00:41:53 <DiegoSalazar[m]> https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/xkkq5e/stack_wallet_an_opensource_multicoin_lightwallet/
00:42:03 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Hi all. Take a moment to check us out if you haven't already. 
00:42:16 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Still open beta. So feedback is very welcome. :)
04:42:14 <gingeropolous> sgp[m], its just a dumb round robin of 5 nodes 
04:47:14 <gingeropolous> during some attack or another you couldn't rely on the port sniffing database backend thing, so i just hardcoded 5 nodes
06:25:06 <DanIsnotthemanBr> if i use ledger for a wallet connected to xmr gui wallet do i need to back up anything in xmr gui wallet?
06:32:56 <sech1> all you need to back up is wallet seed (25 words)
06:37:54 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Already got that. Stored on ledger
06:43:34 <sech1> "stored on ledger" is not a backup, lol
07:02:02 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yeah i know i have it written down. I meant it uses ledger
08:03:17 <NorrinRadd> getmonero.org mentions ledger and not trezor right? 
08:03:27 <NorrinRadd> i'm always a little confused when i see people buy ledger 
08:39:31 <roooooocc[m]> Is there any way of sending a 64 ascii char code on a xmr transaction?
08:56:00 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Both are there
10:43:15 <selsta> dEBRUYNE: did you make a thread for the GUI yet? if yes, can you remove it? there is a bug with the daemon start/stop mechanic, we have to make a new release  x.x
11:03:36 <pumanero[m]> Get letter stamps and stamp them onto steel washers. Put washers around a bolt. Waterproof/oil them, and put em in a safe place. Does anyone recommend safe deposit boxes in a bank?
14:46:56 <Lyza> ledger is partly proprietary hardware but trezor doesn't have a secure element so keys can be more easily read by someone with physical device access, is that about the shape of it? if so seems like there are no great options
14:48:22 <Lyza> would be pretty ironic to keep your crypto keys in a bank pumanero (: idk I'm always sketched out by having my seeds exist in the physical world
15:00:01 <pumanero[m]> Lyza: vKinda sketches me out too but my stoner brain is no good for long term storage of anything much less my savings xD
15:04:08 <Lyza> multiple encrypted backups is an option -- different risk factors though and you still need to remember a solid password
15:04:45 <Lyza> 16 word seeds will be easier to memorize at least (:
15:30:16 <pumanero[m]> Lyza: I've actually got a 12 word through trezor ;-) 
15:41:04 <Lyza> can you convert that to a 25 word seed?
15:43:55 <pumanero[m]> Lyza: I'm not sure, never heard of someone doing that. It does bother me that if I don't have access to a model T I don't have access period though. I wonder if a converted 25 word would let me in if needed
15:53:59 <kinghat[m]> https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pnkw/us-military-bought-mass-monitoring-augury-team-cymru-browsing-email-data
15:53:59 <kinghat[m]> ceo of that company was on the board of the tor project 😂
15:55:24 <NorrinRadd> the amount fo faith that people have in Tor puzzles me
15:55:42 <NorrinRadd> admitted government sponsors and people just putting faith
16:01:22 <Rucknium[m]> pumanero: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/rxari9/how_to_convert_ledger_and_trezor_bip39_24_seed_to/
16:03:48 <KNNY[m]> Tfw you're in the middle of nyc and your coinbase card becomes compromised 
16:03:48 <KNNY[m]> How will i buy food today stay tuned 
16:04:03 * KNNY[m] uploaded an image: (33KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HUjSwGGgYORDeizkPnhAyTdA/pepe-fat-stomach-side-view.png >
16:04:07 <pumanero[m]> Rucknium: oh neat!
16:05:25 <KNNY[m]> Ill use my handy dandy backup bitpay card 
16:05:41 <KNNY[m]> I saw this situation arising eventually 
16:06:30 <pumanero[m]> KNNY:  or cake pay! I still haven't tried it but I plan on taking profits that way lol
16:06:56 <KNNY[m]> pumanero[m]: That's my second option, I might possibly end up doing this 
16:07:39 <KNNY[m]> It's just the fact of gift cards only being able to be used for 1 thing is what puts me off 
16:25:08 <KNNY[m]> Also I got a new hiking backpack which makes me look homeless even though I'm wearing brand new clean clothing and people are ignoring me 💀
16:26:15 <pumanero[m]> KNNY: lol just got into backpacking myself. Does it have a frame? Never been to NY but it would seem odd to see a framed Osprey strolling through times square
16:26:26 <KNNY[m]> I mean I technically don't have an address but that don't mean I don't have money 
16:26:43 <KNNY[m]> half these mfs on the sidewalk poorer than me and read bookw by covers 
16:26:51 <KNNY[m]> s/bookw/books/
16:27:41 <KNNY[m]> pumanero[m]: It has a frame yeah, Mystery Ranch terraframe 
16:28:37 <KNNY[m]> Best backpack I've ever had, bombproof but heavy (5 lbs)
16:29:17 <KNNY[m]> * had, bombproof,, *  51L, ypu can put things between the backpack and frame, but, * but its heavy (5
16:29:23 <duggavo[m]> KNNY[m]: why do you care about strangers ignoring you or not?
16:29:23 <KNNY[m]> * had, bombproof,, *  51L, you can put things between the backpack and frame, but, * but its heavy (5
16:30:26 <KNNY[m]> duggavo[m]: Because I was asking them a question about the weather  
16:30:27 <KNNY[m]> I wasn't asking for money, I was asking about when it was gonna stop raining
16:32:29 <KNNY[m]> I just didn't want to get wet idk I just thought it was a weird thing to ignore someone for, I'm a NY'er so I ignore people all the time but for the right reasons 
17:12:14 <carla[m]> Hi everyone! I hope you find this relevant. I'm a researcher at Aarhus University in Denmark and I'm doing an interview study about interoperable messaging 🤓. I'm looking for Matrix users in Europe that a) use bridges with mainstream apps or b) chat frequently with other Matrix users that prefer a different client. 
17:12:14 <carla[m]> The interview would take 30-60 minutes, and there's no compensation... BUT you'd be contributing insights that could impact policy and tech design about interoperability :) Any volunteers?
17:13:22 <gunslinger_zach[> I believe this chat is bridged with irc so maybe you could get some irc people
17:15:41 <carla[m]> I'm actually very interested in matrix-IRC bridged conversations :) so yeah! IRC people are also welcome if they've noticed any differences when chatting with bridged users
17:21:20 <sech1> I noticed that all message editing on Matrix side results in message spam on IRC side
17:21:27 <sech1> and quoting messages doesn't really work on IRC side
18:00:17 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 138: September 15 - 22, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-138.html
23:08:00 <Lyza> <pumanero[m]> yes that's why I was asking. with the 25 word seed you can restore in any wallet without a trezor
23:08:25 <Lyza> as long as you can convert it the same way they do