00:01:05 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Web 5 or gtfo ;) 00:28:22 <alpharabius[m]> Web 6? 00:29:16 <alpharabius[m]> I want to be part of something 00:29:31 <alpharabius[m]> I want to join a group 00:30:11 <alpharabius[m]> Join a project 00:30:12 <alpharabius[m]> Help the project succeed 00:30:12 <alpharabius[m]> Make naira 00:30:31 <alpharabius[m]> Make xmr 00:33:31 <DanIsnotthemanBr> You need some weed, your too excited 00:34:10 <alpharabius[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: I just want to join a project in it's beginning stages and be part of a crew 00:34:13 <alpharabius[m]> Make friends 00:34:23 <alpharabius[m]> Be happy for once in my life 00:36:27 <spacekitty420[m]> it's easy, just watch the movie "die welle", it'll have everything u need to know on how to join a crew and make frens o.o 00:37:49 <spacekitty420[m]> nioc: and yas i know i watch too much tv! 00:38:56 <nioc> I threw away my TV 30 years ago 00:39:06 <nioc> ok 20 years 00:39:30 <spacekitty420[m]> oh, never had one, when i mean tv i mean watching movies and tv shows illegally for free on the computer 00:40:23 <nioc> turned on the TV in a hotel room 5 years ago and the same programs were on 00:40:27 <nioc> well different programs but same story 00:41:05 <nioc> and then you see the view of the world that is packaged for you to see 00:41:23 <spacekitty420[m]> damn... for me is the whole ads that's a massive turnoff on those, so yeah, being a criminal has it's advantages cause you don't have those ads being spammed for 15mins every 15mins 00:41:56 <spacekitty420[m]> not spending half of your day watching ads = piracy 00:43:28 <spacekitty420[m]> arrrrrr 00:43:34 <spacekitty420[m]> rawr 00:45:49 <spacekitty420[m]> then there's that linus tech tip guy on youtube that also made a video couple years ago about a smart tv that it was sending all your data to china or somethin, even had a mic and cam on it, that's creepy af 00:46:26 <spacekitty420[m]> computer screen better imo, like, better to play video games, better to read text, better everything and now "smart-bs" o.o 00:46:38 <spacekitty420[m]> s/now/no/ 00:51:27 <nioc> I have never had a camera or mike on a comp and the only smart device I have ever had is a phone 00:53:44 <nioc> plowsof: was just looking at jberman's CCS and I don't see what months it covers. I looked at the previous one and same thing. That last one is completed and the only payout I see is for Nov 4 00:53:48 <spacekitty420[m]> used to back in the days to play world of warcaft, like for pvp arena at high elo, had to but yeah even then it was usb, not directly integrated like they doing nowadays on those macintoshs or literally every laptops (except a very few like zephyrus and such) 00:57:09 <spacekitty420[m]> to this day still havent found a single laptop that had a ryzen pro (so could do have that AMD-SEV for the encryption in ram for the virtual machines and whatnot) that didnt have a cam/mic built in... that's pretty sad tbh.... 01:00:51 <plowsof> nioc it appears to be buggy/glitched - his payments where definitely sequential (he even worked over his hours and claimed payouts late) infact the entire the entire 'completed' page seems buggy to me (unrelated) 01:01:07 <jberman[m]> nioc: my goal is (and has been for each of my CCS's) to complete the CCS within 3 months of the start date, but the promise of the CCS is 480 hours in case it takes me longer than 3 months to complete (12 weeks * 40 hours per week = 480 hours). I didn't request payout on my last CCS until after I had completed (more than) the total promised number of hours 01:02:16 <nioc> jberman[m]: thx for the clarification, and thank you for all that you do <3 01:02:42 <spacekitty420[m]> wen nioc ccs? 01:02:55 <nioc> never 01:03:03 <spacekitty420[m]> F 01:03:23 <kinghat[m]> could get a lot of πͺ for that 01:03:34 <nioc> what skills I have I gladly give 01:03:52 <nioc> *what little 01:03:54 <nioc> lol 01:04:40 <spacekitty420[m]> <3 01:05:53 <alpharabius[m]> nioc: I mean i kinda got skills 01:06:28 <alpharabius[m]> I have some in programming but it's mainly running and managing a server 01:06:59 <plowsof> rayatina <3 01:07:40 <spacekitty420[m]> oh shit i was like "new phone, who dis" but guess that was just a name change πΉ 01:09:47 <spacekitty420[m]> i mean... i dont know shit either tbh but couple years ago still got an offer to work as sysadmin for rehrar, ended up declning cause just wasnt feeling comfortable while i clearly lack knowledge on all the techy shits but yeah, even with little knowledge here and there you def could contribute here and there on some aspects 01:13:02 <alpharabius[m]> <plowsof> "rayatina <3..." <- Alpharabius is my name 01:13:19 <plowsof> who said that was you? 01:13:48 <spacekitty420[m]> prob saying that just cause tryna avoid getting shadowbanned on new acc or somethin πΉ 01:14:06 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: I was just like speaking and you say this guys name 01:14:28 <plowsof> you do your thing, just please.... reduce the 'quote replies' / majorly off topic moments / and 'the subject is now me' 01:14:43 <spacekitty420[m]> oh nvm yeah, guess 2 diff people :P 01:14:47 <alpharabius[m]> It wasn't a shadowban 01:15:01 <alpharabius[m]> Just an outright ban 01:15:30 <spacekitty420[m]> damn 01:16:46 <alpharabius[m]> Shadowban is when you're unable to do anything in a server or smth, like you can't post on a site or smth 01:16:50 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: tbf... hard to stay on topic when this room just literally ded at those times of the day.... 01:17:10 <alpharabius[m]> Has more life than the discord 01:20:30 <alpharabius[m]> +i only thought abt evading ban after monerobull's advice 01:20:30 <plowsof> discussion of chicken tendies is allowed, i retract the "majorly off topic" for now 01:21:22 <alpharabius[m]> I want a bot 01:21:48 <alpharabius[m]> That can scrape the internet, either by irc or some other method for pdfs 01:22:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Plowsof=government ;) 01:22:37 <alpharabius[m]> Does he get paid 01:22:55 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Only in cbdc 01:23:05 <alpharabius[m]> Plowsof>>>government 01:23:10 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Then atomic swap to xmr 01:23:24 <nioc> he does work for montero, what are you guys doin? 01:23:36 <alpharabius[m]> If he gets paid for moderation then lemme go and get my bag of doritos n montain dew 01:24:02 <alpharabius[m]> I'm telling you i could be a great addition 01:24:19 <alpharabius[m]> To whatever you're doing 01:24:54 <nioc> then go and ehrn you come back let us know what you have done 01:25:00 <plowsof> python is an easy place to start with web scraping e.g. beautifulsoup 01:25:27 <spacekitty420[m]> also great for machine learning applications 01:26:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Tensorflow 01:27:55 <spacekitty420[m]> like, scrapping the internet for unsecured internet boxes then host your own applications over there, creates an algo that scrap websites content and that could write fake websites (machine learning useful for that step, making it hooman-like) so could create traffic and then idfk, could do a bunch of different shits at that point 01:32:53 <alpharabius[m]> >unsecured internet boxes 01:32:56 <alpharabius[m]> Sounds illegak 01:33:02 <alpharabius[m]> illegal 01:33:26 <spacekitty420[m]> probably so don't do it, is just a plot for a movie... :hyperthonk: 01:35:53 <spacekitty420[m]> but to be fair, free speech is illegal in china but you're not in china so it's not illegal for you 01:36:20 <spacekitty420[m]> being a hacker in russia is not illegal as long as you don't hack things from russia 01:36:59 <spacekitty420[m]> so maybe scanning a taking over unsecured internet boxes is illegal in your country but there's an other country out there where it's not illegal u know 01:37:06 <spacekitty420[m]> s/a/and/ 01:38:43 <spacekitty420[m]> just sayin, dont do the drugs and stay in school, that's about it.... 01:39:45 <plowsof> i was going to suggest 'make a calculator' π 01:39:57 <nioc> abacus 01:40:38 <spacekitty420[m]> bc? 01:42:45 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (15KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/EFcsiYXTwBOSdgUIESuYCpws/image.png > 01:44:20 <alpharabius[m]> Guys 01:44:25 <alpharabius[m]> My library idea 01:44:33 <alpharabius[m]> Is there a way to develop it 01:44:43 <alpharabius[m]> Into something you guys would approve 01:45:33 <plowsof> niocs abacus (in ascii) sounds difficult 01:47:56 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: What does dat mean 01:48:52 <plowsof> if you are learning, start off with a smaller task :) 01:51:03 <alpharabius[m]> <alpharabius[m]> "Into something you guys would..." <- I think that when i get initial funding for a library i would post wikileaks and some philosophers (like alpharabius and averroes) first 01:51:31 <alpharabius[m]> It would be a community project so i'd consult the community first, like what i do now 01:52:26 <alpharabius[m]> Or they'll be a git where you can add stuff, but it would be lightly regulated (to stop people from doing stuff like adding cheese pizza links to my site) 01:53:39 <alpharabius[m]> Or a function to upload 01:55:21 <spacekitty420[m]> https://based.cooking there's websites like this that from users inputs on github gets updated, could prob setup something similar with like a gitea instance or somethin if you dont want to be with github 01:56:23 <alpharabius[m]> I got the original idea from based cooking and wanted to do something like that but with monero and stuff but realized monero.garden is tryna do that 01:58:54 <alpharabius[m]> I semi-regularly check monero ccs 01:59:09 <alpharabius[m]> I wanna be on there 01:59:32 <alpharabius[m]> On completed tasks ofc 02:06:09 <alpharabius[m]> So who wants to help me? 02:11:11 <spacekitty420[m]> am too retarded for anything, good luck tho :) 02:17:33 <alpharabius[m]> Imagine i got mentioned on mental outlaw's channel 02:18:06 <alpharabius[m]> I would right then and there do a flip 02:18:15 <alpharabius[m]> Or faint 02:19:05 <alpharabius[m]> He put me onto arch, dwm, linux and most importantly monero 02:19:17 <alpharabius[m]> He's the reason i'm here 02:23:27 <spacekitty420[m]> and then imagine the president of the united states saying u a threat to democracy and the software u been working on is also a threat to democracy and then u getting jailed from laws that they just written and making them work retroactively o.o 02:25:42 <alpharabius[m]> By the time they can even try me for anything real i'll be on a one way to moldova with all my xmr 02:26:24 <alpharabius[m]> I'm under 18 so even if i was a threat the most they could do is give me a slap on the wrist 02:27:28 <alpharabius[m]> (I'm legally obliged to say i will not do anything illegal) 02:27:54 <spacekitty420[m]> or you'll get swatted by the fbi and just "disappeared" instead of slap on the wrist :tinfoil: 02:28:36 <spacekitty420[m]> jkjk btw, well, who knows what that gov over there even doing anyways... 