05:20:16 <selenze[m]> https://forum.monero.space/d/79-how-to-join-the-monero-core-team-matrix-server-web/2   super...this should have been linked to the official monero 
05:20:41 <selenze[m]> and the color be a lot ligher
05:20:50 <selenze[m]> u know for first coming people
05:49:56 <selenze[m]> Rucknium: couldn't register without an email  https://app.element.io/#/register
10:21:43 <NorrinRadd> so is there something like an xpub that a wallet uploads to the node it uses in order to find its balance?
10:28:19 <f6287b82cc84bcbd> View key
10:37:14 <plowsof> NorrinRadd , indeed view-key but the wallet never uploads this to the remote node -> the wallet requests all transactions from every block then then sifts through each one locally
10:39:03 <NorrinRadd> plowsof hmmm so the risk of using a remote node is not necessary "privacy" but its more so only trust that you're being provided the correct blockchain? 
10:41:25 <plowsof> ill let the experts handle that in detail : https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n6Bxp0k7Uqg
10:42:07 <plowsof> the remote node can also tell you the transaction fee is 19XMR and if you ignore the warning and click ok, 'oops'
11:47:27 <msvb-web> plowsof: Are you moderating today's meeting, and can you please add to the agenda a reminder item (twenty seconds discussion) regarding next week's physical meeting at HCPP in Prague?
11:48:26 <msvb-web> I can't log in to GitHub to make the agenda request in comments, sorry for this unwelcome distraction.
11:49:26 <msvb-web> Write my name MSvB next to the entry if you decide to accept the agenda request.
11:55:42 <plowsof> Of course, No problem msvb-web, never unwelcome, is this correct? MSvB - Hackers Congress Paralelní Polis (HCPP) 2022 — September 30- October 2, 2022 
11:56:37 <plowsof> or rather 1st - 3rd as per https://www.paralelnipolis.cz/en/koncepty/hcpp/
11:58:02 <plowsof> luigi1111 will be hopefully moderating , ill do my best to make it https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/737
12:06:15 <plowsof> sethforprivacy and msvb-web will be attending/speaking at https://last-shot.hcpp.cz/ escapethe3ra 
13:05:10 <msvb-web> Yes, I think there will be little or no Monero content, the typical Monero groups are just providing Bitcoin at the event. I think even all the ATMs and POS terminals have Monero disabled for this event.
13:05:41 <msvb-web> But it will still be nice to see a few regular faces around.
13:06:29 <msvb-web> It's not 1st to 3rd, so please use the first text plowsof.
14:01:54 <plowsof> corrected it msvb-web, meeting in 2 hours luigi1111 
14:02:29 <nioc> don't forget luigi1111w
14:16:06 <bridgerton[m]> <Vy> Hope someone can help.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/1e6acd419bb0c5a1ad9651ce39effaa4a9e6a627>)
14:30:26 <spackle_xmr[m]> 1. Everything is almost certainly fine.
14:30:26 <spackle_xmr[m]> 2. The issue is very likely related to the wallet restore height. In the GUI go to Settings, Info, and change 'Wallet restore height' to a few months before the wallet first received a transaction. If you are unsure of the date, you can set the restore height to '0' and sync the full Monero blockchain. After you change the wallet restore height the wallet will go through syncing again, and should show your balance correctly
14:30:26 <spackle_xmr[m]> when the process is completed.
14:30:26 <spackle_xmr[m]> 3. #monero-support:monero.social is the place for support. I see that you posted there and were advised that it isn't 'official' support, but it is still the place to get support (just not in any official capacity). You are asking for/receiving help from anonymous strangers on the Internet, and should keep that in mind.
15:27:46 <monero_archiver[> Hello, is the workgroup meeting already started?
