01:39:25 endor00 he quadrupled the donation fee, not just double ( as there is a *=2 ) in the patch you missed. Just a heads up ! https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/299#note_19519 01:59:20 just set the fee to 50% and be done with it u know? 02:00:05 endor00 please ignore , it was set to 40 here https://github.com/plowsof/SolOptXMR/blob/c64f70c26185087d9a69b59475fd8683d7a2c500/util/run-xmrig.sh#LL20-L20C5 02:00:33 ask not what Monero can do for you, ask, what can I do for Monero? 02:00:39 good idea spacekitty 02:01:37 adding a hidden 40% dev tax is wild 02:04:51 oh wait it's a 80% dev tax 02:05:47 can't forget the *=2 indeed 02:06:07 well at least he didn't add a 100% dev tax :) 02:06:13 the *2 is only for minimum, 40 is the input straight up into xmrig i think 02:06:19 spacekitty420[m]: no 02:06:34 oh 02:06:38 well, R.I.P 02:06:46 how dare you disagree with my anonymous expert witness 02:06:50 all input gets doubled, and he also set the default from 1 to 2 02:08:45 well maybe is just for testing purposes and would have been edited before a public release, like, who knows, is like when adding comments in code then cleaning that up when product close to being finished, idk 02:09:41 like, could have be for troubleshooting purposes maybe 02:09:45 why is he asking for a payout for unfinished code? 02:10:07 and he still lied, claiming to doubled the default fee while in reality he quadruplet it 02:12:01 that's fair points yea... 02:13:41 that's a public release he shared on reddit with the goal that other people are supposed to run it 02:14:09 imagine others deploying this and unknowingly donating 80% away 02:16:37 no pre-built binaries available yet, would still have to manually run the scripts to compile, would hope those people would taken the time to edit properly rather than leaving the default values up, still that's pretty fucked up, like, yeah, fucked up x) 02:19:55 reminds me endor00 comment about who would be able to run this that are not living at mj's place cause is basically all set up for his own setup, comment was regarding other values that it would be stoopid to assume all the users would have the technical knowledge or whatever to tweak to values for their own setup rather than having the code already properly doing it for them 02:21:22 is good drama, thanks yall, reality tv thingy was following those past weeks literally just ended so... that's great <3 02:26:01 oh shit and past few days also watched "rat in the kitchen" is basically cooks that have to cook meals for the chef while 1 of them try to sabotage them, so rn is like exactly like that, who the dev that tryna sabotage the code basically 😹 02:27:24 🕵️‍♀️ 02:27:25 would you use a pre-built binary after seeing this? 02:28:18 full disclosure: we are attacking a project/person who is not in this channel to defend himself 02:28:28 trusted rehrar yesterday with stack wally pre-built binary and now am just worried he has hacked my entire home network so prob wouldnt... 02:28:38 :tinfoil: 02:29:37 yes he left when he was criticized 02:29:42 the code is completed as-is 02:29:43 to be fair tho, it was a zip and didnt expect it was pre-built.... 02:36:16 I would like to hear sech1 's view about these xmrig settings 02:38:05 i wonder who the anonymous expert witness is 02:41:44 plowsof: mj himself? cause at this point, why the fuck not? :derp: 02:42:20 or endor cause who else but the husband... :hyperthonk: 02:42:35 or ofrn cause the jelly ex o.o 02:42:50 the plot thickens :hyperthonk: 02:42:57 aight, ill show myself out, don't mind me 02:50:32 "full disclosure: we are attackin..." <- This is how the interweb works 02:56:27 Trocador.app is back online, we moved to another host. Still need to allow TOR, but https should be working. Sorry for the problem guys, hope you still enjoy our Swaps. 03:37:55 Now onion for TOR is back online boys, happy trading everyone 04:10:36 unable to install anonero app 04:10:36 parsing error 04:30:16 do you have a telegram devduck? https://t.me/anonero 04:59:55 no 05:00:05 the apks are same 05:00:17 i think 05:00:17 can you send me working apk 05:00:23 plowsof: 05:05:20 are there no public apks available? 