01:50:06 <plowsof> escapethe3ra: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z409ha/monero_powered_patreon_open_sourced_now/
02:41:05 <alpharabius[m]> plowsof: are you really me? And am i hallucinating
02:44:13 <plowsof> yes rayatina is my alt account 
02:44:25 <dukenukem> I knew it!
04:05:48 <dscotese[m]> I have a public node running but it doesn't seem to provide what a public node should provide.  It's at 47.154.168.228:18089.  I can test it with Monerujo and it connects, but while loading my wallet, it backs out.  I looked at the logs on my node and they don't show any entries corresponding to the failure.  This may be because I didn't set up tor or the i2p service.  Are public nodes expected to run something like that?
04:05:48 <dscotese[m]> CoinCashew says it's optional.
04:05:48 <dscotese[m]> I guess my ISP is at fault.  Sometimes I get connection error and sometimes I don't.  I suppose the wallet will back out if the connection breaks too much.
04:07:01 <dscotese[m]> s/much/often/
04:09:31 <plowsof> if all is well, you should be able to access this page http://47.154.168.228:18089/get_info (it does not work, see: http://node.monerodevs.org:18089/get_info)
04:11:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> My isp does similar 
04:12:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> I can only access my clearnet ip from devices on their network 
04:13:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> My onion works though 🥳
04:14:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmrqhjqb2zwl2zafkyv7cd52k5yrnivlu37mo7a7qsd4a3tva5id.onion:18089/get_info
04:14:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> * http://ofrnxmrqhjqb2zwl2zafkyv7cd52k5yrnivlu37mo7a7qsd4a3tva5id.onion:18089/get_info
04:15:49 <dscotese[m]> DOH!  TYPO ALERT  the IP address is actually 47.154.168.227, and that page does work.
04:16:22 <dscotese[m]>  * I have a public node running but it doesn't seem to provide what a public node should provide.  It's at 47.154.168.227:18089.  I can test it with Monerujo and it connects, but while loading my wallet, it backs out.  I looked at the logs on my node and they don't show any entries corresponding to the failure.  This may be because I didn't set up tor or the i2p service.  Are public nodes expected to run something like that?
04:16:22 <dscotese[m]> CoinCashew says it's optional.
04:16:22 <dscotese[m]> I guess my ISP is at fault.  Sometimes I get connection error and sometimes I don't.  I suppose the wallet will back out if the connection breaks too often.
04:16:22 <dscotese[m]> (Typo fixed from .228 to .227)
04:16:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> 404 not found here 
04:17:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nvmmm
04:17:21 <dscotese[m]> http://47.154.168.227:18089/get_info
04:17:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Working 
04:18:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monerujo doesnt actually lose connection btw
04:19:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> It has a visual bug where it appears to stop syncing without giving an error. Might be a different issue than what you had, but imo if youre testing.. use cake or cli
04:19:33 <dscotese[m]> I updated to Monerod version 18.1.2 a few minutes ago because I thought that might be it.
04:21:26 <dscotese[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: It lets me add a public node, which I did a few days ago.  It lets me choose which remote to use, and I choose mine.  Then it starts "Loading wallet" but instead of finishing and showing my balance, it backs out to the screen where you select a node and none is selected.
04:22:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monerujo is just buggy
04:23:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🦧
04:23:39 <dscotese[m]> My laptop has an SSH session open to the node and it does not disconnect.  Monerujo still says connection error.
04:24:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
04:24:10 <dscotese[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Okay, but it only happens with my own node.  Nearly all the other remotes I try work just fine.
04:24:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Step 1. Use s different wallet and report back
04:24:41 <dscotese[m]> But if you guys are able to use my node as a remote, I'm happy.  Maybe some day I will switch wallets.
04:24:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> I only use my own or onions 
04:25:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> dscotese[m]: Use a different wallet 
04:25:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Create a new wallet and see if it drops the connection 
04:25:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or... create a new wallet in monerujo and see if it still does it
04:25:50 <dscotese[m]> * But if <del>you guys, * guys are</del>, *  anyone is able to
05:02:07 <boloo[m]> Sir, why monero doesn't support 12 word and 24 word format?  Why monero does support 25 word formats?  I want to learn.
05:03:19 <cryptogrampy[m]> i think plowsof is familiar with the 25 word seeds
05:03:38 <cryptogrampy[m]> he knows a lot about ledger hardware wallets too 
05:04:06 <boloo[m]> Plowsof sir, please answer me. I want to learn.
05:04:10 <boloo[m]> Sir, why monero doesn't support 12 word and 24 word format?  Why monero does support 25 word formats?  I want to learn.
05:29:08 <boloo[m]> Plowsof sir please answer me
05:29:20 <boloo[m]> Sir, why monero doesn't support 12 word and 24 word format?  Why monero does support 25 word formats?  I want to learn.