15:29:03 <selenze[m]> monero_archiver[: According to Plowsof, It is about to start in about 30min from now 
15:34:16 <monero_archiver[> Does anyone knows how to register on libera.chat? I am behind a vpn, but when I try to connect to libera.chat it says my ip range needs to connect using SASL with verified email. But SASL requires a password which means I have to connect anonymously first to register, but it does not allow me to connect anonymously. Is there a possible way to register without using my own real ip or purchase a 4g proxy?
15:46:07 <ajs_[m]> monero_archiver: try different vpn servers or bite the bullet and disable it temporarily to register
15:46:54 <ajs_[m]> go to a cafe or library 
15:47:31 <monero_archiver[> ajs_[m]: I gave up, maybe it used a service like maxmind and blacklisted all known public proxies.
15:48:04 <monero_archiver[> I wish there is a service sell 4g proxy for monero🤣
15:52:54 <NorrinRadd> monero_archiver[ you can get mullvlad and ivpn for monero 
15:53:19 <Rucknium[m]> monero_archiver: You can ask a trusted person to register for you. Then reset the password.
15:54:04 <selenze[m]> Rucknium: Earlier I wrote you about the Matrix guide you wrote...the email is not optional
15:54:31 <selenze[m]> couldn't register without an email https://app.element.io/#/register
15:54:45 <NorrinRadd> monero_archiver[ this room is also bridged to discord and matrix so perhaps you'd be more comfortable with one of those 
15:54:45 <Rucknium[m]> selenze: Emailed used to be optional, but then the server was being used for spam so they changed it
15:54:45 <monero_archiver[> NorrinRadd: Yes but vpn ip is dirty and anti spam system hates them
15:55:41 <selenze[m]> NorrinRadd: Can't we make these platforms plz...at least one of them
15:56:02 <monero_archiver[> NorrinRadd: Thanks, matrix is perfect, a modernized system with good encryption and UI. IRC is so painful to set up😅
15:57:44 <NorrinRadd> monero_archiver[ ironically i'm unable to use matrix whatsoever.   irc is all i understand
15:57:47 <NorrinRadd> selenze[m] what systems?
15:59:40 <NorrinRadd> selenze[m] you're aware there's such a thing as anonymuos email right?  you're spending a lot of energy to not provide an email address but that doesn;'t seem necessary 
16:00:31 <selenze[m]> NorrinRadd: I was responding to your email...at least it gave hope initially
16:00:35 <luigi1111w> oh luigi will be moderating
16:00:45 <selenze[m]> to your guide I mean
16:00:58 <plowsof> Hello! meeting time https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/737
16:01:17 <plowsof> greetings all
16:01:33 <msvb-web> Hello.
16:01:38 <dangerousfreedom> Hello
16:01:44 <monero_archiver[> Hello
16:01:45 <v1docq47> Hello
16:01:47 <Rucknium[m]> Hi
16:01:53 <NorrinRadd> selenze[m] the bridges are already active
16:01:58 <NorrinRadd> Hi All
16:02:17 <gunslinger_zach[> hello
16:02:24 <hinto[m]> hi
16:02:34 <plowsof> main topic is to discuss CCS merge list @ https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests , oldest first 
16:03:26 <plowsof> a. MoneroSigner. Fork of seedsigner for Monero 
16:04:07 <midipoet> hello all 
16:04:20 <Rucknium[m]> AFAIK, this got merged, but is in some sort of formatting limbo
16:05:04 <luigi1111w> yeah let me look at it quick
16:05:10 <luigi1111w> but we don't need to discuss it, it's merged
16:05:19 <plowsof> ok nice
16:05:37 <plowsof> so he has to fix "something" for it to appear on Funding required?
16:05:51 <luigi1111w> nah I usually do
16:06:53 <plowsof> that was easy then, thanks, onto the next:
16:06:57 <plowsof>   b. [[monero-bash] continued development (3 months)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/333)    
16:07:39 <plowsof> 1 shill comment from myself there 
16:07:54 <luigi1111w> I think this is a yes if he fixes the mr
16:08:18 <plowsof> we wanted him to define his rates last meeting, not much else 
16:08:19 <luigi1111w> wait nvm
16:08:24 <ajs_[m]> how this bash thing better than just downloading the sources directly
16:08:24 <plowsof> the xmr , usd amount?