05:06:39 is it literally 'heres the source with build instructions'? https://gitea.com/ANONERO/ANON/releases 06:30:39 "or ofrn cause the jelly ex o.o" <- Spacekitty is my jealous ex 06:30:52 "would you use a pre-built binary..." <- Yo'o 06:31:00 * Yolo 06:49:03 "the apks are same" <- Contact raver23 07:30:39 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (261KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/kPvJddisFNaViLtFyqGxuibl/image.png > 07:30:40 can confirm 07:48:55 Cap. Show the video 07:48:56 I lied. Spacekitty is my crazy stalker ex 07:48:56 ofrnxmr[m]: That stick is a branch, btw. Mad because I forked off 07:50:00 ofrnxmr[m]: https://piped.mha.fi/watch?v=XwVEJ0sj1QQ 07:51:24 Can only post the real video in monero-pools 07:53:55 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (11KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/kHYFtwVHroanIgUSNhjrgDIV/image.png > 07:54:21 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (5KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/LaGQBLZlpaKxsBLUlihujhHz/image.png > 07:54:33 none of those monero pools even working no more anyways 07:55:05 Sent invite 07:55:06 was just a bunch of weirdos in their, like, full of tinfoil, back in 2020 was literally saying is the tinfoil covid channel cause it was all that was about 07:55:08 fuck that LOL 07:55:12 nah 07:55:38 they too cringe over there 08:16:03 "endor00 he quadrupled the..." <- Shit, I hadn't even noticed that! Thank you for catching it 08:17:34 dev fee going brrrrrr 08:22:37 80% fee, must be some testing code, right? right? 08:23:45 it has been stated that it was the public release so testing code shouldnt be there or somethin 08:26:06 could also have been testing code that was forgotten to be removed cause too much cafeine and adderal and all the thingies combined or somethin 🤷‍♀️ 08:26:28 like, honest mistakes do happen, sometimes 08:28:05 "forgotten" 08:34:13 https://github.com/mj-xmr/SolOptXMR/blob/master/docs/automation.md#L292 08:34:14 From what I see in the docs mj added, users are just supposed to add that script in rc.local, so that it gets executed automatically on the mining rig after it gets the wake-on-lan signal 09:29:03 "full disclosure: we are attackin..." <- Well he should be here to defend himself 09:29:26 We are funding him and talking to a wall 09:31:08 plowof and luigi already mentioned those issues on the ccs page, he'll prob get to answer to them eventually over there 09:52:28 "Well he should be here to defend..." <- I was under the impression that the project was mj + endor. 09:52:28 Mj's comments imply that it is mj's. The proposal also states that mj will complete it in full, alone, if endor was to be unable. The xmrig donation also goes towards mj's personal wallet (seemingly endor was unaware) 09:52:29 Holy fuck that is malicious 09:52:30 The only reason mj is not around anymore is because he was called out. He used frequent mrl, dev, community etc (when he was billing for his time here) 09:55:17 I heard some stuff from mj himself where he was victimizing himself, claiming some people created alts to harass and stalk him. 09:55:47 Threatening to shoot a dev, refusing to apologize and showing himself the door 09:56:45 And that's why he left XD 09:56:46 Some things he say are plain creepy or unnecessary, so that's not really surprising 09:56:46 Rager 09:56:53 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (36KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/zkQkBSzwKwJaHpgERZfmbMOX/Imagepipe_584.jpg > 10:01:00 Look at this billing.... (full message at ) 10:01:39 Plowsof will need to get the big stick out now, so people honour there funded proposals 10:02:22 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7760 10:02:25 2hrs bills to shitpost 10:02:29 ^ this is the dev he threatened to shoot 10:04:54 Not good 10:04:54 Use your own judgement. Did mj review that pr? 10:04:54 How come 10hrs for remote access setup? 