[-mugatu-]> shillo is ded
14:44:31 <[-mugatu-]> starlink satellite crashed on his house and killed him instantly
14:52:56 <jwinterm> rip in pieces
14:53:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Has anyone synched a node or transacted over starlink?
14:53:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> > Wondering how reliable it is
14:53:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> Have you heard of this thingy: https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum
14:56:28 <[-mugatu-]> ofrnxmr[m]: starlink is decent for gaming. It'll be more than fine for a blockchain
14:59:09 <gonbatfire[m]> I'm more interested in how censorable Starlink is
14:59:43 <gonbatfire[m]> If it can be shutdown from ground, pretty useless for Monero
15:03:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> <cryptogrampy[m]> "> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Has..." <- Monero donation address = passes the sniff test 
15:04:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> gonbatfire:  stsrlink has partnered with tmobile  and has put out a press release looking for more service providers to supply rural access to
15:04:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> One person controlling the internet from space 🍿
15:07:23 <rbrunner> " If it can be shutdown from ground, pretty useless for Monero" I don't understand. Your ISP can also cut you off just like that. Pretty useless for Monero?
15:09:08 <gonbatfire[m]> Yes
15:09:20 <gonbatfire[m]> Mesh networks have to step up
15:14:08 <gonbatfire[m]> Or a satellite network that's open source, actually censorship resistant & that can't be controlled by a single entity, like what Femtostar is developing 
15:14:56 <ct[m]> I have high hopes on WiFi Halow, decent range (~1km) at decent data rates (~1Mbit). Can have higher range at lower data rates and vise versa (up to 5km, 15Mbit). The relative bandwidth is small (<1%), a directional yagi antenna could be used. Frequency bands vary, but almost all countries have a compatible band, which can be freely used
15:16:09 <ct[m]> Won't be able to carry the entire network obviously, but could distribute the chain and transactions locally so targeted survailance / cutting of individuals won't be possible easily
15:17:20 <ct[m]> First hardware is available since beginning of this year, but modules are rare and still super expensive (80$)
15:19:04 <ct[m]> Through industry contacts I know that individual chips will enventully sell for about $5 in 100k qty., so $10-$15 modules are realistic
15:22:24 <pluja[m]> Today I made some changes to kycnot.me, if any of you is interested, particularly to the sorting and scoring: https://kycnot.me/changelog
15:22:24 <pluja[m]> Criticism and opinions are welcome :)
15:25:07 <rbrunner> Femtostar looks interesting, but it missing one detail as far as I could see on their website. A very crucial detail: When and how will the satellites go up?
15:25:36 <rbrunner> I mean, sometimes I deam about building not one, but two megaconstellations in a single night. Nothing happened so far - zero birds in orbit.
15:28:29 <ct[m]> > <@pluja:matrix.org> Today I made some changes to kycnot.me, if any of you is interested, particularly to the sorting and scoring: https://kycnot.me/changelog
15:28:29 <ct[m]> > 
15:28:29 <ct[m]> > Criticism and opinions are welcome :)
15:28:29 <ct[m]> Ironically I prefer an inaccurate score than a "rounded" color system. But I understand why you changed it and respect your decision.
15:32:50 <pluja[m]> I know, but it was very problematic. I feel like this way you still have an oritentation about which ones are "better" and "worse" while not having a numeric score... Although maybe there is a better system than this one...
15:56:06 <r4v3r23[m]> anyone here have experience with flutter?
15:56:09 <r4v3r23[m]> need help with something basic
16:18:35 <cryptogrampy[m]> does anyone know if wownero will poompa soon?  I bought the t shirts with the very large breasted wownerochan anime girl for all of my grandkids and future grandkids.  I don't want to gift them (along with wownero sui's) right before we dump.  
