00:31:37 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://monero.observer/cypherpunk-transmission-007-creating-monero-view-only-wallets/
00:37:41 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://twitter.censors.us/sethforprivacy/status/1576956763957755907#m
02:05:57 <ajs_[m]> plowsof:  do you know if the CCS backend uses one wallet for all proposals and generates a new sub-address for each one or is a new wallet created for each proposal
02:06:15 <plowsof> 1 wallet , new sub-address for each 
02:06:55 <plowsof> ajs_
02:11:25 <ajs_[m]> i assume the view key is not publicly available
02:11:52 <ajs_[m]> i ask because part of the monerokon proposal includes rewards for donors
02:11:55 <ajs_[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/362#ccs-donor-benefits
02:12:23 <ajs_[m]> i need a way to verify transaction ids and amounts 
02:13:30 <ajs_[m]> i guess i could coordinate with you when i get a message from a donor and you can check the id and amount in the backend?
02:17:32 <plowsof> yes its public, don't worry :)
02:18:11 <plowsof> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2071 ajs_ 
02:19:04 <plowsof> so donors need to "prove" payment (not just txid+amount as its public)
02:20:23 <ajs_[m]> i see
02:23:29 <plowsof> https://www.exploremonero.com/receipt , and do-able directly inside the gui i believe? feather wallet has its own system too... hm 
02:24:33 <plowsof> either way, donors can prove payments no problem 👍️
02:26:28 <nioc> do you know how to prove with the CLI?
02:27:42 <plowsof> of course i do(n't) - but a guide says check_tx_key TXID TXKEY ADDRESS 0-0
02:28:12 <plowsof> wrong, thats for checking 
02:28:58 <plowsof> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/prove-payment.html
02:29:30 <nioc> yeah just found it in the wallet
02:29:39 <plowsof> i still don't know after reading the guide 
02:29:48 <nioc> been long time since I've done it
02:29:56 <nioc> it's ez
02:30:41 <plowsof> ok so 'get one time tx key' .. then check it.. i think i understand 
02:31:39 <ajs_[m]> I'll add some information about the proving process in the CSS
02:31:48 <ajs_[m]> *ccs
02:32:18 <plowsof> our plan has been foiled 
02:35:55 <nioc> there is both get_tx_key <txid>  and get_tx_proof <txid> <address>
02:36:21 <nioc> the later produces a file with what I guess is a hash
02:36:52 <nioc> luigi would know what is best
02:37:55 <nioc> s/what/which
02:39:50 <ajs_[m]> from CLI, i would need "TXID" and "TXKEY"
02:40:31 <nioc> thumbs_up
02:40:45 <ajs_[m]> for GUI, the "payment proof" ("P")
11:21:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> nioc: get tx proof and check tx proof
11:48:09 <monerobull[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z7q4ev/announcing_new_digital_items_platform_for_creators/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
11:48:16 <monerobull[m]>  * https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z7q4ev/announcing_new_digital_items_platform_for_creators/
12:50:36 <meanwhile-in-com> How can I accept Monero donations transparently so everyone can see the amount of each donation into the wallet?
12:51:54 <monerobull[m]> Post the viewkey 
12:52:28 <monerobull[m]> And only ever spend your entire balance, otherwise you will have incoming change transactions that look like donations but aren't 
12:53:37 <meanwhile-in-com> monerobull[m]: Thanks! Does this mean it's not possible to differentiate between receiving and sending?
12:54:12 <monerobull[m]> Viewkeys without a key image only show incoming transactions 
12:55:14 <sech1> change you receive after sending is also seen as an incoming transaction
12:55:21 <sech1> so only do sweep_all from that wallet
12:55:30 <monerobull[m]> So if you send 1 XMR to a wallet and then send that same xmr to the wallet itself, the viewkey will show 2 incoming transactions for a total of 2 XMR
12:58:07 <meanwhile-in-com> I don't think I understand
13:05:45 <sech1> You have 10 XMR, you send 3 XMR, you get 7 XMR back as a change. Viewkey will show 7 XMR as an incoming transaction
13:07:27 <meanwhile-in-com> I wouldn't have expected that behavior
13:08:16 <sech1> This is how viewkey works
15:13:30 <monerobull[m]> Rucknium: is your njalla stuff down too?