10:04:59 Btw. He was paid, because nobody wanted to deal with his kicking and screaming 10:05:05 DanIsnotthemanBr: Because hes a scammer? 10:05:26 Brb creating proposal 10:05:27 Its not the first ccs. How many times do you need to set it up? 10:05:34 "Everytime" 10:06:00 Over 13hrs to count hours? Lol 10:08:30 Spitting in all of our faces.. then a month ago he tried to get paid half of a milestone before the milestone is completed. Rejected. 10:08:31 Now he wants everything except for half a milestone, and "wants it now" or else its a conspiracy. Lmao. 10:08:31 Scummy scum 10:08:31 -.- 10:08:47 Some people are diluted 10:09:44 Spent 2 years milking it with everyone giving the benefit of the doubt.. 10:09:55 Me, myself, I only caught on once he put up his billing 10:10:48 Then I looked into his other stuff, like billing to capitalize words 10:11:13 Lol 10:11:14 Merged pr's that got rolled back 10:11:14 False numbers for optimizations etc. 10:11:14 Am I saying hes trash? No. Im saying he needs to stop trying to be slick 10:11:50 Seems fraudulent 10:12:01 Just a bit 10:12:44 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/vf7bcn/mjs_dev_report_mayjune_2022_33/ 10:13:07 Btw, heres a link to the accounting, posted by mj himself. So you know im not just making stuff up 10:18:05 Rucknium seems to be the only person who mj is doing right by (?) 10:18:11 https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/Rucknium-OSPEAD-Fortifying-Monero-Against-Statistical-Attack.html 10:32:52 So where is it at now? 10:47:14 "Use your own judgement. Did mj..." <- nope 11:17:00 endor00: will you guys present soloptxmr at monerokon 2023? 11:24:15 what are you good at? 11:24:16 "wut do?" <- Work on internet 11:24:40 Show your site 11:26:07 go work as a sysadmin 11:30:34 ah so it gotta be crypto 11:30:34 rayatina: Ever heard of HTTP2 or even better HTTP3? 11:30:34 rayatina: are you familiar with wg, docker and prometheus? 11:30:34 learn kubernetes 11:30:35 Nginx configs are pretty fucking shit to master, try out Caddy 11:30:35 Your onion site is down as well 11:30:56 yeah 11:33:17 screw ansible, go learn kubernetes 11:33:17 Siren[m]: Damn that's a hard one 11:33:17 by the time he grows up ansible will be obsolete 11:33:17 it already is 11:33:17 Always was 11:33:17 NixOS or Kubernetes :D 11:34:01 rayatina: Now its up 11:35:15 > <@rayatina:monero.social> Now its up 11:35:15 > sounds like a problem on your end not gonna lie 11:35:15 Out again :D 11:35:50 Maybe extremely slow 11:38:01 "i also set up an email server..." <- What kind of email server are you running? 11:40:07 rayatina: *smtp 11:43:06 Nice setup tho, just I advise you to not leave these 11:43:06 `curl https://xmr.beauty/.git/refs/heads/main` 11:43:06 "endor00: will you guys present..." <- I have no plans to be at Monerokon, why? 11:43:06 As when you work somewhere and they figure that you did this and leaked corporate source code you would be in a deep shit 11:45:16 Yeah, but just a good practice, I assume you did not want to have this "feature" 11:45:40 merope: mj said he wants to present so I was thinking maybe he's planning to present soloptxmr and you know about it? 11:46:26 Nope, no idea 11:46:35 "i use either terms" <- They're different protocols 11:47:25 Siren[m]: You need both to receive/send 11:49:24 > <@rayatina:monero.social> are you familiar with wg, docker and prometheus? 11:49:24 > everyone knows abt docker, nothing new 11:49:24 Good, but the best thing you can learn rn is kubernetes 11:49:25 Everyone wants kubernetes now 11:53:16 :)) 11:53:17 rayatina: It's not ideal when you have few thousand servers and you need to scale 11:59:29 Diversity points aren't real 12:00:01 Nobody will hire you for reasons other than your skillset 12:00:02 rayatina: That's simply not true 12:00:58 The main reasons are your skillset and legal hassles such as does he need a work permit/visa 12:00:59 Anything else doesn't matter 12:00:59 Businesses are economically motivated, they don't care about diversity 12:03:36 rayatina: Also have Tor services on another daemon or some sort of port isolation 12:03:36 `torsocks curl -v yd77w3djyoyex6uq3y66tbwfqru6psinf5lxcfr3dpqgzuopqemrldqd.onion -H Host:xmr.beauty` 12:03:36 Also it's more like language than race. 12:03:37 rayatina: Yeah sure they can hire you based on your race to place in HR (although even there they don't care), but this surely doesn't happen in IT roles. 