16:08:39 <plowsof> hinto: hinto 
16:08:42 <luigi1111w> milestones and amount is backwards
16:08:48 <hinto[m]> mr = market rate?
16:08:54 <luigi1111w> merge request
16:09:03 <duggavo[m]> plowsof: Isn't $22 per work hour a little bit too much for a bash script?
16:09:25 <NorrinRadd> no
16:09:50 <plowsof> "bash scripts" is an oversimplification 
16:09:56 <hinto[m]> not sure what to say other than to look at the source
16:10:00 <Rucknium[m]> Programming labor is expensive.
16:10:11 <hinto[m]> its around 4k lines of code
16:10:23 <plowsof> what advantage do i get from using monero bash , other than "downloading sources directly" 
16:10:58 <duggavo[m]> duggavo[m]: I mean that the proposal might not be worth its cost
16:11:35 <ajs_[m]> it is a nice tool, but it seems too niche that only a few people will ever use
16:12:17 <plowsof> off the top of my head i see its used for easy p2pool install / setup (monero node setup)
16:12:56 <hinto[m]> i agree its pretty niche, from what i can tell from github stats it seems theres 50~100 users
16:13:35 <luigi1111w> current hourly is $19.5 or so if unchanged
16:13:58 <hinto[m]> ideally these packages would be available direct in all linux repos but thats almost never going to happen
16:14:19 <luigi1111w> hinto[m] please move amount: ahead of milestones:
16:15:27 <luigi1111w> seedsigner is up
16:15:38 <plowsof> thanks 
16:15:40 <Rucknium[m]> How can the existence of monero-bash be used to increase p2pool use?
16:15:56 <Rucknium[m]> Can we get p2pool guides to recommend it?
16:17:58 <plowsof> we like documentation and ease-of-use, are you alive hinto 
16:18:03 <hinto[m]> luigi1111w: will do 
16:18:40 <hinto[m]> Rucknium: im not sure since it does require a bit more setup/knowledge
16:18:55 <hinto[m]> maybe the way forward is for ease-of-use implementations of p2pool
16:19:15 <NorrinRadd> i find p2pool setup very easy
16:19:26 <hinto[m]> rather than monero-bash, which is geared more for power-users(?)
16:19:36 <NorrinRadd> monerod, p2pool, and xmrig are one line each in order to get them started 
16:20:27 <hinto[m]> ease-of-use as in 1 program on windows that mines on p2pool with full hashrate
16:20:52 <hinto[m]> no configuration other than wallet, no terminal, easy one click
16:21:05 <duggavo[m]> NorrinRadd: Yes, a one-line script could be made by simply replacing newlines with "&&"
16:21:06 <hinto[m]> although i definitely can't build something like that
16:21:42 <duggavo[m]> I could build it as a cross-platform GTK+ application
16:21:47 <luigi1111w> if you believe it you can build it
16:22:00 <duggavo[m]> but that's unrelated with the CCS
16:22:46 <luigi1111w> I would rather the ccs had concrete deliverables instead of monthly
16:23:00 <luigi1111w> given the potential issues with such
16:25:36 <plowsof> time to put the 8 milestones below into concrete payouts , would be better 
16:26:16 <luigi1111w> agree. We need to move on 
16:26:27 <plowsof>   d. [Monero archive](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/339)    
16:26:38 <luigi1111w> it's a yes but needs fixed
16:26:39 <plowsof> monero_archiver 
16:26:49 <monero_archiver[> I think I have just fixed the format?
16:26:55 <monero_archiver[> Could you have a look?
