00:04:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> But.. dontasktoask.com
00:06:39 <chesterfield[m]> <CidadoisAncap[m]> "Also, is there a way for..." <- It’s safer if the person accepting uses their own private node 
00:15:49 <Martin77[m]> is there a way to make a monero deposit safe since monero do not have smart contracts? 
00:16:47 <Martin77[m]> for ex i run business (anonymous uber ordering) user needed to deposit an xmr to my app 
00:16:48 <Martin77[m]> but how can i make the system trustless? 
00:21:48 <Martin77[m]> <merope> "Great, so what's your plan for..." <- 1. advocating people on how digital payments and the extinction of cash can be dangerous to our privacy & freedom 
00:21:48 <Martin77[m]> 2. build an infrastructure to exchange monero to your local currency easily it can be a ATM or manual tellers 
00:21:48 <Martin77[m]> 3.Infrastructure to spend your monero , for ex im planning to build an anonymous ride sharing ordering and anon bus/train credits payments
00:21:48 <Martin77[m]> so people in my country can ride uber and public transportation without compromised their privacy
00:21:57 <Martin77[m]> * 1. advocating people on how digital payments and the extinction of cash can be dangerous to our privacy & freedom 
00:21:57 <Martin77[m]> 2. build an infrastructure to exchange monero to your local currency easily it can be a ATM or manual tellers 
00:21:57 <Martin77[m]> 3.Infrastructure to spend your monero , for ex im planning to build an anonymous ride sharing ordering and anon bus/train credits payments
00:21:57 <Martin77[m]> so people in my country can ride uber and public transportation without compromised their privacy
00:22:14 <Martin77[m]> * 1. advocating people on how digital payments and the extinction of cash can be dangerous to our privacy & freedom 
00:22:14 <Martin77[m]> 2. build an infrastructure to exchange monero to your local currency easily it can be a ATM or manual tellers 
00:22:14 <Martin77[m]> 3.Infrastructure to spend your monero , for ex im planning to build an anonymous ride sharing ordering and anon bus/train credits payments
00:22:14 <Martin77[m]> so people in my country can ride uber and public transportation without compromised their privacy
00:22:37 <Martin77[m]> * 1.advocating people on how digital payments and the extinction of cash can be dangerous to our privacy & freedom 
00:22:37 <Martin77[m]> 2.build an infrastructure to exchange monero to your local currency easily it can be a ATM or manual tellers 
00:22:37 <Martin77[m]> 3.Infrastructure to spend your monero , for ex im planning to build an anonymous ride sharing ordering and anon bus/train credits payments
00:22:37 <Martin77[m]> so people in my country can ride uber and public transportation without compromised their privacy
05:01:13 <Siren[m]> <merope> "Great, so what's your plan for..." <- Step 1. Order "monero accepted stickers".
05:01:13 <Siren[m]> Step 2. Stick it on businesses' doors/interior.
05:01:23 <Siren[m]> * Step 1. Order "monero accepted here" stickers.
05:01:23 <Siren[m]> Step 2. Stick it on businesses' doors/interior.
05:22:38 <monerobull[m]> That's not how it works...
06:33:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> good way to piss people off
06:37:56 <ceetee[m]> Better use zcash sticker then
06:57:57 <Martin77[m]> > <@siren:kernal.eu> Step 1. Order "monero accepted here" stickers.
06:57:57 <Martin77[m]> > Step 2. Stick it on businesses' doors/interior.
06:57:57 <Martin77[m]> monero giveaways might work , but after there are places or infrastructure to spent them 
09:22:07 <layter[m]> Anyone in here know how I can purchase a domain name anonymously and which domain name service would you recommend?
09:35:17 <monerobull[m]> Orangewebsite or njalla
09:35:21 <monerobull[m]> With njalla you don't really own the domain though 
09:35:49 <monerobull[m]> They hold it for you so your info is protected 
09:35:56 <monerobull[m]> Can use monero at both services
10:23:17 <layter[m]> <monerobull[m]> "Can use monero at both services" <- Sweet! Thanks for the info 🙂
16:19:50 <plowsof> New ccs idea: support for monero in rotki https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/351
16:28:59 <jeffro256[m]> Wow that is a hefty price tag
16:31:03 <nioc> milestone 1,  we are clueless about monero, pay us to learn about it
16:31:11 <plowsof> lol
16:32:58 <nioc> rate of $114/xmr plus 50%
16:33:38 <nioc> for a portfolio tracking and accounting tool
16:34:18 <jeffro256[m]> Also rotki is a for-profit paid service? You can purchase subscriptions from them, why don't they use that money to develop their product?