02:29:17 <alpharabius[m]> Imagine spending most of your life in jail for nonviolent crimes 02:29:39 <spacekitty420[m]> alpharabius[m]: fucking lmao, that reminds me apparently when you land in the usa from plane you literally have to say that you're not a terrorist, like they literally asking "u a terrorist" and literally have to say "nop" like wtf LOL 02:30:08 <alpharabius[m]> They already think i am 02:30:33 <spacekitty420[m]> yeah, imagine spending most of your life in jail cause you said "yes" just to mess with the guy asking the question "u a terrorist?" 02:30:36 <spacekitty420[m]> damn.... 02:30:44 <spacekitty420[m]> well, maybe is cause u is :hyperthonk: 02:32:01 <spacekitty420[m]> ur search history prob be like "how to build a nuclear bomb with only milk and nutella" 02:32:11 <alpharabius[m]> (I am legally obliged to deny any claims of me being an extremist or being aligned with any terror groups) 02:32:37 <alpharabius[m]> I'm only extremely american 02:32:45 <spacekitty420[m]> πΉ 02:52:28 <alpharabius[m]> I want to know ofrn's opinion bcuz he's the most critical 02:52:48 <alpharabius[m]> But i want him to dm me because i'm going 2 sleep 03:05:46 <blokzincir[m]> Friends, if someone else knows only my monero view key, can they steal my monero assets or not? 03:06:26 <cryptogrampy[m]> they can't steal your funds 03:08:20 <blokzincir[m]> Can the view key be transferred from Ledger device to monero gui or not? 03:31:47 <selsta> blokzincir[m]: yes, export the view key 03:31:55 <selsta> otherwise the GUI doesn't work properly 04:48:34 <plowsof> monero shopping has updated their proposal <3 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/360 05:07:09 <DanIsnotthemanBr> <plowsof> "monero shopping has updated..." <- your referenced in it too 05:19:46 <plowsof> they want to leave it open for the next 6 months so i think we can all be referenced eventually Dan! :D 05:29:05 <DanIsnotthemanBr> this will be my lifes work to be mentioned :/ 05:43:48 <Siren[m]> <plowsof> "monero shopping has updated..." <- I wonder how old are they? This is starting to look like enthusiastic children than scammers looking for a quick cash grab 05:52:40 <DanIsnotthemanBr> kyc them ;) 05:57:20 <Martin77[m]> if the global internet went down will monero split into multiple network that run on local smaller ones? 06:01:39 <Siren[m]> We need infra first 06:04:18 <Martin77[m]> Siren[m]: like i can setup a local internet with my neighborhood if global internet went down. idk Apocalyptic event? ww3? 06:04:18 <Martin77[m]> it might happened 06:04:18 <Martin77[m]> we can used phone cable , fiber optics or packet radio? 06:04:27 <Martin77[m]> * like i can setup a local internet with my neighborhood if global internet went down. idk Apocalyptic event? ww3? 06:04:27 <Martin77[m]> it might happened 06:04:27 <Martin77[m]> we can used phone cable , fiber optics or packet radio 06:05:25 <Siren[m]> > <@martin77:matrix.rabbit-company.com> like i can setup a local internet with my neighborhood if global internet went down. idk Apocalyptic event? ww3? 06:05:25 <Siren[m]> > it might happened 06:05:25 <Siren[m]> > we can used phone cable , fiber optics or packet radio 06:05:25 <Siren[m]> It would be cool to have a global disaster plan like this 06:05:28 <Martin77[m]> or going back to gold? 06:05:29 <Martin77[m]> like fiat is gonna be worthless at that point 06:08:25 <Siren[m]> Wtf is this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/yyohle/comment/iwyc407/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 06:09:10 <Martin77[m]> Siren[m]: i read that bitcoin will still working , since there are blockstream satellites 06:09:11 <Martin77[m]> you can sync into bitcoin blockchain anywere in the world without internet access 06:13:10 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (267KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/NBAjtfByCREaUnAXOTHCaQvU/IMG_20221123_081249.jpg > 06:13:46 <Siren[m]> <Siren[m]> "Wtf is this? https://www.reddit..." <- I'm not a conspiracy theorist but go get yer boosters!!! 06:16:34 <plowsof> ask him if Ukraine exists 06:16:42 <Siren[m]> Holy fuck he doesn't recognize it? 06:17:07 <plowsof> you don't know the history! 06:18:15 <Siren[m]> He predicted I would be dead after a year because I was vaccinated. Guess who's alive lol. 06:19:08 <Siren[m]> Also he was mumbling some bullshit lore about jewish families before? I don't remember what it exactly was, but it was ridiculous too. 06:19:38 <Siren[m]> He doesn't believe in modern medicine too 06:20:49 <Siren[m]> What do you guys think about his dev tax explanation post? 06:20:58 <Siren[m]> Also a bunch of random rumbling 06:21:07 <spacekitty420[m]> too long didnt read 06:21:41 <Siren[m]> Only one fucking paragraph is relevant, he's insulting the reader or talking about random shit in the rest 06:22:20 <plowsof> on a positive note: monero shopping plans on integrating MoneroPay into their project π 06:23:18 <Siren[m]> plowsof: If they can get selenium + automation to work, it'd be really cool but legality is an issue. 06:23:24 <spacekitty420[m]> my mom used to say something when like having to provide paperwork about things is to basically flood them with too many of it then it usually will go through and won't bother asking for more useless paperwork cause already too much info, that reddit thread about the dev fee reminded me of that, like, too much shits for a simple explanation and basically am still not sure what was even the explanation about 06:23:26 <Siren[m]> I hope they can solve that 06:24:40 <Siren[m]> spacekitty420[m]: I found it manipulative actually 06:25:05 <spacekitty420[m]> it was so yeah, i didnt even bother reading it, fuck that 06:26:32 <Siren[m]> It was basically him saying you guys are all naive and look at how smart I am 06:26:56 <spacekitty420[m]> as usual πΉ 06:27:48 <Siren[m]> In his CCS description and comments, he also kept belittling endor 06:28:01 <spacekitty420[m]> like fuck, even on the ccs thread literally being all like endor00 is just some piece of shit that don't know anything, that's cringe.... 06:28:02 <spacekitty420[m]> JINX! LOL 06:28:16 <plowsof> yes the demeaning attitude to endor was ridiculous 06:30:54 <spacekitty420[m]> like idk, few months ago dm'ed me, talked about some :tinfoil: theories regarding a potential monero takeover in the future, like, am :tinfoil: u know but then he started being all like full on actual :tinfoil: wall of text on unrelated shits to cryptoworld which was just wayyy too overwhelming and ended up just ghosting him.... 06:31:18 <spacekitty420[m]> like, is just way too :tinfoil: even for me u know... 06:31:43 <plowsof> this is all hearsay your honour! 06:31:59 <Siren[m]> Also bruh another conspiracy theory: "Meeting the deadline of SolOptXMR was very important, because I had predicted in March that the deadline of 31 Oct. 2022 would mark blackouts in the northern hemisphere." 06:32:18 <Siren[m]> What's the date today 06:32:38 <plowsof> Nostradamus 06:32:46 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: He posted this few days ago himself 06:32:54 <Siren[m]> Hahaha 06:37:26 <blokzincir[m]> <selsta> "blokzincir: yes, export the view..." <- Sir, I don't think the view key of monero from ledger device to monero gui should be transferred. Because the goal is confidentiality and privacy. 06:42:02 <spacekitty420[m]> if you need to use the gui, still want to import view key in monero gui but wouldnt because your threat model 06:42:02 <spacekitty420[m]> you probably could still boot a linux distro from live-usb and import view key to the gui without persistent storage so that way you can reboot your computer into windows or whatever and your view key won't be there 06:46:00 <spacekitty420[m]> the blockchain data could be on persistent storage while wallet file that holds the keys would be only in the ram (and lost after reboot) 07:09:04 <NorrinRadd> according to this, Binance has zero Monero.... https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/binance/ 07:09:35 <spacekitty420[m]> *less than $100k, made a reddit post on /r/xmrtrader about it yesterday 07:10:49 <monerobull[m]> hinto @hinto.janaiyo:matrix.org: oh wtf 07:11:05 <monerobull[m]> Guh-picks really π 07:11:12 <NorrinRadd> spacekitty420[m] all things being equal, why would they hold so little monero? is it trade volume? 07:11:28 <NorrinRadd> it's not legality... 