16:27:09 <luigi1111w> looks much better
16:27:23 <luigi1111w> you don't need XMR on the amount ## though I'm not sure if it'll break it or not
16:27:39 <luigi1111w> if it does I can fix
16:28:04 <monero_archiver[> Okay I deleted it
16:28:46 <luigi1111w> merged. Let's see if it works
16:29:16 <luigi1111w> the biggest thing to discuss is newsletters funded by CCS and choosing winners and what's appropriate
16:29:26 <luigi1111w> let's here them thots
16:29:29 <luigi1111w> hear*
16:29:54 <hinto[m]> luigi1111w: does the final completion of it all count as a deliverable? as in, 1 amount only paid upon completion
16:30:12 <luigi1111w> hinto[m] sure if you are ok with that
16:30:18 <hinto[m]> sorry for late reponse the gitlab repo hangs my computer lool
16:32:25 <plowsof> my opinion specifically of johnfoss is written in the comments. (he is currently away for another week or 2 so unable to comment) he is asking for almost double his competitor, and i call into question his literacy skills / proof reading (he still has mistakes in his proposal) purchasing followers with giveaways and using that as a benchmark.. has 400 followers and hasnt been able to get much thumbs up after putting his proposal in
16:32:25 <plowsof> several of his newsletters, i am still FOR funding newsletters , as long as the author produces good content  
16:35:03 <luigi1111w> the balance of feedback supports merging observer and closing moon
16:35:16 <Rucknium[m]> Monero Observer is very good. Somehow both in-depth but to-the-point. Very timely. Like a news wire service. CakeWallet is now using it for their news feed, an endorsement of its quality.
16:35:22 <luigi1111w> it's a bit unhandy we have "nahuhh" and "nope" floating around voting on stuff
16:35:47 <plowsof> i am indeed FOR monero observer 
16:36:15 <plowsof> nahuhh is ofrnxmr , i do not know who nope is
16:36:39 <gnuteardrops[m]> +1  Monero Observer
16:37:41 <luigi1111w> ah ok, why don't they use the same name? Weight is given to "known" actors
16:38:11 <plowsof> ofrnxmr 
16:38:16 <midipoet> +1 Monero Observer (mainly as i prefer the design and the manner content is presented)
16:38:27 <Rucknium[m]> M.O. also watches all the things that need to be watched: GitHub, CCS gitlab, Matrix/IRC, etc. Probably has notifications for all those set up.
16:38:35 <luigi1111w> sounds like observer is an obvious merge. Please make your opinions known on ccs or just upvote if you want
16:39:54 <plowsof> +1 MO
16:40:18 <monerobull[m]> Yes monero observer
16:41:40 <plowsof> there are sockpuppets who vote on ccs proposals, clearly, as luigi states, weight is given to known characters , and feedback from these meetings is combined with multiple sources (reddit threads etc) to make a decision 
16:42:59 <plowsof>   g. [v1docq47 - monerokon and monerotopia voiceover and working on xmr.ru](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/343)   
16:43:46 <plowsof> this is a 're-vamp' proposal, (after translations no longer ccs) - offering transcriptions , video content , and clear milestones goals 
16:44:11 <luigi1111w> he's one of the longest standing ccs users
16:44:24 <luigi1111w> though I don't have a good way to tell if he's effective or not
16:44:47 <plowsof> and pricing at 10$/hour 
16:45:12 <plowsof> organised nicely on his "twello" thing 
16:45:36 <Rucknium[m]> Would like to hear from Russian speakers about the demand for this.
16:46:41 <v1docq47> i'm afraid that they are not frequent guests in irc
16:47:00 <ajs_[m]> not all monerokon videos are up yet.. WIP 
16:47:14 <plowsof> i would like it to be advertised to a Russian audience and to have feedback from them , i am swinging more to +1 than not , but our russian isn't good to judge 
16:47:55 <plowsof> note - ENG transcriptions also for some thing 
16:48:03 <midipoet> the videos seem pretty neat on the youtube channel (XMR.RU videos) 
16:51:12 <plowsof> we want to see a demand from their Russian audience?
