10:39:44 <Siren[m]> You can now hire Afghani people for Monero (not mine) https://exchange.successonly.work/
10:45:33 <plowsof> a Monero sticker in Kabul? escapethe3ra  https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/yt1nut/monero_sticker_spotted_in_kabul_new_monero_remote/
11:12:43 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Monero dev room is getting spammed hard
11:16:37 <TrasherDK[m]> Good thing you can ignore the spammer. I do so hours ago.
11:18:46 <plowsof> in matrix yes, (ignoring also deletes all their messages) - just waiting for a mod to come online Dan :'( 
11:20:08 <TrasherDK[m]> I'm in Element, clicking the avatar brings up info, and an ignore option 🙂
11:32:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Hide all messages from this user
11:33:25 <plowsof> Element has other privacy related features too, e.g. - do not load/display images by default, read receipts can also be disabled now!
11:35:34 <merope> <plowsof> "in matrix yes, (ignoring also..." <- It doesn't delete the messages that they've already sent iirc, just hides them. If you unignore them, they should show up again
11:41:16 <plowsof> s/deletes/hides 👍️
12:07:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ray
12:07:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think you need a smart friend 
12:12:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> <rayatina> "what do you guys think?" <- Should ask reddit what they think
12:18:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> rayatina: I think they are trolling you
12:19:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sorry irc guys
12:19:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> ray, we need to avoid the reply function 
12:20:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Dread" isnt a smart friend 
12:21:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> How about ratatina
12:21:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plowsof is smart but you dont listen good
12:22:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sounds good
12:23:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> "I got raided"
12:23:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> "I want to open a ccs"
12:23:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Plowsof is my smart friend"
12:23:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bad look
12:32:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Initiative, sure
12:32:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> But problems come before solutions
12:33:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> You offer things where its hard to understand what problem youre solving 
12:33:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Guides, for example. Are you somehow going to write better guides than already available via Seth and many others locations?
12:34:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Seth's website is accessible via onion, and its free
12:38:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> CCS =/= free
12:39:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, why would one choose your solution over monerodocs.org
12:39:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/monerodocs/md
12:40:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Solution in search of a problem 
12:40:38 <TrasherDK[m]> Giving back to the community, if the community pays. Is that how "giving back" functions?
12:43:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> A service that only exists in theory and will be created by someone who doesnt know much about the subject matter, and was recently raided 
12:44:20 <TrasherDK[m]> You mean, providing a framework for others to provide information, right?
12:44:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> I doubt that
12:44:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ray doesnt when know how to buy a good vps
12:45:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> But somehow wants to be paid to do so 
12:46:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Please dont use the reply function in this room
12:46:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or try not to
12:46:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> It makes for ugly messages on the irc side
12:52:46 <TrasherDK[m]> I'm curious. What is it you would like to be paid for?
12:54:18 <TrasherDK[m]> So you are looking for customers to a hosting bizz?
12:56:52 <TrasherDK[m]> You mean like Facebook, Twitter and Reddit kinda stuff?
12:58:24 <TrasherDK[m]> With a twist of Wikipedia 🙂
13:55:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ray, please
13:56:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> One day, maybe you'll get there. You're not ready yet
13:57:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> You need to prove to yourself that your ideas work
13:57:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Everything so far, appears to be not well thought out at all 
14:23:06 <nioc> I wonder who ofrnxmr[m] is talking to, cannot see
14:23:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rayatina
14:23:43 <nioc> I don't have anyone banned
14:24:10 <plowsof> every day -community is not bridged to irc, nioc grows stronger, soon he will become too powerful, please share to stop this threat to our safety 
14:24:38 <plowsof> wait, not -community , monero xD
14:24:48 <nioc> :D
14:30:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> <nioc> "I don't have anyone banned" <- Maybe im talking to my imaginary friend 
14:32:18 <plowsof> he's been shadow banned on irc then 
14:34:49 <ceetee[m]> no surprise
16:45:42 <plowsof> there is a MoneroKon meeting in the #monero-events:monero.social room at 18:00UTC 
16:47:52 <nioc> also in IRC #monero-events  :)
16:59:23 <plowsof> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) thank you
20:15:39 <roooooocc[m]> Hi, is there any rust crate for monero payments?
20:16:02 <NorrinRadd> roooooocc[m] what is a rust crate?
20:16:09 <NorrinRadd> a library?
20:16:50 <roooooocc[m]> Yes, that's what rust libraries/packages are called
20:17:15 <NorrinRadd> kayabaNerve ? ^
20:18:22 <NorrinRadd> roooooocc[m] i imagine there is, i'm just not aware of it.  Rust has an avid fanbase though.  Kayaba's work is the only rust / monero work that i've heard of before 
20:18:43 <NorrinRadd> roooooocc[m] if you lookup the Serai source you might find what you're looking for 
20:22:39 <roooooocc[m]> Thank you, I'll look into it! The only problem is converting from USD to XMR since floats are too inaccurate, there is a crate that has an accurate enough implementation 
20:22:39 <roooooocc[m]> Does anyone know the xmr precision limit? Like how many digits there are after the dot?