07:11:31 <monerobull[m]> They make like 50k a day on xmr fees 07:12:14 <NorrinRadd> they have 1000 & 1 tokens i've never heard of listed & no xmr 07:12:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because they dont have 07:13:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wash and paper trading vs 07:13:07 <spacekitty420[m]> NorrinRadd: the TLDR is basically that, they officially stated they have less than $100k in xmr but cz personal wallet stole all those monero and will eventually do a Mt. Gox :3 07:14:50 <NorrinRadd> i'm really curious 07:15:27 <monerobull[m]> https://twitter.com/monerobull/status/1595311282525290497?t=WgmnHd_lOITq3pTY7Bxe8g&s=19 07:15:27 <NorrinRadd> all that other shit can be as easilyl paper traded, so i'm not seeing a difference 07:15:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero isnt owned by traders and ngu peopke 07:16:15 <NorrinRadd> monerobull[m] that's dope 07:16:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> A lot should be in wallets, not sitting on exchange 07:17:31 <NorrinRadd> ok that's market cap, but xmr is actually #30 worldwide right? 07:17:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> I dont know any normies who self custody. Shiba, doge, btc, eth. Most of these crowds think binance is a wallet 07:17:52 <NorrinRadd> but that propotion isn't represented at all on what they're holding 07:17:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> NorrinRadd: 23, no? 07:18:02 <DanIsnotthemanBr> shitcoins...... 07:18:09 <NorrinRadd> 27 i think 07:18:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> 24 on cmc 07:18:48 <NorrinRadd> ahh that bot on monero-pools always says 27 or 28 07:19:21 <spacekitty420[m]> 24 and got very close to overthrow etc past couple days but etc jumped back a lil bit... sadPeepo 07:19:28 <NorrinRadd> idk what exchange it's using 07:19:54 <spacekitty420[m]> meanwhile ltc going to the moon 07:20:18 <NorrinRadd> ofrnxmr[m] Β―\_(γ)_/Β― 07:20:48 <NorrinRadd> at least now there's a bit of proof 07:21:49 <spacekitty420[m]> if there's a reddit mod around, there's that scam that bot upvoted their shady post with a scam link (fake bitrefill link) and insta bot downvoted the replies saying it's a scam 07:22:31 <blokzincir[m]> The view key is not for spending monero assets. Is it correct? Sir. 07:22:41 <spacekitty420[m]> correct 07:22:54 <spacekitty420[m]> it's just to see the funds but can't spend them 07:23:43 <spacekitty420[m]> like when you going on a bitcoin explorer, you seeing all those public keys (addresses) but cant spend them 07:26:03 <NorrinRadd> kucoin is more stable than binance intl. not as much exchange tokens 07:29:42 <NorrinRadd> Kucoin and Bitfinex have < 100k also.... 07:29:43 <NorrinRadd> wtf 07:29:52 <NorrinRadd> this is the price suppression 07:30:25 <NorrinRadd> i fn hate exchange, i hope they all go bankrupt 07:31:28 <spacekitty420[m]> binance probably wont, they in a position of way too much power, have that massive monopoly, how would the tether mafia + binance go down? no idea, prob won't ever, they own the whole cryptomarket at this point 07:33:21 <spacekitty420[m]> it's not a supply & demand market anymore, it's a what those entities saying the price is, they don't even need to move funds and whatnot, just saying fake numbers, wash trading off-chain numbers that are not related to the blockchain at all and that's about it 07:34:50 <spacekitty420[m]> best case scenario imo would be with serai, if it can have bigger volume (which would be true volume) than the fake volumes reported by cex, there might be a chance to overthrow those mofos, having big doubts on the potential of that tho, as most people don't self custody and just leaving funds in cex..... 07:35:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Best case scenario is they delist because they run out 07:35:20 <spacekitty420[m]> right 07:35:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Claim delisting for privacy 07:35:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> But really, its because if real world usage 07:35:36 <spacekitty420[m]> but they most likely won't delist either 07:35:38 <NorrinRadd> ofrnxmr[m] or even ordered to by regulation 07:35:59 <NorrinRadd> i hate to root for regulation but i have that corrupt exchanges are involved in crypto 07:36:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Which means... the prices they report for a tiny fraction of the circuit supply need to be ignored 07:36:09 <NorrinRadd> s/have/hate 07:36:19 <spacekitty420[m]> even then, its EU regulation, there would probably be a country out there that is not US, that is not EU to which binance would still be able to have it listed and keep their shits going with that... 07:36:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> The real value of xmr is its purchasing power in the real world. Not if binance needs to accumulate to was trades the price down 07:38:48 <spacekitty420[m]> isnt digifinex china? was like couple years ago tried them out, funds locked for 5 whole days, asked wolf0 advice to which he went on their telegram channel and they literally lied to him saying withdrawals were fine while i was literally saying withdrawals closed when checking on my page..... 07:39:22 <spacekitty420[m]> i just ended up transferring back to btc and got them out of that shady exchange asap 07:39:44 <spacekitty420[m]> but the reason i tried them out is cause they were on top of the list of those markets on coinmarketcap.... 07:40:05 <spacekitty420[m]> so like, even if EU regulation, digifenex and all those mofos would still be able to have it listed, reporting fake volumes and fake price 07:40:39 <spacekitty420[m]> s/i/it/ 07:42:43 <spacekitty420[m]> actually tried that exchange twice and both times had that issues, scared the shit outta me ngl.... 07:44:38 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (84KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/WQljnwAwTYzwWLmpZpfJiYtd/Imagepipe_598.jpg > 07:44:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not price discussion 07:44:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> But kucoin, low volume wicks show no walls 07:45:05 <spacekitty420[m]> anyways, sowry wall of text, basically what i mean is that i just have doubts the whole EU regulation will go anywhere, there won't be any meaningful delisting, they jsut have too much power in the space and won't let that go for anything 07:45:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> No liquidity* 07:48:48 <NorrinRadd> it's all about that circular economy 07:50:30 <spacekitty420[m]> true, still is a pain to get that circular economy adoption with the constant fud going around for years tho 07:51:20 <spacekitty420[m]> fuck i really wish next week announcement from cake is cakepay in EU, would be so fucking nice am actually so hyped LOL 07:52:07 <NorrinRadd> yeah, luckily there's actually PoW so even though i don't think crypto winter is over yet, lots of projects will fail (because their corp failed) but xmr will not be one of them. 07:52:20 <NorrinRadd> after this bear market work can be done 07:52:27 <spacekitty420[m]> backed by electricity o.o 07:52:46 <NorrinRadd> right. backed by real life atoms 07:52:46 <spacekitty420[m]> rather than backed by nothing but investor speculation (pos) 07:54:30 <NorrinRadd> if there's some national success stories, it will help 07:56:23 <spacekitty420[m]> current nation story narrative is that monero already failed at the privacy thing: 07:56:25 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (26KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/CaMSlbgvyHFBnJtpEdKYDqOw/image.png > 07:56:34 <spacekitty420[m]> (coinmarketcap news tab) 07:56:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> π₯³ 07:56:42 <spacekitty420[m]> 6/7 voted it as a fact 07:56:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Id vote it as a fact too 07:57:04 <spacekitty420[m]> "privacy-focused projects like Monero failed to combat rising privacy issues in the blockchain industry"? 07:57:05 <spacekitty420[m]> why? 07:57:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> If gov says im using privacy coin, ill point to fud article and say "I thought itvwas cucked" 07:57:39 <spacekitty420[m]> LOL 07:58:13 <spacekitty420[m]> oh shit, reminds me that twatt from dash when they were getting delisted basically saying they werent even a privacy coin πΉ 07:58:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> "I only use monero because its traceable " 07:58:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Its not fucking traceable and you know it" - gov 07:59:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> "... can you repeat that a Lil louder?" - me 08:00:42 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (376KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/HaVmAjUGiGQmGzCJVRuVptHn/image.png > 08:01:36 <spacekitty420[m]> wdym this aint #monero-memes but a wendys?.... 08:05:37 <spacekitty420[m]> YOOOOO WTF???? 08:05:44 <spacekitty420[m]> just went to #monero-memes 08:05:52 <spacekitty420[m]> august 17 post: 08:05:54 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (32KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/AlLhCObSlQqpWhmKtVJhOSnb/image.png > 08:06:01 <spacekitty420[m]> what in the actual fuck???? 08:07:03 <spacekitty420[m]> that's some actual nostradamus shits right there 08:07:50 <monerobull[m]> Kek 08:07:51 <monerobull[m]> Anyways 08:07:52 * monerobull[m] uploaded an image: (110KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/IaoPnntqcFOHMgOTvrqrEgvs/Screenshot_20221123-090639.png > 08:08:01 <monerobull[m]> Monerokon uses monerochan art now 08:08:36 <spacekitty420[m]> no ETA on the monerochan plush btw? 08:09:17 <monerobull[m]> https://twitter.com/monerobull/status/1595311282525290497?t=WgmnHd_lOITq3pTY7Bxe8g&s=19 08:09:23 <DanIsnotthemanBr> big boobs 08:09:27 <monerobull[m]> Just got new revised sample images 08:09:36 <monerobull[m]> The sample will be sent to me now 08:09:38 <spacekitty420[m]> but is not an ETA tho πΏ 08:09:49 <monerobull[m]> I think 2-3 weeks till the sample gets here 08:10:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull[m]: Wen resin 08:10:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Those expensive.... action figures 08:10:43 <monerobull[m]> monerobull[m]: If i approve it, I'd assume the dolls should go on sale about 1.5-2 months after that 08:10:57 <monerobull[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: That was always the plan 08:11:26 <monerobull[m]> Fumos were just more attainable at the moment 08:11:26 <monerobull[m]> And are also very nice 08:12:11 <monerobull[m]> Let's hope everything goes according to plan with the dolls before starting anything new 08:14:24 <spacekitty420[m]> good luck o.o 08:21:59 <sech1> "legal privacy" what is it? 08:22:20 <sech1> it's when the govt bends you over just a little bit and not on weekends? 