16:51:13 <Rucknium[m]> I have come across a few Russian-language research papers that mention Monero, FWIW
16:51:37 <plowsof> translating russian research papers to english , nice possibility 
16:52:02 <plowsof> easier to review 
16:52:18 <plowsof> well, for an MRL member 
16:52:39 <msvb-web> The group who can understand russky is quite large, similar to french or english in crossing culture borders.
16:53:02 <v1docq47> what kind of research work is this?
16:53:12 <Rucknium[m]> My overall impression is that the papers are sort of review papers that don't have much indpendent scientific contribution, but I would be wrong obviously.
16:54:02 <Rucknium[m]> I did not save links to the papers since I couldn't understand them. I could probably dig them up after a search
16:54:48 <plowsof> he has been translating into russian for 5+ years, if it was trash we would have known by now 
16:55:21 <Rucknium[m]> Um, I can remember one of them saying "Monero is obviously the best of the privacy coins", which struck me as not too scientific.
16:55:50 <luigi1111w> that sounds very scientific
16:57:11 <plowsof> few minutes left, before we touch on msvb-labs presentation ... any other points on ths RUS proposal?? our concern is "demand" ?
16:57:46 <Rucknium[m]> Something to keep in mind is that my English-language search found these papers, but there could be other Russian-language papers in the references of the papers that my search did not hit.
16:58:35 <midipoet> can i quickly raise something on my own CCS before we move off them? 
16:58:53 <plowsof> sure, whats happening
16:59:00 <midipoet> My own CCS is at ‘Work in Progress’ stage: https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/midipoet-Oslo_Freedom_Forum_CCS_proposal.html
16:59:11 <midipoet> I have travelled to the event, and delivered a report: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/v18o78/ccs_report_midipoet_at_the_oslo_freedom_forum/
16:59:12 <plowsof> should be completed?
16:59:45 <midipoet> well, no. I had planned to be involved in a podcast, reporting on the event as a follow-up to a podcast I did last year, but this will no longer be happening. 
16:59:55 <midipoet> I had also planned to distribute flyers at the Oslo event - and this did not happen (mainly as I was advised against it on the original CCS and also privately on IRC). 
17:00:13 <midipoet> With this in mind, I propose to refund a portion of the CCS to the General Fund (i.e., refund the initially projected cost of the prep for the podcast and the cost of the initially proposed flyer printing). This is because the originally planned work could not/was not completed. As per the CCS rules, the XMR attributed to this work should get refunded to the GF.  
17:00:31 <midipoet> The second payout is supposed to be 4.25 XMR. I propose refunding 2 XMR to the GF, which equates to roughly €300 at current rates (€100 for the printing, and €200 for the four hours prep time for the podcast). 
17:00:46 <plowsof> thank you for the full disclosure 
17:00:49 <midipoet> The remaining balance (2.25 XMR) will be paid out to me. 
17:00:58 <luigi1111w> this is acceptable to me
17:01:03 <midipoet> cool. thanks
17:01:05 <plowsof> +1 
17:01:24 <luigi1111w> midipoet can you write in the original mr your proposal? I'll do the payouts then
17:01:28 <plowsof> - MSvB - Hackers Congress Paralelní Polis (HCPP) 2022  https://last-shot.hcpp.cz/ — MSvB and SethForPrivacy are named speakers at the event - *September 30- October 2, 2022*  
17:01:43 <midipoet> luigi1111w: yes - will do
17:01:58 <Rucknium[m]> Don't we have dangerousfreedom proposal and the sudo shop?
17:02:17 <msvb-web> I have no well prepared presentation @plowsof, just reminding that the hackers conference of Paralelni Polis (HCPP) is next week.
17:02:25 <msvb-web> The official direction has cancelled all Monero technology from the conference,
17:02:25 <msvb-web> but the good news is that fiat is cancelled as well. There is a strong presence
17:02:25 <msvb-web> of Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, and the official currency system is Lightning.
17:02:30 <msvb-web> We did this due to lack of participation and a lot of Bitcoin groups wanting the
17:02:30 <msvb-web>  opportunity that Monero usually abandons.