16:22:42 <Siren[m]> again lol
18:50:09 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Ownd
20:23:22 <alpharabius[m]> Guys
20:23:28 <alpharabius[m]> I come to you with a proposition
20:23:48 <alpharabius[m]> Help me get my first cert - i work for you
20:29:16 <meanwhile-in-com> <alpharabius[m]> "Help me get my first cert - i..." <- Sounds good
21:23:27 <spacekitty420[m]> meanwhile-in-communist-russia: shit..... that pseudonym is literally like the moral of that movie "triangl of sadness:... like...  i might just be ded by th end of today but if u saw that movie, that's literallly ur username, just saying.................................................................
21:24:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cat, are you still drinking?
21:24:28 <spacekitty420[m]> am ded lol
21:24:56 <spacekitty420[m]> neighbors came knowcking not ahp[pey
21:25:20 <spacekitty420[m]> *neighbors came kndocking cnot happey
21:25:35 <spacekitty420[m]> ded af
21:27:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is that a yes
21:28:47 <spacekitty420[m]> yes and gonna be ded by tomorrow so who gives a fuck anyways..... fuck u ofrnxmr 
21:29:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wym? I thought u meant ded as some sorta synonym for drunk
21:29:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Are you a woman?
21:30:10 <spacekitty420[m]> well,yeah......... and ye yea lol, tf?
21:33:38 <spacekitty420[m]> i know yall weirdos up in here be like havijng some sort of adictiction to transecsxual portn pon portnhub or whathhetave but yea... am acutally born worn and anti-trnashusmanism LOL., like is some hit hat dont event exist so fck yall justr saying lmao... anyways, that;s prob for some #offtopopic or sjome sit anyways, eithe waysm fuck yall, just ayin
21:34:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Whaaattt
21:34:10 <spacekitty420[m]> fuc u LOL
21:34:18 <spacekitty420[m]> thats whattttt
21:34:21 <spacekitty420[m]> 🧓
21:34:24 <spacekitty420[m]> :derp: 
21:34:42 <spacekitty420[m]> *
21:34:58 <eudaimon36[m]> This is the best Monero chat I have seen to date....
21:35:41 <spacekitty420[m]> #kaylay's dairy amiraite...? :derp: 
21:35:55 <spacekitty420[m]> fuck yall
21:36:06 <eudaimon36[m]> hahaha
21:36:06 <spacekitty420[m]> amd duck mj too
21:36:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Kitty im just talking a second to figure out wym
21:36:46 <spacekitty420[m]> ofrnxmr: sowry booboo
21:40:31 <meanwhile-in-com> Let's say hypothetically I need to start laundering tens of thousands of dollars and I'm considering doing it with Monero, what's the best way to start?
21:43:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> You send it to my address.
21:43:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> This is community, for work.
21:43:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> not "how to launder money helpline"
21:43:56 <eudaimon36[m]> Plus, we were working with Kitty on a major dev problem
21:50:10 <DanIsnotthemanBr> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> You send it to my address.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/1af17106d80a65f307b5b55a6174f4044ef76be7>)
22:15:11 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] escapethe3RA opened pull request #363: escapethe3RA Monero Observer maintenance (Winter 2022)
22:15:11 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/363
23:04:41 <Siren[m]> ofrnxmr: 💀https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z0dng5/manifesttims_translation_report_sepoctnov/iy4o3mn/
23:07:03 <Siren[m]> He's gonna sue the CCS!!1!
23:07:13 <Siren[m]> Everybody shut the fuck up!!1!11!
23:10:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> I hope he names me in that lawsuit "ofrnxmr aka perfect daemon aka ooo123 aka Santa Clause aka my dad" 
23:25:24 <plowsof> Santa claus' list 🎅
23:28:32 <nioc> ooofrnxmr
23:30:58 <nioc> plowsantaof
23:33:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Will we lose the lawsuit :( 
23:33:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im scared