20:23:35 <NorrinRadd> roooooocc[m] 12 i think
20:23:41 <NorrinRadd> roooooocc[m] you can also ask in #monero-dev
20:24:18 <NorrinRadd> (all dev related questions)
20:26:33 <TrasherDK[m]> 1e12
20:27:22 <TrasherDK[m]> Also called atomic units.
20:38:32 <kayabanerve[m]> > <@rootkit.lol:matrix.org> Thank you, I'll look into it! The only problem is converting from USD to XMR since floats are too inaccurate, there is a crate that has an accurate enough implementation 
20:38:32 <kayabanerve[m]> > 
20:38:32 <kayabanerve[m]> > Does anyone know the xmr precision limit? Like how many digits there are after the dot?
20:38:32 <kayabanerve[m]> What exactly do you want to do?
20:38:38 <kayabanerve[m]> XMR amounts fit in u64s
20:38:53 <kayabanerve[m]> The issue is using floats, not the size of Monero's supply
20:39:37 <kayabanerve[m]> If you want do Monero transactions from Rust, monero-rs offers a RPC crate.
20:39:37 <kayabanerve[m]> If you want to do Monero transactions in Rust, I have a Monero transaction library.
20:40:54 <kayabanerve[m]> If you want to ping some price APIs, I'd probably point yo reqwest
20:41:01 <kayabanerve[m]> s/yo/to/
21:12:22 <roooooocc[m]> > <@kayabanerve:matrix.org> If you want do Monero transactions from Rust, monero-rs offers a RPC crate.
21:12:22 <roooooocc[m]> > 
21:12:22 <roooooocc[m]> > If you want to do Monero transactions in Rust, I have a Monero transaction library.
21:12:22 <roooooocc[m]> Could you provide a link to it? Thanks!
21:12:57 <roooooocc[m]> <kayabanerve[m]> "XMR amounts fit in u64s" <- If there is 0.0912312 XMR i.e. how does it work it being stored in u64
21:16:35 <plowsof> Atomic units?
21:18:53 <sech1> 0.0912312 XMR = 91231200000 atomic units (piconero)
21:24:45 <kayabaNerve> roooooocc[m]: https://docs.rs/monero-serai/0.1.2-alpha/monero_serai/
21:25:15 <kayabaNerve> The decimal point is just a human idea. You treat the 12th decimal as 1, as sech1 provided the conversion for.
21:26:10 <kayabaNerve> https://docs.rs/monero-rpc/latest/monero_rpc/struct.WalletClient.html for monero-rs's. Mine isn't thoroughly tested and isn't a wallet. It's a monero transaction library. monero-rs's will connect to the actual Monero wallet.
21:46:08 <roooooocc[m]> <kayabanerve[m]> "If you want to ping some price..." <- And how would you do the conversion? Let's say it gives the price in monero/usd, you would convert from monero (as floating point) to piconero, right?
21:50:55 <kayabanerve[m]> Correct
21:51:09 <roooooocc[m]> Awesome! Thanks for all the help
21:56:03 <roooooocc[m]> So 0.00786 XMR would be 7860000000 piconero?
22:02:01 <Siren[m]> yes
22:02:28 <Siren[m]> you can use this script to convert float xmr to piconero... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/015fd46336d34d55a560e814235625ccdf892ef3>)
22:02:33 <Siren[m]> that's what I always use
22:19:01 <TrasherDK[m]> Cool 🙂  Now do piconero to dec 😅
22:26:25 <TrasherDK[m]> printf "%.03f\n" `echo "0.000000000001 * 500000000000" | bc`
22:27:13 <TrasherDK[m]>  * ```
22:27:13 <TrasherDK[m]> printf "%.03f\\n" `echo "0.000000000001 * 500000000000" | bc`
22:27:13 <TrasherDK[m]> ```
22:27:44 <TrasherDK[m]> 0.500 🙂
23:30:17 <Siren[m]> <TrasherDK[m]> "Cool 🙂  Now do piconero to dec 😅" <- ```sh
23:30:17 <Siren[m]> #!/bin/sh
23:30:17 <Siren[m]> printf '%.12f\n' `echo "0.000000000001*$1" | bc`
23:30:17 <Siren[m]> ```
23:34:33 <TrasherDK[m]> Yes, but too many decimals: 0.5 => 500000000000 => 0.500000000000 🙂
23:42:30 <plowsof> are we having a bash-off? 🍿