17:02:35 <plowsof> MRL have endorsed DF;s proposal, i see no issue from moving forward with it 
17:02:36 <msvb-web> Other good news is that electronic badges produced for the conference are fully
17:02:36 <msvb-web> open, meaning that the Bitcoin logic stored on them can be replaced with Ethereu
17:02:36 <msvb-web> m, Monero, or any other currency technology.
17:02:58 <msvb-web> For example, if anybody stops by the badge clinic, we can show how to replace the Bitcoin logic with Monero.
17:03:14 <plowsof> thanks msvb-web, safe journey to/from and good luck! 
17:03:20 <escapethe3ra[m]> msvb-web message me the details, if you have more for a MO report, or at least a community message
17:03:42 <msvb-web> I can try to make something in one paragraph escapethe3ra[m], suitable for the Observer yes.
17:03:55 <escapethe3ra[m]> great
17:04:19 <luigi1111w> sudo shop
17:04:44 <msvb-web> Any questions about HCPP, or the cryptocurrencies participating there? It's off the topic, because no Monero. So we can continue to the next topic.
17:04:53 <monerobull[m]> The idea is obviously great but i don't know to much about the devs
17:05:08 <plowsof> they have been working on it for years at least 
17:06:07 <ajs_[m]> there has been a few proposals over the years to make a monero market, but none have panned out. i am skeptical this would be any different.
17:06:09 <monerobull[m]> Idk about the web of trust thing. Do we have any idea how desnakes project might work in regards to this?
17:06:27 <luigi1111w> I'm a bit leery about funding such an endeavor through ccs
17:07:04 <luigi1111w> also is its plan to be revenueless?
17:07:12 <monerobull[m]> Yeah
17:07:19 <monerobull[m]> Decentralized marketplace 
17:08:04 <monerobull[m]> I think they said something about monetizing in the future but keep free listings
17:08:04 <plowsof> are we feeling another dust collector in "work in porgress"? the devs are atleast putting the effort in, 3 years old https://gitlab.com/beardog/Onionr
17:08:09 <Rucknium[m]> IMHO, with things like this building the userbase is harder than building the app. You need a buyer and a seller for the same set of goods/services. Very hard to generate the networl effect.
17:08:56 <monerobull[m]> Rucknium[m]: Not if it allows drugs... ._.
17:09:33 <hinto[m]> luigi1111w: fixed the formatting, is it ok now?
17:09:48 <hinto[m]> also changed the payout from monthly -> only upon full completion if thats ok with everyone
17:10:18 <luigi1111w> yes I like that better
17:10:28 <ajs_[m]> -1
17:11:02 <plowsof> better yep 
17:12:10 <monerobull[m]> Sure a decentralized marketplace based on xmr would be nice to have for circular economy but I'm not sure if we should fund it
17:12:38 <monerobull[m]> Especially if desnake is really working on something already 
17:13:16 <monerobull[m]> Let the free market spawn markets 👀
17:13:36 <midipoet> the web of trust system (milestone 1) might be good for other p2p efforts - especially atomic swaps/dex. could we just ask for that to be completed first, so we can gauge quality/uptake?
17:14:17 <Rucknium[m]> v1docq47: A few Russian-language papers that mention Monero: https://elibrary.ru/item.asp?id=49057736 https://elibrary.ru/item.asp?id=46572705
17:14:24 <luigi1111w> wot is more innocuous
17:14:27 <monerobull[m]> monerobull[m]: Security and privacy are expected to be better just out of necessity 
17:16:14 <v1docq47> Rucknium[m]: tnx
17:16:40 <plowsof> i have to pop out so i will say my thanks and goodbyes, enjoy the rest of your evening all 
17:18:30 <luigi1111w> thanks plowsof let's call it here
17:19:23 <midipoet> i left a comment on the forgotsudo MR asking about breaking it up into smaller projects
17:19:52 <msvb-web> Great meeting everyone, and thanks to plowsof for organising it.