16:19:04 <cryptogrampy[m]> if anyone can pass this message along to the wow CEO, it would be appreciated
16:19:19 <cryptogrampy[m]> not asking for insider trading info, I just want a heads up before i make my trade
16:19:29 <cryptogrampy[m]> not financial advice
16:20:03 <KNNY[m]> You're literally asking for financial advice lmao 
16:20:09 <cryptogrampy[m]> thanks,
16:20:09 <cryptogrampy[m]> - grampy
16:20:48 <KNNY[m]> Nobody knows what the market will do, idk why people don't understand that 
16:21:14 <mesaoptimizer> there's a wownerochan too?
16:23:48 * cryptogrampy[m] uploaded an image: (1340KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/VgESRMEOIQRvitJdqPgMwJfW/image.png >
16:24:00 <cryptogrampy[m]> yes there are 2 big differences from monerochan
16:24:14 <mesaoptimizer> Isn't the difference a bit too big
16:24:25 <cryptogrampy[m]> that's what i was told anyway
16:25:24 <cryptogrampy[m]> mesaoptimizer: not sure what you mean.  wownero is a capped supply but is almost an exact copy of monero codebase
16:25:59 <mesaoptimizer> cryptogrampy[m]: oh, I was just continuing the joke you were
16:27:05 <mesaoptimizer> more importantly: do monero's new improvements and forks also get merged into the wownero codebase?
16:28:33 <KNNY[m]> these questions are jokes right 
16:31:43 <CidadoisAncap[m]> mesaoptimizer: No, they don't
16:31:59 <mesaoptimizer> too bad, I was interested in wownero for a moment
16:32:23 <CidadoisAncap[m]> Monero and Wownero are different currencies, they run different nodes, they use different wallets, they have a different hashrate etc
16:33:11 <mesaoptimizer> yes, but the algorithm and code improvements are not specific to the monero ecosystem, right?
16:33:13 <KNNY[m]> Compare Venice Beach VA to Venice Italy, that's what its like comparing monero forks to monero 
16:33:29 <KNNY[m]> s/VA/CA/
16:33:32 <CidadoisAncap[m]> mesaoptimizer: I mean, wownero still have a ring sizer bigger tan monero's
16:34:15 <CidadoisAncap[m]> * I mean, wownero still have a ring size bigger tan monero's
16:35:30 <nioc> a new wow release will update to recent monero improvements  
16:35:40 <nioc> they alreadty had ringsize of 22 :)
16:36:06 <mesaoptimizer> "a new wow release will update to recent monero improvements" that's good to hear
16:40:59 <zounds[m]> I believe they're gonna do the viewtags but everything else doesn't exactly pertain to wow 
16:48:24 <nioc> yes it's not an exact copy
17:10:05 <EtherPro[m]> So, this morn I downloaded the monero gui. Created an wallet and sent transaction via changeling? Didn't see anything about syncing till afterwards. Either way it cleared on there side. However,I'm now synced and still nada. Any idea if support exist to hurry process with hash?
17:11:12 <mesaoptimizer> where did you even hear of changeling
17:11:55 <mesaoptimizer> you were probably scammed, since I searched around and found no mention of changeling in /r/monero and /r/xmrtrader
17:12:00 <mesaoptimizer> good night, and good luck
17:12:48 <nioc> maybe changling or chang(e)ly
17:12:59 <EtherPro[m]> https://changelly.com/
17:13:15 <selsta> EtherPro[m]: which direction did you send?
17:13:58 <EtherPro[m]> Direction?
17:17:08 <EtherPro[m]> When I set up I chose simple. However, the amount of time it will take to sync locally is unacceptable so I'm using remote node. It's going on 5 hrs.
17:17:47 <EtherPro[m]> Is there no support for this app? 
17:19:26 <mesaoptimizer> monero gui is the official GUI wallet, so it will have first class support
17:21:03 <mesaoptimizer> also you just said you are now synced, so the wallet probably isn't the problem here
17:21:06 <selsta> EtherPro[m]: yes, did you send to your monero wallet or from your monero wallet?