12:04:51 It has never mattered and it will never be 12:04:51 Write his contacts Siren maybe we will find him some work :D 12:04:51 Unless your ass is sanctioned 12:07:08 Then I'm gonna rule the world or something bruh 12:07:08 Your average university graduate does not know how to install Nginx, and this guy at 14 already knows searxng is > searx 12:07:08 Stnby[m]: Yeah we already could give him some tasks 12:07:09 Siren[m]: When we get some new customers. 12:07:09 s/is// 12:07:09 rayatina: Do you know Docker? 12:07:39 Because you hate it? 12:11:19 Docker is also command line, but I kind of get what you mean 12:11:20 people from my previous work also prefered to upgarde some apache php5 cancerware by hand on 100s of servers at a time 12:11:21 rayatina: That's not the point of docker 12:11:21 Stnby[m]: It's more like this 12:11:22 Oh and those servers used to be a mix of Debian Ubuntu Centos all different versions 12:11:23 With docker it just works (most of the time) XD 12:11:54 Dependency hell kind of thing 12:11:55 Imagine having to deploy some shit python server 12:11:55 sure if its the only thing on that server it will work 12:11:59 but now you deploy a 2nd different shitty python server 12:13:53 good luck with ufw 12:13:54 They don't play too well 12:19:10 delete the email server and host synapse or dendrite instead 12:19:10 rayatina: whas the user? 12:19:10 > <@rayatina:monero.social> *email 12:19:10 * what's the user? 12:35:35 "*email" <- you only gave the domain without the user 13:48:36 "but if you need it it's ahmed⊙." <- you are a muslim? :) 13:59:35 🦢 14:40:16 > <@rayatina:monero.social> you are a muslim? :) 14:40:16 > yes. 14:40:16 Mashaallah, Allah willing Monero will succeed 🙏 14:41:55 😁 14:44:31 :D 14:44:31 Alhamdulillah 16:07:46 Yes we are all Turks 💪💪🇹🇷 16:07:46 I can confirm 🇹🇷 🇦🇿 🪳 16:57:39 🍋 for XMR 16:57:40 "My president is a watermelon..." <- I'm a 🍋 seller 🇹🇷 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-DsI_wmk-fk 19:00:46 I'll address the mj situation: 19:00:55 I have been working with mj on and off for several months. I lack the technical background to judge his overall work on the Monero protocol. 19:01:11 From what I can judge, he seems to be a competent C++ coder. In June he converted the C++ wallet2 decoy selection code to Python. I was able to replicate the results in R: https://github.com/mj-xmr/monero-mrl-mj/commits/master/decoy 19:01:22 Therefore, from what I can judge, he can perform. I am willing to listen to critiques of his overall work of course. 19:01:32 In his last maintenance CCS he did do a lot of work that requires little skill. That looks bad, but it's missing context. There is a huge backlog of code improvements to the protocol that have not been reviewed and merged. 19:01:52 Given the sensitivity of the code base and the limited labor resource of Monero protocol developers and repo maintainers, the slow rate of review is understandable. Off the top of my head, I can think of three big improvements that took six months or longer to be reviewed and merged. 19:01:58 ooo123/perfect-daemon's monerod reliability improvements, the multisig vulnerability fix (also helped by perfect-daemon), and rbrunner's RPC call efficiency improvements. 