05:30:28 <boloo[m]> Do you cryptogrampy know sir
05:30:31 <boloo[m]> Sir, why monero doesn't support 12 word and 24 word format?  Why monero does support 25 word formats?  I want to learn.
05:30:42 <boloo[m]> Answer sir
05:32:12 <boloo[m]> Answer please if you dont know, write i dont know
05:32:15 <boloo[m]> Sir, why monero doesn't support 12 word and 24 word format?  Why monero does support 25 word formats?  I want to learn.
08:22:56 <interloper[m]> lel
09:46:50 <plowsof> xD
10:25:57 <DanIsnotthemanBr> :/
10:27:42 <ajs_[m]> Reminder: MoneroKon 2023 Meeting: Sat. 26th Nov. 2022 @ 18:00 UTC - Review, approval of CFP & CCS Drafts - https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/753
10:29:34 <aureliju[m]> Hello there,... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/f63eeed530b814d5495deb41c20032c9596f7fa7>)
10:36:04 <jozsef[m]> No one is going to be interested in your scams here.
11:06:29 <alpharabius[m]> <ajs_[m]> "Reminder: MoneroKon 2023 Meeting..." <- A😃
11:06:40 <alpharabius[m]> * 😃
11:09:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> 🤪🔫
11:09:18 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Spammer
12:36:00 <alpharabius[m]> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "Spammer" <- Who sp@mmed
12:52:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> The same person, who else
12:54:08 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: 25 word ledger guy?
12:54:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sir. Yes Sir.
12:54:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its true Sir.
12:55:03 <alpharabius[m]> We should just ban that copypasta atp
12:55:24 <Siren[m]> We should save that copypasta somewhere
12:55:27 <Siren[m]> It'll be good history
12:55:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> ❤️❤️
12:58:12 <plowsof> be memorable ✅
13:01:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cough, mj, cough luigi1111: 
13:01:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Actually, luigi1111w:  I want the mean Luigi 
13:10:16 <n1oc> j-berman full-time development (3 months) is now fully funded! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/j-berman-3months-full-time-4.html
13:12:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> jberman: 
13:22:14 <alpharabius[m]> <n1oc> "j-berman full-time development (..." <- YOOOOO
13:22:15 <alpharabius[m]> Let's goo
13:23:31 <alpharabius[m]> Props jberman: 
14:25:59 <MajesticBank> great news, community support at highest level probably ever
15:05:42 <alpharabius[m]> I want some pi lol
15:08:07 <alpharabius[m]> Imagine what i could do with pi, i could host an xmr node, and a tor node
15:08:59 <Inge> wouldn't you rather get a different SBC with hw support for AES instructions?
15:12:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> As I said somehwere else, android > pi, all day, everyday 
15:13:54 <sech1> Even my old android phone from 2016 mines Monero and syncs monerod faster than pi
15:14:00 <sech1> and has more RAM obviously
15:14:35 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: What abt an android pi or a nuc?
15:15:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> What sech said ^
15:16:22 <monero666[m]> What software languages ​​should be known to be a monero developer, and is it possible to earn money as a monero developer freelancer?
15:16:55 <plowsof> i wonder how long it takes to sync a full node on a pi today, i know several months ago the number was around 1 month 
15:17:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Are you trying to learn? 
15:17:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or do you have skills in certain areas? 
15:18:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anything over a week, yeah right.
15:18:38 <monero666[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: none at all
15:18:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Android syncs a node to internal storage in 12-48hrs
15:18:53 <Rucknium[m]> monero666: If you want to work on the monero protocol itself, you need many years of C++ experience. You can earn monero if you are good
15:19:16 <sech1> many years is 10+ years I would say
15:19:16 <monero666[m]> I like cryptocurrency and blockchain topics.
15:19:21 <sech1> that codebase is not for beginners
15:20:51 <alpharabius[m]> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Anything over a week, yeah right.
15:20:51 <alpharabius[m]> > 
15:20:51 <alpharabius[m]> > Android syncs a node to internal storage in 12-48hrs
15:20:51 <alpharabius[m]> I would love to just have like 3-4 androids lying around so i can make an xmr node, tor relay, and maybe do some mining 
15:21:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> So whats holding you up?
15:21:20 <monero666[m]> Sir, are those in this group software experts and hackers?
15:21:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Señor 🐒
15:21:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> 24,25,24,25
15:21:59 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I don't have 3-4 androids laying around is the thing
15:22:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> monero666[m]: Ni
15:22:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Were pot heads who play Minecraft all day 
15:22:25 <alpharabius[m]> monero666[m]: >sir
15:22:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> alpharabius[m]: You have 1 laying around?