17:21:21 <EtherPro[m]> mesaoptimizer: From who?
17:22:11 <Rucknium[m]> Ether Pro: You have to decrypt the transactions on your own computer for your eyes only. That takes a lot of computer power. Monero is a privacy coin, so it works different than others. Just wait for full sync
17:22:47 <selsta> EtherPro[m]: do you have a transaction id from changelly? it should look like this f238b22d6db0e0efab39f93ecca1d024630d432a5bb864d1d91dafbab79f82f4
17:24:17 <gonbatfire[m]> EtherPro[m]: There is no company behind Monero, the best support you will find it right here from the community
17:25:16 <gonbatfire[m]> So, you bought some Monero trough Changelly and then sent it to your public address?
17:25:17 <EtherPro[m]> Rucknium[m]: Full sync was accomplished via remote node. 
17:25:18 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: Yes 
17:25:36 <selsta> can you enter it in https://xmrchain.net and say how many confirmations it has?
17:25:48 <EtherPro[m]> gonbatfire[m]: Yea 
17:26:05 <Rucknium[m]> Ether Pro: What version of Monero GUI are you using? If its's an older version you need to update.
17:26:25 <selsta> afterwards go to Settings -> Info, post "Version", "Wallet mode", and "Wallet restore height"
17:28:31 <Rucknium[m]> plowsof: ^ banhammer
17:29:00 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: Customer support at changelly already did that and sent me the results. They said I would need to get help on monero endm
17:29:22 <selsta> EtherPro[m]: yes, and I'm helping you already but you have to follow the steps I'm asking you
17:30:51 <EtherPro[m]> Rucknium[m]: The latest one from site. It's fine I'm deleting. Thought somehow it would be better than kraken 🤦🏿‍♂️ thanx
17:31:10 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: Did that twice. To no avail.
17:32:47 <Rucknium[m]> The version has a number. If you are at 0.17, then the version is too low. You need 0.18 at least
17:32:55 <selsta> EtherPro[m]: what is the exact issue? going to the settings -> info page is not anything that can fail
17:33:14 <EtherPro[m]> EtherPro[m]: Gui version:. 0.18.1.0-unknown (Qt 5.15.5
17:33:29 <selsta> ok, version looks good. now also post "wallet mode" and "wallet restore height"
17:34:13 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: I reset the height earlier to reset the block. Someone did that to fix a similar problem. Via Reddit 
17:34:46 <selsta> ok, still post what the page says next to "wallet mode" and "wallet restore height"
17:36:31 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: Wallet height 2676868. Advanced mode
17:38:20 <selsta> EtherPro[m]: does it say Advanced mode (Local node) or Advanced mode (Remote node) ?
17:40:10 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: Advanced mode(remote node)
17:40:32 <selsta> ok, which remote node do you have set? You can check in Settings -> Node
17:41:30 <EtherPro[m]> Https://anstee.dev:18081
17:41:48 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: Https://anstee.dev:18081
17:42:19 <selsta> where did you find that remote node?
17:42:29 <EtherPro[m]> Should I use more than one?
17:42:31 <selsta> it is outdated that's why your funds don't show up
17:42:57 <selsta> set a node from here for example: https://nodes.monero.com
17:43:47 <selsta> or you can set a remote node from this comment  https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3989#issuecomment-1214412781
17:45:19 <EtherPro[m]> selsta: Ok, I will try them both
17:56:36 <EtherPro[m]> <selsta> "it is outdated that's why your..." <- That fixed the problem surprisingly. Thank you.