08:23:19 <Siren[m]> My favorite is when they say "give 40% of your salary to stay out of jail" π 08:27:01 <spacekitty420[m]> institutionalized mafia 09:20:21 <blokzincir[m]> Sir for monero, if 24 words are converted to 25 words (electrum/monero) in ledger device, can 25 words in ledger device be transferred to monero gui or not? 09:20:54 <monerobull[m]> You can convert ledger seeds to monero seeds yes 09:23:56 <blokzincir[m]> monerobull[m]: Sir, can 25 words be transferred from ledger device to monero gui by not writing with keyboard to monero gui? 09:24:18 <monerobull[m]> blokzincir[m]: Sir, can 25 words be transferred from ledger device to monero gui by not writing with keyboard to monero gui? 09:25:36 <blokzincir[m]> monerobull[m]: Do not kidding 09:30:52 <sech1> blokzincir[m] Yes. 25 words in ledger device can be transferred to monero gui. 09:32:04 <blokzincir[m]> sech1: Is it real? There's no reason to use hardware wallet. 09:35:42 <blokzincir[m]> sech1: I don't mean by not writing with keyboard the 25 words. I mean by to transferred the 25 words from ledger device to monero gui. 09:41:19 <blokzincir[m]> Do you understand me? Sir. 09:49:52 <blokzincir[m]> <sech1> "blokzincir Yes. 25 words in..." <- Sir. Is it real. I can't believe this case. I hope you don't kidding me. Is it real or not? 09:52:07 <Siren[m]> It is real 09:54:50 <sech1> You have to type 25 words, sir 10:06:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sir. We are all women 10:07:29 <sech1> The days he finally restores his wallet in Monero GUI and stops asking about 25 words in Ledger, will be a day to celebrate 10:07:49 <blokzincir[m]> <Siren[m]> "It is real" <- Is there the youtube video about it? 10:09:29 <blokzincir[m]> <sech1> "You have to type 25 words, sir" <- By not writing with keyboard. By transferred from ledger device to monero gui. 10:10:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Use full sentences 10:10:40 <blokzincir[m]> I am from mongolia. 10:10:48 <blokzincir[m]> I use translation. 10:11:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> You want to use your ledger wallet in gui without plugging in the ledger? 10:11:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> And you want to know if you can do this without typing the 25 words? 10:12:32 <blokzincir[m]> sir, of course the ledger device is plugging. not without plugging in. 10:13:46 <DanIsnotthemanBr> this better not be the 24 words and 25 words thing 10:14:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> It is 10:14:19 <DanIsnotthemanBr> jesus christ 10:14:31 <DanIsnotthemanBr> π« 10:15:39 <blokzincir[m]> If the ledger device is plugged into the monero gui, without writing with keyboard, for monero, can the 25 words in the ledger device be transferred to the monero gui or not? 10:17:35 <blokzincir[m]> Please answer me. Sir. Please. I use translation. I am from π²π³. 10:17:43 <blokzincir[m]> If the ledger device is plugged into the monero gui, without writing with keyboard, for monero, can the 25 words in the ledger device be transferred to the monero gui or not? 10:18:50 <blokzincir[m]> Hey sir. Please answer me. 10:18:50 <blokzincir[m]> If the ledger device is plugged into the monero gui, without writing with keyboard, for monero, can the 25 words in the ledger device be transferred to the monero gui or not? 10:18:51 <blokzincir[m]> Answer me sir. Answer me sir. Please. 10:18:58 <blokzincir[m]> If the ledger device is plugged into the monero gui, without writing with keyboard, for monero, can the 25 words in the ledger device be transferred to the monero gui or not? 10:19:07 <alpharabius[m]> πππnot this guy again 10:19:21 <blokzincir[m]> Please sir. 10:19:23 <blokzincir[m]> If the ledger device is plugged into the monero gui, without writing with keyboard, for monero, can the 25 words in the ledger device be transferred to the monero gui or not? 10:20:01 <blokzincir[m]> Please answer me. Answer me.πͺ 10:20:02 <blokzincir[m]> If the ledger device is plugged into the monero gui, without writing with keyboard, for monero, can the 25 words in the ledger device be transferred to the monero gui or not? 10:20:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> You're going to get blocked reaaaaaal fast if you dont cut that out 10:21:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> I mean, banned 10:22:27 <alpharabius[m]> Have you guys not banned this dude 10:23:31 <blokzincir[m]> Please clear answer me. 10:23:47 <blokzincir[m]> The last i ask again it 10:23:56 <blokzincir[m]> If the ledger device is plugged into the monero gui, without writing with keyboard, for monero, can the 25 words in the ledger device be transferred to the monero gui or not? 10:24:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> DONT ASK AGAIN 10:24:33 <blokzincir[m]> Clear answer sir please 10:24:51 <blokzincir[m]> I love all human this group 10:25:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> blokzincir[m]: I fucking hope so 10:25:41 <spacekitty420[m]> he lying, said same thing last time, but then started spamming again even after saying that was last message ever 10:25:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> 8AFCaKMr2QT6XW5TwcczAcTr8ELFkyhXuGAGdjx8rFfrU2mdKEwVu2511rX1npsYNeND2muvWpMJe7AGYzEaQzDwA5oaNyV 10:25:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Send 1xmr to this address per support request. Thanks 10:26:16 <blokzincir[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Hahabahhahah π 10:26:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Whats so funny? 10:27:14 <blokzincir[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: You are kidding me. 10:27:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Once I see a deposit, I will have someone answer contact you in DM to help you solve your request 10:27:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> blokzincir[m]: I am serious 10:27:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> 100% serious 10:27:52 <blokzincir[m]> U cannot serious. π 10:28:02 <alpharabius[m]> I mean those are the rolez 10:28:07 <alpharabius[m]> *rulez 10:28:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> your english miraculously got good 10:28:49 <alpharabius[m]> But i'm a native speaker 10:28:49 <DanIsnotthemanBr> not you 10:28:55 <alpharabius[m]> Oh 10:29:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> I only reply to spam when im paid to 10:29:06 <alpharabius[m]> Bcuz he use translator 10:29:33 <alpharabius[m]> πΈπΈπΈ 10:29:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> 1xmr is the fee im setting for blokzincir: . Though I imagine im being too generous 10:29:58 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:30:20 <alpharabius[m]> blokzincir[m]: I offer low preces 10:30:24 <alpharabius[m]> 0.5 xmr 10:30:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> My suggestion is to send 1xmr to that address or get banned for spam 10:30:45 <blokzincir[m]> Please clear answer sir 10:30:46 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:30:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Also, stop spamming or you'll get banned for spam anyway. I dont take bribes 10:31:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> alpharabius[m]: Ill counter your offer. My new offer is 1.5xmr 10:31:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> You can go with alpha if you want. 10:31:24 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:31:24 <alpharabius[m]> 3 xmr 10:31:30 <blokzincir[m]> 5 btc 10:31:36 <alpharabius[m]> Deal 10:31:37 <blokzincir[m]> π 10:31:39 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:31:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof: sgp: Banhammer: 10:31:49 <alpharabius[m]> But convert to xmr 10:31:59 <spacekitty420[m]> 4.20 xmr to: 10:31:59 <spacekitty420[m]> 42oK1ttyF1nMK5T8u8RXmabV3wu48jrKh17k8XHANnwzLjoY5EsriXJNPLWDbQTNGUbUJETcJYxXT7uVqNtJs12sTqdwzCd 10:31:59 <spacekitty420[m]> or gtfo 10:32:10 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:32:11 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:32:12 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:32:13 <blokzincir[m]> My suggestion is that 25 words on the ledger device for monero should not be transferred from the ledger device to the monero gui. 10:32:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ill split that with you spacekitty420 @spacekitty420:catgirl.cloud: 10:32:36 <spacekitty420[m]> deal 10:32:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> blokzincir: shoot me a dm 10:32:56 <blokzincir[m]> I fuck all human this group. And killing all with samurai sword 10:32:56 <alpharabius[m]> Your mother blokzincir, that's what i suggest 10:32:57 <blokzincir[m]> π‘ 10:33:04 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: What abt me, i did the debating 10:33:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> I have an offer for you 10:33:21 <blokzincir[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Where are u from 10:33:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mongolia 10:33:39 <blokzincir[m]> π 10:33:43 <alpharabius[m]> We are mongolian too 10:33:46 <spacekitty420[m]> alpharabius: ask ofrnxmr to split his share, i aint splitting mine further o.o 10:33:46 <alpharabius[m]> Yo 10:33:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> But im a woman 10:33:55 <blokzincir[m]> I am from north korea 10:34:10 <alpharabius[m]> spacekitty420: after everything i have done for you 10:34:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> spacekitty420[m]: Same bro. Who? Never heard of alpha 10:34:18 <blokzincir[m]> Kim jong un use monero 10:34:18 <alpharabius[m]> I fed you 10:34:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> ./ignore alpha 10:35:21 <spacekitty420[m]> anyways, am out finishing movie was watching, yall have fun with the spam 10:35:21 <blokzincir[m]> Where are u from. I ask seriously 10:35:21 <alpharabius[m]> spacekitty420 I gave you a house, i clothed you and this is how you treat me? 10:35:33 <alpharabius[m]> Wow 10:35:43 <spacekitty420[m]> alpharabius: the fuck u even on about? didnt i told you to don't do the drugs?..... jfc.... 10:35:59 <alpharabius[m]> I'm not on drugs 10:36:06 <alpharabius[m]> I took flinstones gummies 10:36:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> #backontopic 10:36:29 <blokzincir[m]> I kill all withsamurai sword 10:36:32 <alpharabius[m]> Yeah 10:36:44 <Inge> That was quite spammy. 