19:02:49 rbrunner's PR actually has sat for almost 12 months, still unmerged with over 100 comments: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8076 19:02:50 TheatPR is going to have a birthday in less than a week. 19:02:55 That PR* 19:04:37 Part of the funds from mj's first CCS were put into the General Fund because of review and merge issues: https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/mj-compil-time-reduction.html 19:04:53 I am not surprised that mj eventually started fixing very easy things in the Monero repo when his previous work sat unreviewed and unmerged. I can't judge all of the billed time well since I'm not a real programmer and I don't know the expected work flow and time to completion. Some of it does seem excessive. 19:05:17 On other things: I condemn mj's apparent threat against ooo123 in this channel a few months ago. I do not support the xmrig config change to the donation for this CCS completion. (For future unfunded maintenance of SolOptXMR I think it's reasonable to have a "donation" in the config file as long as the CCS-funded version stays with the default donation to xmrig developers.) 19:05:45 In August mj approached the MAGIC Monero Fund about a project to work on Monero's statistical attack vulnerabilities. Since it mostly involved work that would improve OSPEAD, it put me in a position I didn't want to be in. (I'm the OSPEAD researcher and also on the committee that decides on grants and fundraising campaigns for the MAGIC Monero Fund.) 19:06:08 The committee voted to host a fundraiser for it. I recused myself from the vote: https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/minutes/2022-08-30/ 19:06:28 MAGIC hasn't launched the fundraiser yet since we are finishing a fundraising website https://github.com/MAGICGrants/opensatswebsite . mj has put in some work already: https://github.com/MAGICGrants/Monero-Fund/issues/21 19:06:50 From the start of OSPEAD, the plan was to have mj and/or jberman help with the C++ work that I can't do: https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/Rucknium-OSPEAD-Fortifying-Monero-Against-Statistical-Attack.html 19:07:13 In a June MRL meeting I asked if there were any C++ programmers who wanted to pick up the C++ work for OSPEAD: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20220629#c113691 19:07:32 Only mj and jberman (with conditions) were willing and able. mj can work on OSPEAD. Meanwhile jberman can push Seraphis forward. 19:07:53 I hope my relative optimism about mj is not misplaced. 19:08:13 In conclusion, the Monero Project needs more C++ programmers for development and code review. The lack of C++ programmers is bottlenecking a huge amount of work. Plus, from an economic perspective more competition tends to improve the quality of service provided by existing purveyors. 20:26:36 what you think about MoneroShopping proposal? 20:28:12 nice idea but, they have no proven experience / admit they've never done it before- also the proof of concept is breaking some open source license 20:32:37 what do you think about the monero shopping proposal MajesticBank 20:38:42 rayatina: https://moneromarket.io 20:39:39 inspires me of "put Monero flag on the moon" for 5000 XMR CSS 20:40:04 1 milestone - create space rocket 20:40:23 5000 xmr sounds like a good deal for that , im interested 20:42:26 when it was launched there were GPUs and laptops 20:42:28 proxy merchants / giftcards are a great offramp for spending crypto. at the moment they have a url and no experience , what can we say? 20:42:50 flag on the moon or "make tesla accept monero" 20:43:16 Xmr yacht 20:43:59 haha, that there was that website to make tesla to accept xmr around the time musk announced about accepting bitcoin, half of xmr community were like "fuck off with that, fuck musk" LOL 20:45:42 we put it forward to the CCS and funded it 😳 20:46:16 rayatina: something like scihub? 20:46:21 is not p*rn, is science 20:47:03 flag on moon, just pay NASA, they are going back to the moon in 2024 20:47:15 55 years after the first time they went 20:47:32 55 years before the first time would be 1914 20:47:46 barely had cars then 20:47:56 not much "progress" 20:48:26 we have fold able phones now though, we've come a long way 20:48:41 nioc: are u sayin moon landing is fake? :tinfoil: 20:49:18 well, implying 20:49:25 no 20:49:42 aight 20:51:40 i would like to see ccs from MentalOutlaw / andrewguy 20:52:46 > <@rayatina:monero.social> something like scihub? 