16:34:23 <jeffro256[m]> https://rotki.com/products
16:34:47 <plowsof> the art there looks familiar 
16:35:05 <nioc> my portfolio tracking tool;  all in montero
16:39:21 <selsta> so they ask for a premium subscription but let others pay for development? lol
16:40:43 <jeffro256[m]> $11/month for dark mode, graphs, and web requests to Kraken
16:41:19 <selsta> and Higher Limits
16:43:02 <plowsof> how would i coordinate this then.. "we've had some immediate and passionate feedback, which is a good sign, most proposals are lucky to be discussed if at all" 
16:43:50 <jeffro256[m]> if (num_txs_processed >= freeloader_limit) { printf("buy our subscription with higher limits!"); stop_processing(); }
16:45:02 <selsta> the rate asked for what they want to implement is ridiculous, querying some transactions from rpc and importing it into their tool isn't that difficult
16:47:34 <jeffro256[m]> Seconded, the proposal itself isn't a bad idea. Open-source portfolio tracker is something I'm down with. It's just the fact they are asking for roughly $75000 USD to do some JSON requests in the background and integrating that UI into their own PAID software
16:48:07 <selsta> realistically this can be done in a day or two
16:48:18 <selsta> even without monero experience
17:13:05 <chesterfield[m]> The illustrations on the Rotki site look oddly familiar to those produced by a popular member of the Montero community.
17:13:12 <chesterfield[m]> Community xmr milking expedition
17:13:20 <chesterfield[m]> 🐄
17:13:23 <chesterfield[m]> <plowsof> "the art there looks familiar..." <- 👀
17:29:12 <Siren[m]> <plowsof> "New ccs idea: support for monero..." <- "A 50% margin is put on top like we do for all of our grant applications in order to account for taxes we owe due to the grant and for any unexpected developments."
19:02:34 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Sounds like swapping too fiat
19:02:55 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I reckon they should disclose stuff like that.
21:50:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Reposting here..
21:54:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anyone here mining with a 5950x? Can you share hashrate when mining with p2pool via gui
21:54:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Vs mining with xmrig > p2pool
21:55:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Specifically, its been reported that mining with p2pool via gui only achieves 7k h/s
21:57:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> 14+k reported by xmrig when mining on p2pool
21:57:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> My question is: direct comparison.
21:57:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> What does p2pool observer or p2pool status show for each.
21:57:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> I have a hard time believing that gui mines at a 50% lower hash then xmrig
21:58:25 <merope> the gui miner doesn't have MSR mods
21:59:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Correct 
22:00:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sech said that earlier, but also said 10-15%
22:00:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not 100%
22:01:04 <merope> you need to enable hugepages manually as well
22:01:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> endor00: 
22:01:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hinto (gupax ccs) has stated 7k>14k and was advertising gupax as being this much more beneficial.
22:01:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> I dont have access to a pc but  I have a hard tine believing that xmrig is actuslly 109% faster in practice 
22:02:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> The hr Hinto had shown was of xmrig's reported hashrate (without finding shares)
22:02:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> P2pool (from what I remember) only reports when you find shares, and averages out 
22:02:45 <merope> I have seen some newbies getting 7kH/s on a 3950X/5950X without hugepages+msr
22:03:05 <merope> And going to 15+ once they enabled both
22:04:12 <merope> honestly I'm more weirded out by the fact that they don't get 18-19 consistently (like some others do, depending on their ram and/or their motherboard)
22:05:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, hinto is getting 14k reported by xmrig 
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22:11:39 <nioc> ram timing gives you a decent boost, a few subtimings are important 
22:12:34 <nioc> 3900X at 3.9GHz I get ~15k
22:12:53 <merope> nioc: which ones, in particular?
22:13:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> nioc:  Via gui?
22:13:29 <nioc> the Trfc complex and Tfaw
22:14:22 <nioc> Trfc needs to be in a certain ratio with Trfc2 and Trfc4
22:14:41 <nioc> off the top of my head, hope that's right
22:14:58 <nioc> also Tfaw is 4:1 with another timing
22:15:10 <nioc> you set in the bios
22:15:37 <nioc> or if you are lucky and run windows you can use ryzen master from amd
22:16:20 <nioc> also undervolt the cpu to reduce cpu watts and keep it cool
22:17:40 <nioc> I have things written in a notebook which is.......somewhere
22:19:05 <spackle_xmr[m]> I usually solo mine using xmrig with my 5950x, just tried the GUI Wallet p2pool feature and got a ~15% decrease.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/ae67e595e06d18e95425a5c74be18a91c26b1fde>)
22:21:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thank you spackle_xmr: 
22:23:07 <plowsof> (but thats with all the 'mods' , not fair!)
22:23:27 <nioc> in line with what sech says
22:30:42 <nioc> can always go by what sech1 says