10:36:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Myself and spacekitty are done talking shit, so everyone else has to stop too. Kthx 10:36:53 <alpharabius[m]> πππhow am i supposed to get kn topic 10:37:15 <alpharabius[m]> Bros talkin abt samurai murders n stufd 10:37:25 <blokzincir[m]> I will fuck your ass hole. 10:37:31 <alpharabius[m]> s/kn/on/ 10:37:39 <blokzincir[m]> I will fuck your baby daughter ass hole 10:38:01 <alpharabius[m]> I'm 14??? 10:38:01 <CNMJ[m]> This person is obviously a very lonely loser. I don't know why you are interacting with them. 10:38:01 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Banhammer: BanhammerMonero 10:38:01 <CNMJ[m]> It is giving them what they want. Laugh at them and move on. 10:38:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> blokzincir: wants to get doxxed BT the police π« π« π« π« 10:39:01 <blokzincir[m]> I kidding 10:39:11 <blokzincir[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I kidding sir 10:39:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> The "police" 10:39:31 <blokzincir[m]> I kidding sir 10:39:38 <sech1> IRC police 10:40:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Banned himself 10:40:32 <alpharabius[m]> Anyways 10:40:40 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr: did you see my message 10:40:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> About splitting the pie? 10:40:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Which 10:44:33 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr: the one abt having you ask me abt my library idea 10:45:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> I didnt see it 10:45:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Link or DM 10:46:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> I saw you talk about the decentralized encyclopedia thing the other day.. is this what you mean? 10:47:08 <alpharabius[m]> Nah 10:47:09 <alpharabius[m]> Developed from that idea 10:47:09 <alpharabius[m]> But not rlly 11:31:57 <Siren[m]> <blokzincir[m]> "Please answer me. Sir. Please. I..." <- his name is turkish though 11:40:31 <alpharabius[m]> Siren: are you turkiye 11:42:41 <Siren[m]> we all are 11:44:20 <dEBRUYNE> spacekitty420[m]: Can you link to your thread please? 11:51:21 <alpharabius[m]> I want to be at monerokon 11:51:40 <alpharabius[m]> Not physically, but someone there talking abt me 11:51:51 <alpharabius[m]> Maybe a little bit physically 11:52:34 <Siren[m]> alpharabius[m]: Who? 11:53:34 <alpharabius[m]> Idk like my projects i'm working on getting mentioned or smth 11:53:46 <alpharabius[m]> Siren: it's rayatina btw 11:54:02 <alpharabius[m]> I jusy like the name alpharabius 12:49:44 <monerobull[m]> <alpharabius[m]> "Idk like my projects i'm working..." <- Are they related to monerokon topics? 12:50:33 <Siren[m]> Inb4 he submits "racism in the Monero community" presentation 12:52:27 <alpharabius[m]> That was a joke lok 12:52:30 <alpharabius[m]> Lol 12:53:24 <alpharabius[m]> My project is on the conservation and archiving of monero and it's documents 12:53:35 <Stnby[m]> Regarding the monero.shopping CCS, MoneroBro I know you're reading it, I think it would be nicer if you and your team could join and explain the idea a bit more. 12:53:35 <Stnby[m]> I am more than sure it does not take a year and such a large budget to implement something like this. And I am more than sure that you should not even attempt to create some globalised solution either e.x. You do not speak European languages and could never successfully integrate foreign shops. What about taxation and VAT, also good luck dealing with that. 12:53:36 <Stnby[m]> Also there is no point for you to remain anonymous as you would be forced to incorporate regardless. 12:55:26 <monerobull[m]> I liked how they propose me as a creator for their marketing video 12:56:16 <MajesticBank> for meetings about CCS, maybe it's good to notify in CCS proposal when the meeting happens 12:56:31 <MajesticBank> because we often discuss without the developers 12:56:40 <Stnby[m]> I don't think they need marketing. It will be known as 100 000 Eur Ebay project 12:56:45 <Stnby[m]> Also for profit 12:57:15 <Stnby[m]> I don't think Cake people or IVPN people asked us for donations for their For-profit businesses. 12:57:34 <Stnby[m]> * for donations (CCS) for their 12:58:05 <monerobull[m]> I know, i just liked that they still put me there after telling them their proposal is insanity 12:58:06 <Stnby[m]> MajesticBank: We would if we could, he has some anon account in here 13:00:41 <Stnby[m]> Also it would be far more logical to have an addon that interrupts the checkout payment process. I kind of have an idea that otherwise it would be difficult to prove the payment at EU customs. 13:02:42 <Stnby[m]> We with Siren were doing research in how we could automate purchase/reselling of Gift cards in Lithuania, doable but it certainly requires a lot of dedication + local people. 13:04:09 <sech1> why Lithuania specifically? And not the whole EU/Euro zone? 13:04:21 <Siren[m]> Selling gift cards for XMR is fairly easy however we also wanted to accept valid gift cards and pay users in XMR. 13:05:11 <Siren[m]> sech1: Because in Lithuania there are companies that sell gift cards online and we found a way to automate purchases. 13:05:16 <Stnby[m]> sech1: Because EU is not US 13:05:31 <Stnby[m]> Every country in EU has completely different stores 13:05:47 <Stnby[m]> Just happens that we live in Lithuania, thats why 13:06:00 <sech1> ah, nice 13:06:08 <Siren[m]> We would have issues acquiring the gift cards in other countries unless we find a way to automate those top 13:06:13 <sech1> I have a few friends from Lithuania, need to tell them 13:06:13 <Siren[m]> s/top/too/ 13:06:34 <Siren[m]> Yay there are more monero users that live here 13:08:42 <Stnby[m]> sech1: Whats a chance that we still havent met them 13:08:54 <Stnby[m]> We met one person through this group :D 13:09:13 <sech1> no, they don't know about XMR yet 13:09:23 <sech1> good excuse to talk about it :D 13:10:11 <Stnby[m]> Good thing we have some monopoly with gift card vendor, and they sell digital gift cards as well :D 13:10:40 <Siren[m]> <Siren[m]> "Selling gift cards for XMR is..." <- About this mechanism, the largest supermarket chain in Lithuania (Maxima) has an API to check gift card balances.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/f9e63fe5d74778e37ac3a75f59ec167ecf6535a2>) 13:11:26 <Siren[m]> * About this mechanism, the largest supermarket chain in Lithuania (Maxima) has an API to check gift card balances.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/c9e36ac26b7514e3110e535a5966b770119afd2e>) 13:11:34 <Stnby[m]> Gift card economy, but thats a 2nd stage at best of the project 13:11:36 <Siren[m]> * About this mechanism, the largest supermarket chain in Lithuania (Maxima) has an API to check gift card balances.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/c9e36ac26b7514e3110e535a5966b770119afd2e>) 13:11:51 <Siren[m]> * About this mechanism, the largest supermarket chain in Lithuania (Maxima) has an API to check gift card balances.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/b936aee6c7020b5861c2878940be890a27b07dd9>) 13:12:28 <sech1> Anyway, when you make it working, I'll probably send a few gift cards to them :) 13:12:31 <Siren[m]> Metronero! 13:13:41 <Stnby[m]> The only issue is to hire a good lawyer lol 13:13:55 <Siren[m]> Why? You don't have to be a company to operate this :) 13:14:08 <Siren[m]> As long as you don't brag about it openly 13:14:10 <Siren[m]> All fine 13:14:21 <Siren[m]> It's legal to resell maxima giftcards 13:14:25 <Stnby[m]> As when you start buying giftcards and selling them for XMR this kind of opens a massive money laundering opportunity 13:14:41 <Siren[m]> Eh it's just giftcards 13:14:46 <Siren[m]> Who cares ;)) 14:04:48 <alpharabius[m]> <Stnby[m]> "As when you start buying..." <- Good 14:05:03 <alpharabius[m]> Joking joking i am joking 14:09:17 <sgp[m]> > <@siren:kernal.eu> About this mechanism, the largest supermarket chain in Lithuania (Maxima) has an API to check gift card balances.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/95aa4bba16106dd3ad1f5e6337bf51c0502701be>) 14:15:07 <Siren[m]> We can't stop them from spending, but if the balance was spent, the user can report it. Then the person who submitted the card won't receive the xmr. 14:15:38 <Siren[m]> As long as it's not handed out to another user, we can do periodic checks through the API and remove it if we detect it was spent as well 14:22:03 <Siren[m]> If a card was working and the user spent it and later on marked it as "couldn't use, the balance was spent before", we will have hard time verifying if the user is lying or not. 14:22:25 <Siren[m]> * spent before" with malicious intent, we 14:23:52 <Siren[m]> Also if the card was supplied by us (through automatic online purchases, and not through another user) we can easily tell that they're lying and ban them. However why would anyone bother to this in the first place? 