18:04:08 <plowsof> Thanks for ping Rucknium 
18:26:50 <mesaoptimizer> lol
18:27:35 <mesaoptimizer> maybe we should have a standard set of data to ask someone when debugging their wallet issue? wallet version, source for binary, wallet height, remote node
18:28:00 <nioc> for sure
18:29:39 <nioc> please fill out this questionnaire  
18:36:35 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://twitter.com/hundehausen/status/1563209830873329664
18:38:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> We moving too fast for maps
18:38:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Vroom
18:39:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Needs an update though 
18:40:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Triptych is off the table, bp+ is implemented, 
18:40:22 <plowsof> I made a PR but i put some useless stuff in it and now the dates are confirmed i can update 
18:43:17 <plowsof> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/1989 needs doscussion (other than than correcting the release dates / adding v0.18.1.0 too
18:44:33 <plowsof> Retro active roadmap
20:24:27 <cryptogrampy[m]> things i'm looking forward to that could maybe be added: remote view key syncything, standardized seeds with built in block height, subaddress support for lws, noise protocol(?) 
20:25:16 <endogenic> we got a pr for subaddrs in a little
20:25:24 <endogenic> no big
20:25:27 <cryptogrampy[m]> bulletproofs69x+
20:25:46 <cryptogrampy[m]> endogenic: you did it?
20:26:10 <endogenic> yeah haha i designed it and built it like 6 mos ago
20:26:16 <endogenic> and like, a lot of other cool stuff
20:26:31 <cryptogrampy[m]> when can it be moved into vtnerd's lws server
20:26:40 <endogenic> anytime. j and i are already on it
20:26:49 <cryptogrampy[m]> so i can go haha git pull 
20:26:52 <endogenic> we talked for like 3 wks about it haha
20:26:58 <endogenic> ya i mean
20:27:02 <endogenic> if anyone cares to support me
20:27:03 <endogenic> for once
20:27:06 <endogenic> it might help
20:27:09 <endogenic> .bbl
20:27:27 <cryptogrampy[m]> wen ccs
20:27:53 <plowsof> la
20:28:11 <plowsof> la->wow* nice work endogenic 
20:41:48 <endogenic> maybe if we change the name back to ffs
20:42:49 <endogenic> plowsof: <3
20:45:56 <endogenic> anyway I might put up a proposal after I release the initial stage of what I've been working on. So people know it's real
20:47:24 <endogenic> pretty sad though
23:08:02 <endogenic> haha fuck well it it's a matter of mymonero getting the money instead
23:08:08 <endogenic> maybe i should do the ccs sooner
23:08:30 <endogenic> i have a couple people coming on who are actual monero true believers
23:08:44 <endogenic> theyre sacrificing pay to actually help monero and hopefully have success later
23:08:58 <endogenic> i hope this means something to this community still
23:10:06 <endogenic> i'm barely scraping by though
23:10:09 <endogenic> i went into debt for this
23:10:18 <endogenic> well, and for the prev attempt
23:10:37 <endogenic> so if the community is serious this time then i'm ready
23:11:03 <endogenic> we already have a way faster lws server
23:11:06 <endogenic> than anything else
23:11:18 <endogenic> and client libs much improved
23:11:26 <endogenic> but same api
23:11:34 <endogenic> not the one that got ruined
23:12:43 <endogenic> yknow. if anyone even wants a central lws anymore
23:12:52 <endogenic> i see how it can be useful. but i'm not very interested in it anymore
23:13:06 <endogenic> i have better solutions
23:13:23 <endogenic> i wish people would listen to me a little
23:13:29 <endogenic> arent you tired of being scammed?
23:13:31 <endogenic> lol
23:13:40 <endogenic> you should hold out for better
23:13:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Press enter less
23:16:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> endogenic: Sending messages little by little is not the answer
23:19:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Those messages hurt my brain 🥲
23:19:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ranting etc. Put that in a paragraph with periods please. 
23:36:44 <endogenic> i'm not ranting. To be quite honest it seems there are some very serious misunderstandings in this community. in any case, as you wish
23:47:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Pressing send 55x with no punctuation = rant 
23:48:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or perhaps I should say spam?
23:48:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im nor referring to your tone, but to the lack of punctuation that makes it incredibly hard to read without a beer