02:28:04 "we could lower the gravity..." <- Bandwidth isn't determined by this. It's determined by physics and the FCC 02:33:37 "CCS to fund satellite launches 😎" <- It's more plausible than you think. I could set one up in space right now but I would get in massive trouble since it's not my personal asset. 03:24:30 > > <@rucknium:monero.social> CCS to fund satellite launches 😎 03:24:30 > It's more plausible than you think. I could set one up in space right now but I would get in massive trouble since it's not my personal asset. 03:24:30 Yolo it 11:42:14 njalla is 100% down 11:55:42 Including the servers they provide? 12:01:44 "njalla is 100% down" <- Someone probably doing the annual HDD rip 12:02:04 Seems like they do this often. They go down for days with no explanation. 12:02:04 https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/Monero/comments/sg8zup/moneropotcom_down/ 12:02:15 Who is stupid enough to use services like njalla, it's obviously yet another government honeypot 12:02:45 eh, im not going to host an onion site 12:02:53 I don't care but if they have downtimes for this long and this often you're a shitty provider 12:03:14 last random 4 day downtime time was literally like 2 or 3 weeks ago 12:03:17 s/you/they/ 12:03:19 s/time// 12:03:33 Did they provide any explanations at least? 12:03:54 Maybe the glowies took over lol 12:04:20 Imagine their staff be like. We are down all of our shit is fucked. We will just avoid the blame by being quiet 12:04:35 Our customers will think it's glowies fault 12:05:03 :D 12:05:05 my server is only paid for 4 more days and i have no way to top it up lmao 12:05:15 maybe i should just go to https://1984.hosting/ 12:05:24 Nah I can host it for cheaper 12:05:34 Trust me hahah 12:06:24 Btw Iceland might seem like some anon freak country. It's quite the opposite. When I lived there I was surprised that even gyms required your ID and they even scanned your retina. 12:07:00 i really only care about if the provider needs my real name or not 12:07:58 whats the best way to export my wordpress woocommerce store to a different provider? any way to just clone the whole setup? 12:08:25 Probably just export DB and copy the files 12:08:45 Nothing magical with PHP sites 12:08:53 Make sure the modules are the same and PHP settings 12:09:01 And also PHP version is the same 12:09:25 i dont store userdata so i can just remake the whole site from scratch in like an hour 12:10:19 That also works. Maybe it even has built in way to export products 12:10:26 Which could save you some time 12:10:59 I've done like hundreds of these shit PHP sites migrations. It got so boring that I decided to quit my job 12:11:41 yeah, products are the most time consuming part 12:12:16 i also have some hacky way to pick different shipping options, which i need to figure out again 12:12:46 My Njalla VPSes are still online. But yes https://njal.la/ is down. 12:13:15 nslookup doesnt even return an ip 12:13:26 Do their issued domains still function? 12:13:48 Their VPS solution is quite a garbage anyway 12:13:55 s/a// 12:15:11 Yes, domains still function. 12:15:19 Stnby: What do you recommend for VPS? 12:17:16 Rucknium[m]: Any provider that does not advertise itself as anonymous 12:17:45 i want someone that accepts monero 12:17:53 Maybe the cock.li people 12:18:08 As the company behind is in Seychelles 12:18:31 And they only accept Crypto 12:18:50 yeah no 12:18:54 cockli is all sold out 12:19:17 Oh off xD 12:19:35 But the thing is they still pay their provider in Fiat 12:20:43 You can try https://www.time4vps.com/ 12:21:08 I think they accept Crypto. I also have 1 VPS from them 12:21:32 They do accept crypto but not monero https://www.time4vps.com/knowledgebase/what-payment-methods-do-you-accept/ 12:21:49 njal.la up again 12:22:16 Stnby[m]: The use this datacenter https://www.rackray.com/ Worked for them before it's alright 12:22:30 * The use this datacenter https://www.rackray.com/ Worked for this DC before it's alright 12:27:00 "njal.la up again" <- No letter for explanation? 12:27:07 lmao of course not 12:27:11 Would they refund for the down time? 12:27:18 Or is there some sort of fine 12:27:18 they didnt even tweet that they were down 12:27:36 what do you think 12:27:51 As I said annual hard drive copy 12:28:06 Sent to all the alphabet agencies 12:28:18 Lmao 12:28:18 * to all of the alphabet 12:29:02 Although they could just copy all of your data very easily. They don't even provide VMS it's all LXC containers 12:29:40 Even with the shittiest VPS provider you could encrypt your data. Not the case with njalla 12:30:14 * your data with LUKS. Not 12:31:14 Stnby[m]: The fact that they provide LXD containers makes this more shady 12:31:25 Could someone with njalla VPS provide me a traceroute? 12:31:33 It's not a fucked up proxmox cluster or anything complex like that 12:31:48 Nothing can really go wrong with LXD containers, they're simple 12:32:15 s/LXC/LXD/ 12:32:21 Unless they were hosting every VPS in one physical server and that server shit itself 12:33:26 Stnby: I could if you told me how to do that. 12:35:45 Rucknium[m]: You can do something like this 12:35:45 `traceroute 1.1.1.1` 12:41:15 My sites up again 12:41:17 "maybe i should just go to https:..." <- Looks for something recommended by torrentfreak or privacytools.io 12:45:09 Certainly a better provider than njalla with higher reputation. I am just not sure if they require KYC 12:45:29 Also they only accept Bitcoin, no Monero 12:48:13 Who? 1984? 