17:19:53 <luigi1111w> thanks
17:20:46 <v1docq47> however, I did not quite understand what result we came to in the key of my CCS proposal
17:21:23 <Rucknium[m]> v1docq47: Another one: https://uprav-uchet.ru/index.php/journal/article/view/1699
17:21:50 <Rucknium[m]> That is the one that says, "The article discusses cryptomonets with increased anonymity ZCASH and DASH in terms of those criminal risks that entail data digital assets. The author notes that both projects are noticeably inferior to the Monero cryptoactive both in popularity and in technical development."
17:25:20 <luigi1111w> v1docq47 no conclusion yet
17:31:15 <v1docq47> can i somehow help in solving this conclusion, or does nothing depend on me here?
17:32:23 <luigi1111w> seeking more feedback, esp from those who might consume this content would be great
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18:19:45 <monerobull[m]> He's the best Bitcoin miner guys
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18:54:48 <CidadoisAncap[m]> Serious questuion: is monero pric about to get obliterated?
18:55:03 <CidadoisAncap[m]> s/pric/price/
18:55:09 <CidadoisAncap[m]> s/questuion/question/, s/pric/price/
19:04:15 <monerobull[m]> Cheapies 👀
19:04:30 <monerobull[m]> * Cheapsies 👀
19:04:49 <monerobull[m]> Retail buying put options doesn't mean retail is right
19:05:19 <monerobull[m]> It will probably pump, if only just to liquidated retail put options before the real crash
20:02:30 <cryptogrampy[m]> Xmr PocketNode for Andoid has been updated with v18 binaries / new APK release FYI: https://twitter.com/CryptoGrampy/status/1573763064360587266?s=20
20:45:47 <midipoet> I don't think price chat is promoted here. #monero-markets (I think)
21:56:27 <kinghat[m]> cake pay should allow you to see all the cards and discounts before asking you to create account/login.
23:08:26 <fr33_yourself[m]> <midipoet> "I had also planned to distribute..." <- Why were you advised against the flyers?
23:11:48 <fr33_yourself[m]> <CidadoisAncap[m]> "Serious questuion: is monero..." <- I would be surprised if Monero goes below $105-$110 prior to month's end. If it does then that's a pretty big move.
23:12:12 <gunslinger_zach[> If it does, I’m buying more
23:15:03 <fr33_yourself[m]> I agree, that's a good time to pick up some more if we see a severe drop like that.
23:17:16 <fr33_yourself[m]> <msvb-web> "The official direction has..." <- Did the people behind the conference explain why they are restricting Monero related discussion at the conference?
23:18:52 <fr33_yourself[m]> <ajs_[m]> "there has been a few proposals..." <- There are Monero markets. It's just they can only be accesssed via Tor or I2P :)
23:20:09 <fr33_yourself[m]> <monerobull[m]> "Idk about the web of trust thing..." <- You guys know DeSnake? What details do you have about his ideas regarding the decentralized market ecosystem? I've seen that it is a goal of his, but not sure if that will ever come to fruition...
23:21:12 <monerobull[m]> Looks like he single handedly brought alphabay back. 
23:21:32 <monerobull[m]> He probably is the most well-funded dev in the xmr ecosystem lmao
23:24:02 <fr33_yourself[m]> Haha true very true. I was thinking about that myself personally recently. If I had to guess, I bet his liquid networth is notably higher than Ulbricht's ever was. Think about it. He was with alpha02 during the early days and would've made some good coin then. Now he revamps AB solo and it quickly becomes the favorite in that space. He must be raking it in hand over fist.
23:25:08 <fr33_yourself[m]> However, don't you think a few of the early Monero team members probably ended up in quite nice positions? Think about fluffy and how much XMR he accumulated at sub $5 prices lol
23:45:15 <KNNY[m]> xmr is like the $5 foot long
23:45:15 <KNNY[m]> shits like $15 now
23:46:23 <KNNY[m]> should've invested in subway ☠️