01:00:02 <alpharabius[m]> Guys
01:00:53 <alpharabius[m]> I want to pursue a job related to security and/or xmr when i'm done with school but my mom wants me to go to college
01:00:58 <alpharabius[m]> What do i do
01:01:34 <plowsof> go to #monero-offtopic:monero.social 
01:01:52 <alpharabius[m]> That's what i do?
10:48:42 <josef66[m]> Friends, mobile wookey monero wallet is reliable or not?  What are your thoughts?
11:05:09 <josef66[m]> Heyyy you did see but you don't answer. Why?
11:05:11 <josef66[m]> Answer me.
11:06:09 <CidadodoMonerist> Havent heard of it
11:06:26 <dashiz> cake wallet and point it at your own node
11:11:16 <josef66[m]> Friends, mobile wookey monero wallet is reliable or not?  What are your thoughts?
11:11:34 <josef66[m]> Please answer me. Please search wookey monero wallet.
11:11:54 <josef66[m]> I want to understand me.
11:13:52 <rbrunner> That starts to sound suspiciously like that 25 words problem ...
11:17:24 <josef66[m]> rbrunner: No.  It's about the wallet.
11:18:47 <rbrunner> I think wookey is one of the lesser-known, lesser-used wallets, at least in the West, exotic if you will, so it might be difficult to get people with experience
11:19:28 <rbrunner> Leads to the question "Does it have to be Wookey for a special reason?" If not, there are much better known and more often used options
11:23:06 <rbrunner> I just saw that their Android version was last updated Aug 26, 2020. That can't possibly work anymore at all, because of the hardfork.
12:10:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> <rbrunner> "That starts to sound suspiciousl..." <- Yeah
13:07:05 <rbrunner> If anybody should develop any urge to try WooKey wallet: Don't. Both iOS and Android app can't work in the offered versions.
13:15:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> 24/25
13:17:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/issues/3302#issuecomment-1170564553
13:21:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/WooKeyWallet/monero-wallet-android-app/issues/10#issuecomment-1159604552
13:22:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr rbrunner: the guy is wasting your time on purpose 
13:26:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> And Fwiw there is a hard fork version of wookey but the project is far from one id recommend.
13:26:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/WooKeyWallet/monero-wallet-android-app/releases/tag/v2.2.1
17:09:29 <sgp[m]> Hey everyone! We launched the ability to buy XMR on the Monero.com website in 40 US states with Visa/Mastercard. It also works in most other countries, with extra payment methods. It requires KYC, so it's not for everyone, but we are excited to make the new option available. More information: https://www.reddit.com/r/cakelabs/comments/z9sx5r/buying_xmr_with_creditdebit_card_is_now_live_in/
17:09:29 <sgp[m]> Yes, we will add this directly to the Cake Wallet and the Monero.com app in the coming months :)
17:14:25 <RavFX[m]> KYC.
17:14:26 <RavFX[m]> I guess using visa/mastercard also KYC by default.
17:14:32 <RavFX[m]> * also KYC you by default.
17:15:53 <Siren[m]> I'll try converting my salary 
17:18:19 <RavFX[m]> sgp: The widget to choose what currency you convert to XMR when you buy. Can you update it so you can put the amount of XMR you want to buy (Like if someone want to buy X amount of XMR without having to guess by inputting fiat amount and updating it until the number of XMR match what you want?
17:18:48 <sgp[m]> RavFX[m]: currently, it's a variable/floating rate, not a fixed rate. fixed rates for those aren't yet supported sadly
17:19:01 <sgp[m]> > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> KYC.
17:19:01 <sgp[m]> > I guess using visa/mastercard also KYC you by default.
17:19:01 <sgp[m]> yes, it is KYC, so definitely not for everyone
17:35:34 <kinghat[m]> is just using your CC all the kyc required?
17:37:16 <sgp[m]> kinghat[m]: No, it requires a separate ID check
17:39:30 <sgp[m]> In Cake Wallet, you can buy BTC/LTC through Mercuryo (in the Buy widget) up to $1000 using Apple Pay, with no additional ID check
17:40:49 <nioc> "Visa along with other participants is working with the “World Economic Forum on a set of policy recommendations for central banks exploring the concept of Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC).”
17:41:45 <Siren[m]> Of course
17:41:53 <RavFX[m]> Yeah, best way is to just cut the old shady system out of the equation
17:42:44 <RavFX[m]> Get paid in crypto or get you're XMR using cash by mail.
17:43:16 <sgp[m]> dEBRUYNE: can you check on our r/monero post to approve please? Thanks :)
17:43:52 <sgp[m]> RavFX[m]: direct peer to peer crypto payments are the best, absolutely
17:44:04 <sgp[m]> those are more appealing to people if there are easy on/off ramps though
17:46:11 <RavFX[m]> how easy are the ramp really depend of the user I think.
17:46:11 <RavFX[m]> As an unbanked/out of the system person, Using KYCed thing with Visa or Mastercard is like the hardest option available.
17:46:11 <RavFX[m]> KYCed mastercard/visa option are great for normal banked guys who don't care too much about privacy but would like some crypto.
17:47:14 <RavFX[m]> Easy ramp for normies = easier for normies to pay there employee with xmr :)
17:48:38 <sgp[m]> RavFX[m]: exactly, basically this. it's easier to pay people in XMR if it's easier for the employer to buy it
17:50:04 <RavFX[m]> Yep. my customer have hard time sometime to source the cryptos and they often pay me late.. The more easy option the better
17:50:09 <RavFX[m]> s/customer/customers/
17:52:07 <RavFX[m]> And they want to stay legit with the taxes so they are not interesting into getting random contacts on p2p exchanges
17:52:14 <RavFX[m]> s/interesting/interested/
18:00:18 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 148: November 24 - December 1, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-148.html
20:24:57 <dEBRUYNE> sgp[m]: Is it still in the queue?
20:25:42 <sgp[m]> dEBRUYNE: yeah. Can I delete, repost, and you approve that one?
20:28:46 <dEBRUYNE> If you desire, I just approved the older one
20:29:17 <sgp[m]> dEBRUYNE: please approve this one; deleted the other one https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z9yrbq/buying_xmr_with_creditdebit_card_is_now_live_in/
20:31:07 <dEBRUYNE> Done
20:35:57 <sgp[m]> thank you :)
20:40:04 <dEBRUYNE> np!
22:32:05 <escapethe3ra[m]> https://monero.observer/monero-observer-blitz-november-2022/