14:30:35 <sgp[m]> <Siren[m]> "We can't stop them from spending..." <- Okay, so a card purchaser should spend the gift card immediately? 14:32:01 <Siren[m]> sgp[m]: Maybe not immediately but within a week or so. If they miss this period they cannot report it as "spent before me" anymore. 14:34:01 <Siren[m]> * bother to do this in 14:44:01 <MajesticBank> https://t.me/monerokon 15:43:16 <NorrinRadd> there's a monero dev bounty site? cc: ofrnxmr[m] 15:43:25 <NorrinRadd> cc: Rucknium[m] 15:44:14 <plowsof> https://bounties.monero.social/ 15:44:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> <MajesticBank> "for meetings about CCS, maybe it..." <- Majestic 15:45:00 <Rucknium[m]> A lot of the bounties descriptions are bugged. Should the site maintainers be prodded again? 15:45:38 <NorrinRadd> plowsof thanks! 15:47:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> I agree that some outsiders arent aware of the meeting schedule, but I believe that Plowsof manually contacts new proposers to tell then. 15:47:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> The community members choose not to attend. 15:47:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Johnfoss, mj, and anyone else who wants something for nothing 15:51:01 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (4979KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/jYnxZrzkgBWmnhiaZuyOhDJO/monero-bar.png > 15:51:07 <Siren[m]> thinking of making something for monerokon 15:51:26 <Siren[m]> labels are taken from monero.graphics ofc 15:53:58 <alpharabius[m]> Siren[m]: Monero molotov? 15:54:56 <Siren[m]> Nope since it's gonna happen in Prague, beers. 15:57:35 <alpharabius[m]> Prague Like the sauce 15:57:38 <alpharabius[m]> ?? 15:57:51 <Siren[m]> What sauce 15:58:19 <NorrinRadd> Rucknium[m] my point was really that, at this point, i don't know why there's so many rooms / channels 15:58:25 <alpharabius[m]> I was thinking of ragu 16:00:43 <Rucknium[m]> NorrinRadd: #monero-community-dev:monero.social is for dev of projects building on top of Monero. #monero-dev:monero.social is for developing the protocol itself. 16:03:47 <nioc> NorrinRadd: monero-community-dev is on the list to be bridged to irc 16:04:43 <nioc> no idea why any monero matrix room is created w/o a bridge 16:05:21 <NorrinRadd> ^ 16:05:22 <NorrinRadd> that part 16:05:55 <plowsof> the meeting has been every other week on Saturday at 16:00UTC, I do contact proposer(s) to tell them, moving forward ill post a 'welcome' message on all ideas. Because part of my CCS includes 'at least 2 meetings' i wait until the Sunday after one has been done to see if we need another (avoiding getting some criteria to claim payments while its not needed) - off to tell monero shopping. 16:07:41 <Rucknium[m]> nioc: NorrinRadd AFAIK, a room with "Monero" in the name cannot be created on Libera IRC server without Core Team approval. 16:08:28 <Rucknium[m]> So...people do what requires no permission. 16:09:18 <nioc> it's not like permission is difficult to get 16:10:55 <nioc> try to get permission and if the answer is no then create a room w/o a bridge 16:12:20 <nioc> at least getting rooms bridged gives me something to do :D 16:13:10 <nioc> I can do so while enjoying this...... 16:13:13 <nioc> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/M2WBtJLn/20221123_105019.jpg 16:16:58 <plowsof> i need to attend a bridge matrix room to irc class, i have no idea 16:19:12 <nioc> I will open that bottle with lunch while attending, I mean observing, the MRL meeting 16:54:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> How easy is it to create one? I think Moneromoo might have accidentally created it when trying to join community dev 17:02:46 <cryptogrampy[m]> please create the bridge 17:02:48 <cryptogrampy[m]> i don't have much time 17:08:25 <xmrscott[m]> <chesterfield[m]> "Is Monero-community-dev bridged..." <- No, that would fall to plowsof or cryptogrampy as the room admins. Should be bridged sooner than later if folk want though as it's at 90 people and the Matrix.org bridge will require a special exception request once it hits 100 17:12:41 <xmrscott[m]> <Rucknium[m]> "nioc: NorrinRadd AFAIK, a room..." <- This is not true TMK. I just created #monero-icecream and have ops. I have older rooms I've created w/o approval too that haven't been nuked. It's possible I'm on some list I'm not aware of, but I doubt it. Freedom to create workgroups w/o Core is the modus operandi of Core; they don't want to have micromanage things, so Core having to oversee room creation doesn't make much sense 17:12:41 <xmrscott[m]> either 17:14:46 <xmrscott[m]> Core simply has control over any #monero-* channel as far as the namespace is concerned should they need to intervene 17:16:41 <xmrscott[m]> <plowsof> "i need to attend a bridge matrix..." <- I can PM you the details later today; super simple and quick 17:17:24 <plowsof> ohh thank you xmrscott 17:18:20 <Rucknium[m]> I see. So no one needs Core's permission to create a "monero" IRC channel, but Core can put an end to a "monero" IRC room if there are scams or other similar problems. Thanks for the clarification. 17:22:08 <plowsof> i definitely remember seeing that monero was a protected name space π€ who knows what/where i was creating it 17:26:12 <needmoney90> It was a protected namespace on freenode, idk about libera 17:54:52 <nioc> when will seraphiis be put on the roadmap? 17:57:36 <nioc> maybe when it gets it's own testnet 18:26:40 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: ofrnxmr check dms 18:29:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Spacekitty isnt invited 18:32:01 <alpharabius[m]> spacekitty420 @spacekitty420:matrix.org: 18:33:50 <alpharabius[m]> Is dan the man? 18:34:07 <alpharabius[m]> alpharabius[m]: Check dms btw 19:15:50 <spacekitty420[m]> <dEBRUYNE> "spacekitty420: Can you link to..." <- not sure which one you referring to, if is the one awaiting for approval in /r/monero, dont worry about it, i just wanted to shitpost, if is the one with the fake bitrefill link, it already got removed so no worry, if it's the one regarding binance, is currently the 4th one in /r/xmrtrader when ordering by new, there's binance in title so is easy to find 19:16:44 <spacekitty420[m]> <alpharabius[m]> "Check dms btw..." <- i dont do dms, i just end up ghosting, am very unreliable 19:19:16 <Morpheus[m]> Hey guys, 19:19:16 <Morpheus[m]> We released Trodador's russian translation, thanks to Mr. Pickles help 19:19:16 <Morpheus[m]> Now russians can trade on Trocador on their own language 19:19:22 <Morpheus[m]> https://www.trocador.app/ru/ 19:21:32 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Da. Thats my only Russian word 19:25:11 <Siren[m]> sgp: You should remove NordVPN from monero.com/marketplace because they don't accept Monero anymore. 19:25:11 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (28KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/owGkojdeyUrUAQplCHoweMzm/image.png > 19:25:41 <sgp[m]> Siren[m]: ok, good suggestion. We need to update the page. Even Cake Pay isn't there, lol 19:25:47 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Shit vpn 19:25:56 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Ivpn or mullvad ;) 19:26:05 <sgp[m]> fwiw. IVPN is pinned as the recommended 19:26:49 <Morpheus[m]> If anyone wants to see Trocador translated to their own language, and want to help, feel free to contact me. We currently have Russian, English, German, Spanish and Portuguese 19:28:18 <Siren[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: true I work for the company behind NordVPN but I don't think IVPN is better 19:28:58 <DanIsnotthemanBr> More transparent 19:29:03 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Bascially 19:29:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> And doesnt pretend to stop virus and hacks 19:30:18 <Siren[m]> yeah but more expensive and uses the same shitty providers :D 19:30:49 <Siren[m]> at least we engage in shady practices to route from people's devices to use their residential IPs 19:31:17 <Siren[m]> stuff like this https://www.honeygain.com/ 19:36:08 <dEBRUYNE> spacekitty420[m]: I am not a mod on r/xmrtrader, so alas cannot help you there 19:37:14 <elkravo[m]> Does anyone know if Cake Wallet (mobile) self-updates if i install via .apk directly? 19:49:41 <elkravo[m]> Actually think ill go with Monerujo, its on Izzy's repo <3 19:49:59 <elkravo[m]> and i dont need all the currencies Cake has 20:14:56 <alpharabius[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/361?commit_id=97f0f840585da9c7fe728a8ed40ee1e3c007863e 20:14:58 <alpharabius[m]> Thoughts? 20:28:02 <monerobull[m]> The only problem i see is that very recently a similar ccs (backing up moneros repos) apparently just turned their servers off like 2 weeks after their ccs got paid out eventhough it was supposed to be online for at least a year 20:28:22 <monerobull[m]> plowsof: ? 20:33:14 <plowsof> Ive not read the proposal yet, looking now, but yes monerobull 'funds upfront' no matter how small has been ruined by Monero Archiver. 