00:33:56 <plowsof> New stack wallet is out https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/xwr4ms/stack_wallet_updates_dark_mode_wownero_and_more/  also Rucknium -> "we added Bitcoin Cash" 
01:32:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Don't mind me. I'm still waiting for the non-doxxing version
01:35:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> "2. Stack Wallet is on F-Droid now! Big win for FOSS lovers everywhere. https://fdroid.stackwallet.com/. Instructions to add the app to your F-Droid are there."
01:35:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> ... intentionally dishonest? LOL Diego Salazar: ??
01:37:41 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Wut?
01:37:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> 1. Its not "on fdroid"
01:37:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> 2. A self hosted repo proves nothing and has nothing to do with open source. You can put whatever apk you want in there. So not a win in any sense. Just a convenience for non Google play users 
01:38:49 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Alright. Will change the wording. :)
01:38:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Adding an app to f droid signals that the app updates are reproducible.
01:38:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Your #2 implies this, but self hosted repos arent about Foss. They are about convenience.
01:38:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> You _can_ run a build server. Are you?
01:39:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> I appreciate it.
01:39:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont mind me being abrasive.. im sick and tired of companies, like session, lying their asses off
01:39:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tarnishing and abusing the name of "open source" and "privacy" 
01:40:13 <DiegoSalazar[m]> I've been in the Monero community for years. I'm used to people saying good things I agree with in abrasive ways. 
01:40:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> I know you've been around, but all I care about is honesty 
01:41:08 <DiegoSalazar[m]> In our case, at present, we absolutely have plans to get into F-Droid proper. For now though because we iterate quite quickly, doing a PR every time would add a lot of unnecessary overhead per release. 
01:41:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> DiegoSalazar[m]: You dont have to
01:41:47 <DiegoSalazar[m]> So allowing F-Droid access in the meantime via self-hosted repo is a good middle ground. 
01:41:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Examole: session.
01:41:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> We had enough of session lying and a user forked session. It auto builds at every release 
01:41:57 <DiegoSalazar[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I don't have to do anything, I know. I'm a grown man. 
01:42:05 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Oh wait. I see. :D
01:42:41 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Alrighty, taking a look into that next then. In the meantime I'll adjust the wording. 
01:42:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> DiegoSalazar[m]: Well damn. Sorry Diego he/him
01:44:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Diego Salazar: 
01:44:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> I dont know how to do the auto build
01:44:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Linsui on GitHub is the user who forked session, seemingly painlessly. Might want to check in with them
01:45:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Linsui isnt related to monero in any what that I know of. But seems to know their way around fdroid + GitHub Diego Salazar: 
01:45:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Any way*
01:47:10 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Changed wording:
01:47:13 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Stack Wallet can be added to F-Droid now via our self-hosted repository! Little win for FOSS lovers everywhere; people who have deGoogled can have easy access.
01:47:23 <DiegoSalazar[m]> You'll notice it is no longer a big win, but a little one. :D
01:48:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🥳
01:48:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Honestly, I like it lol
01:49:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Honesty**
01:50:16 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Not trying to intentionally lie. Other people have said "on fdroid" before, and it's getting into semantics. 
01:50:35 <DiegoSalazar[m]> But I aim to please so it's all good. 
01:50:46 <DiegoSalazar[m]> But reeing at me is pretty silly. 
01:51:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its not silly. Im bot singling you out
01:52:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Everybody claims to be private and open source while sharing your info with proprietary companies
01:52:14 <DiegoSalazar[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8bbrnr/monerujo_now_in_fdroid/
01:52:23 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Example ^
01:52:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> And as I always say, there are no monero wallets in f droid
01:52:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monerujo doesnt get a pass. I voted to remove it from recommendations on getmonero.org because its broken
01:53:04 <DiegoSalazar[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: To be fair, we are open-source. That claim is true. 
01:53:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dev is unresponsive and 🤷‍♂️.
01:53:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> But.. monerujo doesnt make any third party connections, unlike stack and cake.. so.....
01:54:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> DiegoSalazar[m]: Session claimed to be the same. But was using blobs where the source code is unavailable. And this is the real reason they didnt go fdroid
01:55:32 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Sure. That claim can be verified by non-coders when we get on F-Droid proper then. 
01:55:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Fdroid proper proves reproducibility - that the source matches the code.
01:55:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Session (and iirc signal both) ship source that doesnt match the code 
01:56:22 <DiegoSalazar[m]> Understood. We have nothing to hide, so after this next batch of features I'll prioritize getting on F-Droid proper by looking into the auto-build thing. :)
01:56:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Also, the apk on fdroid doesnt HAVE to match any of your releases. The same is nit true for fdroid proper
01:56:30 <DiegoSalazar[m]> And yes, no Frills is in the next batch of features. 
01:57:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> the apk on fdroid self hosted*
02:00:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> I have nothing to hide. I just dont appreciate telling corps like changenow and my isp when im checking or using my wallet.
02:00:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> My opsec is terrible. But seeing "changenow" on BT internet bill is a load of trash
02:00:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> My* internet bill
19:00:16 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 140: September 29 - October 6, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-140.html