20:52:46 > 20:52:46 > i guess, but not as niche as science 20:52:46 what if i told you, there's that website that has all the books that ever existed and will ever exist in the future? https://libraryofbabel.info/browse.cgi 20:55:09 yup, all the books in the future, it already has it all o.o 20:55:34 :3 21:02:28 we have an open ccs for sponsoring MoneroTalk - i know Doug has mentioned he plans on getting paid out for it - I need to poke him 21:04:39 wasn't for monerotalk sponsoeship 21:05:10 he was going to quit his job and expand his role 21:05:56 monerotalk was key for sure 21:06:45 don't know if that actually happened 21:07:00 didn't quit his job no (from what i've seen) 21:13:02 He has other sponsors now. Independent funding now ? Not From css 21:13:25 Were there some metrics/reports by him? 21:18:58 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/250 21:20:43 not sure how there could be metrics, impact on adoption would be something really hard to measure 21:20:43 like, sure there's youtube views but it's definitely not just that, meetups at events, then those other people might not adopt be into xmr right away but look into it a bit more later on then to their turn do some shilling and whatnot, like, that's not something that can be easily quantified, organic adoption happens and what he doing definitely helps on that 21:21:08 s/adopt// 21:21:23 20:04 I am not surprised that mj eventually started fixing very easy things in the Monero repo when his previous work sat unreviewed and unmerged. <-- but this wasn't without reason? <-- but that's not what happened really 21:21:42 wait i wrote this twice lol 21:22:51 for example here: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7679 21:23:27 every dev in the team told him adding another abstraction layer is the wrong approach, he did in anyway and opened a large PR with it, obviously it will stay unmerged. 21:25:52 spacekitty420[m]: when you are paid by the community you must respond to the community, that's how ccs works 21:26:18 open-source, show youtube stats, show when you promoted all monero wallets etc 21:26:33 just sayin, some things are more easy to have proper metrics 21:27:38 also bug fixes get merged in monero, he did not do bug fixes. most of his changes were microoptimisations to CI, build system and tests 21:27:41 But if you have cake wallet and steathx sponsors? 21:27:59 like, lets sayin daddy elon stumbling upon one of doug's youtube video then elon twatting about monero, that's just one youtube view but millions of people seeing elon's twat without knowing it was influenced by doug 21:29:05 here is an example of a "optimization": https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7469 21:29:08 True. But if you have external income coming in, should you still needed to be funded? 21:29:22 it adds a bunch of code and as moneromooo commented it's the wrong approach in the first place, again no surprise that it won't get merged 21:30:04 spacekitty420[m]: you say we should accept speculative milestones ? 21:30:20 No consensus 21:31:54 I could list this in a lot of detail but I think it's unfair Rucknium[m] that you blame the devs when the reasons for the lack of merges were code quality and usefulness related 21:35:55 20:02 rbrunner's PR actually has sat for almost 12 months, still unmerged with over 100 comments: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8076 <-- 100 comments shows that things are proceeding, but we would ideally need some kind of stress test to see how this patch behaves when the tx pool is under load 21:36:08 selsta: I'm glad you've given more info. I've quipped in private that we should have a public trial of mj. Only half jokingly because the people who can really judge mj's work haven't spoken up much and then rumors fly. 21:36:11 it's a large patch that changes critical code that can affect node stability 21:36:53 we almost have to make