12:48:26 1984 accepts XMR and requires no KYC 12:49:46 "Who is stupid enough to use..." <- Obvious how? 12:50:05 Rucknium[m]: Really? 12:50:23 I do not see that they would accept XMR on their site 12:55:27 Yes. I use 1984 too and pay in XMR. 12:57:23 Main drawbacks are that they don't have a pre-pay wallet (every service payment involves an XMR tx) and they send you an email every time you pay in XMR, with no way to turn it off I think. 12:58:08 Oh so you have to pay monthly, manually? 12:59:03 Well you can pay for X months. But cannot have a pool of funds to pay from within the system. 13:00:31 Oh thats fine 13:01:46 I am curious how Njalla went down exactly as they even supposedly have 3 NS servers with different TLDs: 13:01:46 1-you.njalla.no 13:01:46 2-can.njalla.in 13:01:46 3-get.njalla.fo 13:01:58 Is this just a visual stunt? 13:12:42 They operate from here. Must explain downtime 13:12:51 * Stnby[m] uploaded an image: (6747KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/kernal.eu/EDEAorFISNDYyTBFkHiIpSdC/image.png > 15:35:46 Your beloved Protonmail alongside NordVPN (both are Tesonet companies) requested private data of Njalla users. Nord went a step further and sent a cease and desist letter to Njalla. 15:35:46 https://nitter.it/brokep/status/1453765410122354698 16:59:09 Still waiting for a Protonmail alternative :P 17:59:21 "Still waiting for a Protonmail..." <- Self host 18:00:15 I have a mail server running since 2012. Damn well. I don’t get the spam markings that lots of people report. DKIM works well for me, and I think o have some other verification stuff on there 18:04:24 aremor: Then you are just damned lucky. Word on the street for quite a while already seems to be that nowadays it's damned near impossible to run your own mail server 18:04:25 https://hackaday.com/2022/09/07/the-era-of-distributed-independent-email-servers-is-over/ 18:05:08 Ah, the real story is here: https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html 18:30:47 This is sad. Has anyone beem using email via i2p? Is that a viable and practical enough solution? 18:31:26 I.e. not only within, but to and from, of course. 19:03:49 If I self host I'm going to get hacked. Same with most people. 19:04:57 Lol 19:13:04 Maybe we should all trust aremor who will creaye an account for us. πŸ˜€ 19:13:29 create* 19:32:01 "aremor: Then you are just damned..." <- I’ve seen those articles too and was shocked to see it 21:02:20 why did the minimum fee change in the HF? shouldn't the free market determine what the fee should be? 21:03:56 The free market says you can use the previous version chain. 21:04:53 Monero has a dynamic block size, so the fee market is wayyyy different than bitcoin's. 21:06:04 So is the fee. πŸ™ 21:06:51 BusyBoredom[m] ok good point... so i can see why the fee wouldn't change on its own, but i still wonder why it changed though. 21:08:08 You can look at the week before the hard fork for a perfect example 21:08:13 The fee calculations changed to make it harder to spam attack the network. Without the changes, even a single wealthy individual could realistically harm the network. 21:08:41 The network was flooded with low fees on large tx 21:09:18 Some discussion of why the fee changed: https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/70 21:09:49 The max fee before was like 20c, where its around 5$ now. 21:09:50 Dont quote me 21:10:16 Some more discussion: https://mitchellpkt.medium.com/fingerprinting-a-flood-forensic-statistical-analysis-of-the-mid-2021-monero-transaction-volume-a19cbf41ce60 21:12:17 >At the time, the exchange rate for Monero was about 200 USD per XMR, so the cost of generating ~365,000 transactions would have been $1,000. A 2-in/2-out transaction weighs about 1.93 kB so these transactions would have added about 700 MB to the chain, at a cost of $1.40 per MB. 21:13:02 BusyBoredom[m] oh thanks. let me see if i can find more detail on that 21:15:14 Rucknium's links are the best starting points I know of. You could also dig up meeting logs if your curiosity is strong enough to warrant that much work. 21:27:47 i think my connection dropped; if a link was posted i don't have it 21:28:13 i did find this though: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7819 21:49:30 NorrinRadd: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20221002#c150167 22:00:09 Rucknium[m] Thanks! 22:02:41 BusyBoredom[m] so if the fee rises in that case, the spammer still harms everyone? because someone buying bread might have a tx fee of $5? 22:08:51 The spammer can drive up fees, yes. High fees were not the problem. 22:08:51 The problem was that the spammer would be able to generate a massive number of outputs that would be used as decoys in other people's transactions. That would mean the spammer could rule those decoys out, reducing the effective ring size of those transactions and _potentially_ allowing the spammer to deanonymize random users. 22:11:25 Monero is all about privacy. High fees are certainly a problem, but they're totally justified when they are necessary to protect user privacy. 22:11:30 Fees are part of the problem. 22:11:30 If the cost of an attack is negligible, an attack is inevitable 22:12:23 Buying groceries would only be 5$ if an attacker is willing to pay miners an extra $5/tx (and climbing) to continue to attack 22:14:22 As BusyBoredom: said, you said also tie this to the "cost to own decoys" being negligible