20:34:27 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: What happened 20:34:43 <monerobull[m]> <monerobull[m]> "The only problem i see is that..." <- This? 20:34:50 <plowsof> Please paste the proposal text (minus front matter) in the description. Easier to read then 20:38:29 <alpharabius[m]> It's in the overview for ease of availability 20:38:38 <alpharabius[m]> *access 20:38:49 <alpharabius[m]> s/availability/access/ 20:39:40 <alpharabius[m]> <monerobull[m]> "The only problem i see is that..." <- How much got paid out 20:41:05 <monerobull[m]> Apparently 1.3 xmr 20:42:48 <alpharabius[m]> Imagine scamming for like 160 bucks or smthππ 20:43:04 <nioc> yeah, please scam bigger 20:43:09 <alpharabius[m]> Hopefully it's not a scam and he's just fixing smth 20:43:37 <alpharabius[m]> alpharabius[m]: But, 160 bucks? Get a jobππ 20:44:07 <alpharabius[m]> Don't scam at all, it's bad he scammed if it was a scam but just a couple hundred is sad 20:44:32 <nioc> yes, I will get a job and pay for hosting of an archive, but who will do the work? 20:45:34 <monerobull[m]> alpharabius[m]: At least the zcash grifters go big and actually deliver some catchy song in return 20:46:23 <monerobull[m]> Although I think their attempt at getting a second song funded wasnt approved πͺ 20:46:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Damn.. they need some couching from cough 20:46:49 <plowsof> "im just a brain in a jar" was hilarious btw nioc (unrelated) 20:47:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Coaching* 20:47:30 <nioc> well I sit in my Lay-Z-boy chair most of the day so not that different lol 20:47:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> You have a chair? Im jelly 20:48:50 <nioc> come over and try it out 20:49:25 <nioc> I haz 2 screens 20:49:43 <nioc> there he goes again talking about himself 20:49:47 <nioc> geeeezzzz 20:50:26 <nioc> someone made a big donation to j ber man today 20:50:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wasnt me 20:50:49 <nioc> don't need to ping the busy man 20:51:30 <nioc> what the donator would say, hmmm 20:51:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> totally ignores nioc's invitation 20:52:24 <nioc> free food imcluded 20:52:30 <nioc> also included 20:53:49 <Siren[m]> can we fund kebab shops next so they adopt Monero payments? 20:53:59 <dscotese[m]> I just created this issue on github and also posted a question on the Monero StackExchange: https://github.com/coincashew/coincashew/issues/156 20:53:59 <dscotese[m]> So that you don't have to click through to read it, this is what I wrote: 20:53:59 <dscotese[m]> At https://github.com/coincashew/coincashew/blob/master/coins/overview-xmr/guide-or-how-to-run-a-full-node.md there are references to ports 18081 and 18089. There is no explanation about why ports are mentioned. The information I have found suggests that the guide should explain that 18089 and 18081 serve the same purpose in two different contexts and that which one you use depends on whether or not you want the p2p network to 20:53:59 <dscotese[m]> broadcast your node to the public (and their wallets that need an open node). I am GUESSING that 89 is for public nodes that want to be broadcast, and if someone confirms my guess (hopefully with some explanation in the guide itself), then I will make some more progress in supporting the Monero network. Thanks! 20:54:04 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: do you like it? 20:54:32 <cryptogrampy[m]> Siren[m]: yes a good reference is project coral reef 20:54:34 <Siren[m]> cryptogrampy[m]: seen, but the shops listed there were no longer accepting Monero 20:54:47 <cryptogrampy[m]> Siren[m]: yes that's a feature 20:54:48 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Siren[m]: Already one in aus 20:55:15 <nioc> kebab so much better and useful than anything on coral reef 20:55:50 <Siren[m]> cryptogrampy[m]: do they start accepting it when you tell them the secret passphrase? 20:56:16 <monerobull[m]> > <@dscotese:matrix.lrn.fm> I just created this issue on github and also posted a question on the Monero StackExchange: https://github.com/coincashew/coincashew/issues/156... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/4a15d96dc0ce46b3387556d4caefb30fd4ba8076>) 20:56:20 <cryptogrampy[m]> no you just pay them gobs of xmr > they adopt it for a brief period of time > ???? > mass adoption 20:56:48 <Siren[m]> ah 20:59:40 <alpharabius[m]> What place accepts the most xmr 21:01:42 <dscotese[m]> <monerobull[m]> "> <@dscotese:matrix.lrn.fm> I..." <- The CoinCashew post suggests having a "Full Public Node with port 18089, a restricted RPC port." But the whole writeup is confusing, as I explain in the issue I made. Anyway, I told my wallet to use 18081 and it still gets a connection error, but maybe that is because I am using 18089 and not 18081 in the config file. 21:02:04 <monerobull[m]> After exchanges,giftcard sites,vpns, hosting & domain, and misc stuff, it's me 21:02:17 <monerobull[m]> π 21:02:36 <cryptogrampy[m]> How many stickers have you deployed? 21:03:03 <monerobull[m]> +45k so far 21:03:19 <cryptogrampy[m]> wow 21:03:20 <cryptogrampy[m]> w0w 21:04:16 <monerobull[m]> Another 10k just got here so I'm stocked up for some time 21:08:56 <monerobull[m]> For anyone interested, it's https://monerosupplies.com ;) 21:09:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> dscotese: the port can be whatever you set it to 21:09:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> 18081 is default for unresticted roc which is default bind to locslhost 21:09:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> 18089 and restricted rpc are not default settings. The 'ORT number is just a number that we decided because it doesnt conflict with other default monero ports 21:10:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> The restricted port number is just a number* 21:14:50 <dscotese[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: So it still sounds like my guess that the guide CoinCashew made should be using of those two numbers and mentioning only once that the operator can change all of them to the other if they want to change whether or not other nodes on the p2p network broadcast his or her node. Is that right? If so, I will make a pull request for the guide after testing it. 21:16:00 <dscotese[m]> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> dscotese: the port can be whatever you set it to 21:16:01 <dscotese[m]> > 18081 is default for unresticted roc which is default bind to locslhost 21:16:01 <dscotese[m]> What's roc? 21:18:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rpc 21:19:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> You can use any port. Im probably connected to peers with random ports right now 21:19:33 <plowsof> If there is/isnt a guide on getmonero we can help 21:22:10 <DanIsnotthemanBr> For monerod? 21:24:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> What is a coincashew anyway 21:27:10 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Coin thats a peanut π€·πΌββοΈ 21:27:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/coincashew/coincashew/blob/master/.gitbook/assets/10iwbu47ul761.png 21:27:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> This is depreciated 21:29:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> The guide itself looks fine 22:10:27 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Sethforprivacy has one too 22:20:35 <plowsof> i always use seths guide yep 22:23:55 <alpharabius[m]> Are ppl gonna think i'm a scammer? 22:24:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Youre asking those people 22:24:36 <alpharabius[m]> ik 22:24:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Give everyone some time to read and comment on your proposal before you try to win us over β€οΈ 22:25:20 <alpharabius[m]> I'm saying bcuz plowsof informed me of some scammer dude 22:26:04 <alpharabius[m]> Had a similar idea, not as big tho 22:27:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> The guy who ran away with 1xmr is a weirdo. 22:27:33 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Actually 22:27:52 <alpharabius[m]> Like get a job ππ 22:28:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> This is how it works. 22:28:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> If people know you or know/trust your work, or believe in your idea, you get support. 22:28:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Having all of them is important. That would be, being an honest person, doing good work, and not shilling bullshit schemes 22:29:32 <alpharabius[m]> Do i shill schemes? 22:32:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> No, but do you do good work? And do we know you? 22:37:07 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I got a website and you guys know me 22:38:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> ..I dont know you π π π . No offence but there are people I have a level of trust for, or even speak highly of 22:41:24 <alpharabius[m]> I'm the guy that keeps annoying plowsof: 22:41:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> I know 22:41:38 <alpharabius[m]> That should be my motto 22:42:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Being annoying doesnt make you trusted or known for putting in work 22:42:30 <alpharabius[m]> alpharabius[m]: Either that or "it's africanized" 22:42:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Just means we knew who you were before you told us 22:45:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> But anyway. This is dragging on. 22:45:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Your ccs is brand spanking new. Give people some time to read it. If they have something to say, they'll say it. 22:46:55 <plowsof> of all people who we should fund to provide this service i would pick someone who has created/uploaded a video of how to do it 22:47:06 <plowsof> that person is called reemuru 22:48:10 <alpharabius[m]> Who 22:48:32 <plowsof> who created a video (stored on IPFS) showing DIY git hosting over tor. (which i dont think loads anymore sadly) 22:51:02 <plowsof> https://github.com/reemuru 22:51:42 <plowsof> proven abilities / shown a video of actually doing it / community member with alot of contributions the list goes on 22:52:47 <plowsof> the "monero archiver" situation has not even been discussed yet / "fixed" either 22:52:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Didnt reem also do the year in review? 