a tradeoff between current code stability and improvements, and sometimes being more careful is the right approach 21:36:54 MajesticBank: no idea, all i sayin is that he been doing the hours on his things, doing the videos, the events if yall not happey with amount of those milestones then that's an other thing but he definitely been doing the work and accurate metrics are not as easy to give than from different type of works is all... 21:37:46 It's hard to see through all of the details in this story. My general impression is that mj is a competent coder who wants to help Monero but there is a mismatch in what types of tasks he wants to (or can) take on and what the protocol development needs. 21:38:38 And if it is just a mismatch, then transitioning him to MRL work could make a lot of sense 21:41:14 spacekitty420[m]: I am even maybe myself interested in sponsoring MoneroTalk, however this is community money 21:41:14 i have fixed more bugs in the monero-gui than mjxmr and i don't even know what c++ is 21:41:18 if sounds fair since he definitely has those skillz that are scarce and him working with MRL would mean more eyes on his code so more audit and whatnot 21:41:49 (regarding mj) 21:41:52 the community sponsored him 15 hours a week * 3 months to 45eur / hour to work on the Monero GUI 21:42:59 competency and 'actually doing things' matter 21:43:04 one thing tho, could that also bring some potential dramas into mrl? 😹 21:43:56 by seeing these two pull request, seems there is no sync with other devs 21:44:03 mj has a proposal for funding by MAGIC now 21:46:04 plowsof : he read the monero gui issues, tested things, and submitted patches for some trivial (yet unsolved) bugs https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues?q=is%3Amerged+author%3Aplowsof+ 21:46:04 mjxmr: see for yourself https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues?q=is%3Amerged+author%3Amj-xmr 21:46:34 3 months of funding everyone, thanks! 21:47:23 his only other GUI PR was abandoned after I asked for more information https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/3858#issuecomment-1070867926 21:48:39 Which CCS proposal do you mean? The most recent one did not focus only on GUI. With the MAGIC proposal, if he doesn't produce, then he doesn't get paid. 21:49:55 And the work scope is defined pretty clearly 21:50:03 im seeking his ccs 21:50:18 Rucknium[m]: https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/mj-part-time-2022-q2.html 21:50:24 GUI work is part of his CCS 21:51:41 I don't think mj is a perfect worker. Could he improve? Definitely. Do we have a different way to get C++ OSPEAD work done that doesn't slow down Seraphis and maintenance work? I don't think so. Recruit more devs, but how? 21:52:43 Ruck, look at his billing. 21:52:44 Recruit more devs - by having a mentor like mj-xmr to help them learn 21:52:51 ask endor 21:53:33 That's neither competence nor honest. Its malicious 21:53:34 My kindgom for a C++ dev. 21:53:40 No one expects perfect workers here. 21:53:46 kingdom* 21:54:22 but OSPEAD is funded by the CCS - MAGIC/mj-xmr is not our concern 21:55:13 I asked mj to debug a GUI bug, it shouldn't be an issue to figure this out with a "decade of IT experience", he spent a whole day setting up his dev environment and then told me can't reproduce. 21:55:39 Flat out lying about work done, billing over 13 hours to count hours, 10 hours to set to his pc for remote work 21:55:43 I managed to solve it without reproducing too. I feel like there was a clear lack of interest in even trying. 21:56:34 remember the monero-bash we all 'hated' because it was 'just bash' - hinto would never in a million years - ' hard code the version of xmrig ' in anything he would release. never. mj? compotent c++ developer? 21:57:20 endor cites more issues but e.g. https://github.com/plowsof/SolOptXMR/blob/c64f70c26185087d9a69b59475fd8683d7a2c500/util/build-xmrig.sh#L3 21:57:53 Sounds like we need monero court 21:58:02 Proving his competency in other areas merely supports the fact that he doesn't care ? 