15:22:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> @plowsof hurry your ass uo
15:22:45 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Nope
15:23:06 <Rucknium[m]> monero666: Many projects build on top of Monero that do not require C++. They use JavaScript, Python, Rust, R, etc
15:23:19 <alpharabius[m]> The only one i have is my main phone which my mom got me and it's one of those new ones
15:23:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero666 is trolling Rucknium: 
15:23:29 <monero666[m]> I am not troll
15:23:33 <monero666[m]> I wondered
15:23:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> About those 24 words?
15:23:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ruck can answer you
15:23:54 <monero666[m]> No
15:24:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> He's the expert on things 
15:24:01 <alpharabius[m]> alpharabius[m]: No attachable storage, that kinda stuff
15:24:04 <monero666[m]> I am not troll
15:24:21 <plowsof> 24 or 25 words ledger spammer right?
15:24:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ruck, tell monero666 about the 25 words 
15:24:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Right
15:24:35 <Siren[m]> XDdd
15:24:57 <alpharabius[m]> Can even say sir here lol
15:25:01 <monero666[m]> Where are you from
15:25:06 <Siren[m]> Mongolia
15:25:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> See ^^
15:25:13 <Siren[m]> Same as you
15:25:19 <monero666[m]> Are u from usa
15:25:19 <alpharabius[m]> monero666[m]: Turkiye
15:25:38 <monero666[m]> where did you get turkey from
15:25:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its thankgiving 
15:26:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thanks plowsof
15:26:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> After speaking with this user for days, both here, in private and trying to help in a group chat
15:27:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its obvious they are just smoking crack and trying to waste our time 
15:27:22 <alpharabius[m]> I think i'm plowsof
15:27:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> The user doesnt even have a hardware wallet
15:27:31 <alpharabius[m]> Or plowsof is me
15:27:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think youre plowsof's puppy ❤️
15:27:56 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: 💀💀💀
15:28:05 <alpharabius[m]> 14 14 i am 14
15:28:19 <Rucknium[m]> alpharabius: Please keep trolling to #monero:monero.social . Actual work can happen in #monero-community:monero.social 
15:29:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> alpharabius:  ruck is right. This is the wrong room for random talk
15:29:07 <alpharabius[m]> Rucknium[m]: U right, i got off topic (even tho half the time no one knows the topic)
15:29:35 <alpharabius[m]> We were talking about pis and androids or smth i think
15:29:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> But Rucknium:  the trolling spammer was monero666. Has been trolling for a week now
15:30:03 <nioc> no random talk?  :(
15:31:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> But yeah, android, nodes, yes
15:31:22 <Rucknium[m]> This is technically a workgroup channel. #monero was bridge for you nioc. Now you can reap it.
15:31:30 <Rucknium[m]> bridged*
15:32:28 <Rucknium[m]> https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/
15:32:29 <nioc> Rucknium[m]: yeah but #monero is the #1 no random talk channel
15:33:09 <Rucknium[m]> #monero-offtopic:monero.social  <- want to bridge?
15:33:38 <Rucknium[m]> Or #monero-pools:libera.chat  is random talk I think
15:33:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^ pools is random af
15:34:00 <nioc> not there but off-topic should be bridged
15:34:45 <selsta> is there a reason why monero666 isn't banned yet?
15:34:51 <selsta> after spamming for a week?
15:35:56 <plowsof> ive banned the new? account here now (he just returns with a new one)
15:36:08 <plowsof> and now hes in -dev
15:37:42 <nioc> Rucknium[m]: I joined and yes offtopic is bridged, it was first created as an IRC room
15:37:59 <plowsof> just give me admin in every room, thanks 
15:38:06 <nioc> ^^^^^^^^^
15:38:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^^ 
15:38:31 <alpharabius[m]> ^
15:38:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Give plowsof mod in all rooms, including mrl and nrlounge
15:38:48 <selsta> ok I thought banning someone on matrix isn't per room
15:39:13 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Plowsof contributes so much to us in the matrix so he might as well
15:39:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plowsof only has power in one room. Maybe someone has global power, or the ability to ban by ip?
15:39:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> Er, 2 rooms
15:40:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> sgp:  please make plowsof admin or mod in -dev
15:49:52 <alpharabius[m]> Does anyone know what magicgrants is?
15:51:01 <plowsof> https://magicgrants.org/
15:52:53 <alpharabius[m]> A scholarship for crypto-related degrees
15:53:07 <alpharabius[m]> Is that right?
15:53:28 <alpharabius[m]> Hmmm
15:54:40 <alpharabius[m]> I might apply for it or spread the word about it
15:55:53 <MajesticBank> was there CCS funding yet for scholarship?