22:53:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof: Ever see the movie "the mechanic" 22:53:19 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: How do you fix getting scammed 22:53:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> You call a mechanic 22:54:44 <plowsof> many in the community where not even bothered about it because alot of people have local copies of it already etc 22:55:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> And it was up for like a couple weeks. Nobody used it 22:55:28 <plowsof> so youve got to overcome that, + no proven abilities , + gain trust for upfront payments 22:55:35 <plowsof> didnt even notice it was gone 22:55:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nobody noticed it was down until we checked on it. It was never reported as down 22:55:57 <plowsof> lets fund it again 22:56:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> More services that nobody uses, lfg 22:56:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> I want to make slipper for goldfish. Black slippers, orange goldfish. I need 85xmr. Good idea? 22:57:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ill sell them to............................... the 0 people who want slippers for their goldfish 22:57:32 <plowsof> if the monero src is outlawed tomorrow and we dont have Monero Archive, what will happen 22:57:44 <plowsof> someone will do the thing for the thing 22:57:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> My computer will blow up 22:57:49 <plowsof> and we have the thing 22:57:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Boom, no more source code 22:58:23 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: Thing? 22:58:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, the thing man. 22:58:56 <alpharabius[m]> What thing 22:59:26 <plowsof> diy git hosting over tor 23:00:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Alpha, how are you trying to offer these services if you dont know about them? 23:01:22 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: You're talking about "the thing" 23:01:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, the thing 23:01:40 <alpharabius[m]> Someone will do the thing for the thing? 23:01:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof: This thing 23:04:20 <alpharabius[m]> Why not just say that instead of a crazy goose chase for the thing 23:04:53 <plowsof> thinking hurts 23:05:21 <chesterfield[m]> <plowsof> "the "monero archiver" situation..." <- What is a Monero archived 23:06:02 <alpharabius[m]> chesterfield[m]: An archive for monero src code 23:08:37 <nioc> plowsof> thinking hurts << can confirm 23:10:24 <alpharabius[m]> Think do hurt 23:10:31 <alpharabius[m]> Talk less 23:10:38 <alpharabius[m]> Think less 23:10:41 <alpharabius[m]> Aaaaa 23:11:28 <alpharabius[m]> Anyways let's get back on topic 23:17:31 <jwinterm> what's the topic? 23:26:51 <dscotese[m]> There are only two places in the config file where I can specify a port. I changed the rpcrestricted-bind from 18089 to 18081 and restarted the service and this fills the log with 2022-11-23 23:19:49.812 7f037f010780 FATAL net contrib/epee/include/net/abstract_tcp_server2.inl:1277 Error starting server: Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required) 23:29:21 <plowsof> 18081 is the default port the "unrestricted" binds too so you'll have to change that too 23:30:27 <plowsof> the topic is wownodes: do we need 2 more of them y/n 23:34:56 <plowsof> theres also a "--restricted-rpc" command you could just use too (to confuse even more) 23:35:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> <plowsof> "18081 is the default port the "..." <- Nono 23:35:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont change it, leave it alone 23:35:23 <plowsof> do nothing and use --restricted-rpc ? possible? 23:36:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> rpc-restricted-bind-ip=ip 23:36:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> rpc-restricted-bind-port=18089 23:37:07 <dscotese[m]> <plowsof> "18081 is the default port the "..." <- There is a config option to change the default port of the unrestricted binds? rpc-unrestricted-bind? I used Element's "Reply in Thread" feature to post something and it seems like you're replying to it, but I don't see it in the main chat here. I am reposing it... 23:38:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> rpc-bind-ip=127.0.0.1 23:38:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> rpc-bind-port=18081 23:38:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Are the default unrestricted settings 23:39:08 <dscotese[m]> dscotese[m]: No need to repost. It shows up under the message that started the thread (https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$V0Xo50SyqXDJlDXDJaMVsnjs-1YmhzyBRt-b0w8-zUw?via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat&via=monero.social) 23:39:23 <jwinterm> plowsof: one is enough - do we have less than one? 23:40:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> rpc-bind-ip=127.0.0.1... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/dd9412521de90cd48178a9bbecfaa973695c2c53>) 23:41:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> You cannot bind 23:41:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> `rpc-restricted-bind-port=18081` unless you change "rpc-bind-ip=not18081" 23:41:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Why would you use 18081 anyway 23:41:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Facepalm 23:41:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> I specifically said 18089 us closen because it doesnt conflict with other default ports 23:42:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> And whatttya do? You go try to be smart and use 18081 - a default port 23:43:06 <dscotese[m]> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> rpc-bind-ip=127.0.0.1... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/9bed547a21ddb5618cbb02dcf553a5af3a09808f>) 23:43:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> No.... 23:43:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ill say it again 23:45:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "18089 and restricted rpc are not..." <- ^ 23:46:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its not s bug. The rpc-restricted-bind-ip sets up a SECOND tunnel 23:46:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> You cant run both tunnels (unrestricted and restricted) on the same Oort 23:47:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nothing you do with rpc-restricted-bind-ip=ip... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/a29f0665a9191c3cc0ae021430f54de554b25d08>) 23:47:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> rpc-bind-port=18081 ** 23:48:29 <dscotese[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "And whatttya do? You go try to..." <- Paying too much attention to plowsof, I guess. 23:48:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cant put 2 shoes on the same foot, if you get what I mean 23:49:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Default / old style = one that you can choose to restrict 23:50:24 * jwinterm[m] uploaded an image: (1450KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/magicgrants.org/e51a5f979d1330dd42613e881be7398b5e6e8670/image.png > 23:50:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> New option = add a second tunnel for restricted rpc (while retaining access to unrestricted on the default 18081 or whatever port you choose) 23:51:46 <dscotese[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: So if I already opened 18081 on my router, that should expose the restricted rpc, and the unrestricted one should be on 18089. That seems to be what I started with, but I don't know how to test whether or not anyone can connect to it. When I tried with my phone, it says Connection Error. Trying again... 23:52:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> What are your config lines 23:52:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or your startup flags. Feel free to omitted the ip's 23:57:01 <dscotese[m]> My config lines keep changing as I try different things. The problem originally showed up after following CoinCashew's page, as described at https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/13816/what-is-an-effective-way-to-test-a-new-public-node-on-your-own-lan which shows the original settings that I thought were relevant. 23:57:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> What are they right now 23:57:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or right now its "whatever"? 23:57:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or are you using a config file..? 23:58:30 <dscotese[m]> I have changed them and forgot what they were before. Yes, a config file. 23:59:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Off topic: 23:59:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> 127.0.0.1:18089/get_info 23:59:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> 127.0.0.1:18081/get_info 23:59:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is a simple way to check your nodes in your browser (from the same pc) 23:59:31 <dscotese[m]> I was about to try this, but the port opened on my router is 18081:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/49d15fd6d416706a599f1dcff2b0e67a86de5b23>) 23:59:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> dscotese[m]: Well then stop changing em 23:59:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> > <@dscotese:matrix.lrn.fm> I was about to try this, but the port opened on my router is 18081:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/fca1599d63feefb4a408fe240f451e9fc9708053>) 23:59:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Change your router to 18089:18089