21:58:50 When asked if solopt is completed as-is, he replied: "Yes. Signing with my name." 21:58:51 plowsof: >Just bash 21:58:51 I bet you won't like wireguard userland tools when you figure out what it actually is 21:59:07 And this completed as-is version contains a hidden 80% dev tax. 21:59:11 * >Just bash 21:59:11 I bet you won't like wireguard userland tools when you figure out what they actually are 21:59:18 With a 40% donation? 80%*? 21:59:25 Jesus 21:59:32 Either it's malicious, or he didn't even bother to read his own code once before asking for a payout and marking it as "completed". 21:59:35 full disclosure: i love bash, its hard to learn/use 22:00:16 Revuo Monero. Issue 146: November 10 - 17, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-146.html 22:00:17 He didnt tell endor either selsta: 22:00:38 so he's risking my reputation as ccs coordinator and endors reputation if we didnt spot that 22:00:51 Yes I said that I did not agree with that at all. And that has happened after MAGIC voted on the proposal to host a fundraising campaign. Maybe it doesn't raise funds and that's that. In that case OSPEAD will have blindspots, which turns into spotlights for Monero adversaries. 22:01:07 Ruck 22:01:08 But we are dealing with limited resources, so sometimes that's how it goes 22:02:29 Lol, if mj works well with you, so be it 22:02:29 But I bet endor thought like you when he entered into his arrangement with him 22:02:29 And the community supported mj's facade for years 22:02:44 I brought up the community concerns to the MAGIC Monero Fund committee at the time of the vote. As i said before, it puts me in a position I don't want to be in. 22:03:00 Those in the know kept quiet. But his pattern of behavior continues with soloptxmr 22:03:25 He speaks badly of endor, and uses GitHub commits as a measurement 22:03:32 When you look at the commits, its mj moving code around over and over 22:03:40 A large part of his work is changing READMEs on Github. 22:03:49 and yes, moving around code in various ways 22:05:01 Rucknium[m]: how does mj's current work differ from the previous fee research done by noncesense-research-lab? 22:05:06 There cannot be a facade with this MAGIC fundraiser. There is: Did you fingerprint MyMonero txs based on fees? yes/no. Did you reproduce a scripting language's statistical estimation procedure for C++? Yes/no. Did you translate MyMonero's decoy selection algorithm into Python? Yes/no 22:05:11 current work on fees 22:05:24 he does not acknowledge the 'consensus' of the ccs neither. (but it was fine when his dev proposals where being pushed through by it)? 22:07:03 selsta: Completely different. We didn't know that MyMonero had fingerprintable fees when Noncense did their research. jberman discovered it. 22:07:03 The consensus is simple. The proposal States that mj will COMPLETE the ccs, with or without mj 22:07:04 i would feel uncomfortable attending monerokon with someone who has made public death threats 22:07:04 "And claims the project is "his"..." <- I have a feeling he'll try to present soloptxmr solo at monerokon, that's why I asked earlier 22:07:04 Not that you can get paid before completion and run away 22:07:04 Or without endor* 22:07:09 He only had 3 panels and a couple batteries when I had asked him 22:07:34 And who, to this day, stands by them 22:07:38 I don't agree with mj's behavior with SolOptXMR. But endor didn't perform (seemingly through no own-fault) and mj more or less made the initial deadline. 22:07:44 Using comments like "I dont need a gun" 22:09:39 Rucknium[m]: Mj did not make the initial deadline 22:09:39 Ok, missed it by 10 days. Much better than a lot of CCSes 22:09:40 Solopt is not complete, even with endors missing additions 22:09:40 Its an 80% dev tax with a hard coded version of xmrig that only works on a specific setup. Was the ccs for a POC? 22:09:40 So, anyway, when is Core going to use the General Fund to recruit C++ devs? 22:09:54 binaryFate @binaryFate:libera.chat: 22:10:16