15:57:09 <alpharabius[m]> MajesticBank: When i'm in my senior year i might have to try it out
15:58:37 <Rucknium[m]> alpharabius: MAGIC is a nonprofit organization. One of the things it does is give crypto-related scholarships. It has a sub-entity called the MAGIC Monero Fund. The MMF hosts fundraising campaigns and gives grants to Monero-related research and development. I sit on the MMF committee
15:59:10 <alpharabius[m]> Rucknium[m]: So who else is in the committee
15:59:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> I believe you can find that info on the website
15:59:59 <Rucknium[m]> (Space to avoid pinging) kayaba Nerve, monero bull, deverick, Csilla
16:00:05 <Rucknium[m]> Yes, it's on the website
16:00:38 <alpharabius[m]> You guys do all this stuff for the community
16:00:41 <Rucknium[m]> https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/
16:00:44 <alpharabius[m]> I wanna do stuff for the community too
16:00:53 <MajesticBank> CSS for scholarship would have tight milestones
16:01:14 <alpharabius[m]> What abt ccs for certs?
16:01:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nah
16:01:35 <MajesticBank> best grades or McDonald + working community projects
16:02:10 <alpharabius[m]> I wanna work for community projects n stuff
16:02:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> You dont pay people to learn so they can go work for zcash 
16:02:34 <alpharabius[m]> Last week i was asking people if they had any projects they were working on that i could joinMajesticBank 
16:02:48 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr: zcringe
16:02:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Berman is a student, I believe. We dont pay his tuition but we do support his continued learning by paying him to deliver the results of the learning
16:03:09 <Rucknium[m]> alpharabius: Focus on learning skills first. You can learn many skills for free
16:03:37 <alpharabius[m]> That is true
16:03:43 <alpharabius[m]> But imagine me having my first cert at 14
16:03:47 <Rucknium[m]> I don't think Berman is a student. You may be thinking of jeffro
16:03:57 <alpharabius[m]> alpharabius[m]: That's insane
16:04:26 <Rucknium[m]> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/jeffro256-part-time-2022-q3.html
16:04:35 <nioc> berman has so many skills, if a student then one of those permanent kinds :)
16:05:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rucknium[m]: I think you may be right 
16:05:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> nioc:  I think you may be right as well
16:05:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because Berman is learning new skills along the way
16:06:47 <MajesticBank> I think it's very important for dev to follow the consensus on development
16:07:38 <MajesticBank> consults with others, so they all push the ship into good/same direction
16:09:45 <Rucknium[m]> MajesticBank: Do you want to post that in #monero-research-lab:monero.social ?
16:11:23 <MajesticBank> Will probably make reddit post, waiting for flair
16:19:48 <sgp[m]> The new Matrix room for the No Wallet Left Behind project is #no-wallet-left-behind:monero.social . It is also bridged to the Libera channel of the same name
16:20:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thanks sgp!
16:28:08 <plowsof> confirmation of monero .social being under control of Core for rbrunner
16:28:38 <rbrunner> Thanks, plowsof, reassuring.
18:42:53 <jberman[m]> Graduated in 2018 but always learning :)
21:31:33 <alpharabius[m]> Hey babes, what's the new ccs or whatever we talk about
21:34:27 <Siren[m]> alpharabius[m]: https://kernal.eu/~siren/monerodevs.org/static/
21:53:59 <SerHack> Siren[m]: I own getmonero.dev
22:51:52 <cryptogrampy[m]> <Siren[m]> "https://kernal.eu/~siren/..." <- HI SIREN WEN WILL THIS BE ON 500KB
22:53:08 <cryptogrampy[m]> ITS LOOKING VERY GOOD
22:54:26 <Siren[m]> What's a 500kb
22:54:35 <Siren[m]> cryptogrampy[m]: I need to get the images locally
22:54:49 <Siren[m]> And scale all convert them to webp or something 
22:55:01 <cryptogrampy[m]> Siren[m]: that list of sub 500kb sites 🙃
22:55:07 <Siren[m]> Ah
22:55:11 <Siren[m]> Maybe xd
22:56:08 <cryptogrampy[m]> If anyone is looking for a project, it would be great to have a list of all monero projects sortable/filterable by the top 1 or 2 languages in the repo
22:56:31 <cryptogrampy[m]> maybe contact info for getting involved etc. 
23:06:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero-ecosystem is there too
23:17:02 <plowsof> Siren should i forward monerodevs to your new and improved version? is so, how would i do that 0-0
23:19:05 <Siren[m]> You can set a CNAME record monerodevs.org to de-hez-4.d.digilol.net
23:19:28 <Siren[m]> I'll migrate the site there in the morning
23:34:46 * alpharabius[m] uploaded an image: (27KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/kUPXBUMTJUsgwDQsdIeyNktF/Screenshot_20221125_183433.jpg >
23:35:16 <alpharabius[m]> Xmr video games
23:35:26 <alpharabius[m]> Games that accept xmr
23:43:46 <plowsof> townforge 
23:44:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Binance.com