02:23:02 anon: perfect peer to peer protocol from bottom to top Completed but the proposer feels they deserve more for their work thus are refusing to collect 02:23:03 ??? 02:24:48 What abt it? 02:27:45 Where is the quote from 02:32:07 plowsofs ccs list 02:39:34 Yeah purgatory list 02:41:14 "its complicated" thats my brief summary , they are boycotting the payout amount basically 02:55:58 HELLO 02:59:03 hi there grampy 02:59:24 what's happening today 03:00:25 i've been busy building some real world integrations with cumrocket (ticker: CUMMIES) smart contracts. have there been any new monero developments as of late 03:18:08 monero is shutting down eoy 03:30:02 oh right, the 2023 exit scam 03:36:20 not until April I hear 03:38:18 will i be able to use this scan_tx business with a view-only wallet 03:38:24 before april, of course 03:41:52 I know nothing about view only wallets 03:48:35 oh view only and scan_tx, it wouldn't show the spend, but detect the change input, but other than that it would work yeah 03:51:56 ""its complicated" thats my brief..." <- Not necessarily 03:52:10 They are boycotting the fact that the code is still sitting unreviewed 03:52:19 7999 for example 03:53:23 And they were boycotting all year because of multisig (never merged), 7999 and 7760(barely made the hard fork but wasnt even on the table) 03:54:13 Also, he doesnt like that devs were being paid to not review the work 03:55:01 I dont think he cares about the money as much as he cares about the ecosystem, and he's more like "you cant pay me to stfu" 03:55:28 paid not to review? 03:55:59 The pr sat idle while devs did readme's and spelling erros 03:56:56 *errors 03:57:18 How much I owe you for that? 03:58:22 Anyway, anon ccs is completed (AFAIK) and not collected. Much different from incomplete ccs that are AWOL 03:58:36 for sure 03:59:25 it's under 'other' 04:00:01 needs its own section of "its complicated" 06:40:12 currently testing owncast selfhosting live stream https://live.monerokon.com 06:41:04 and also have a mastodon instance up https://social.monerokon.com 06:41:52 email confirmations is not working yet and need to manually confirm sign ups 06:42:29 check out out and let me how it is working 06:42:47 s/out/it/ 06:57:35 "currently testing owncast..." <- If we want to reach a larger audience at least mirror the stream to twitch or YouTube or both 08:08:39 monerobull: no problem, we can do simulcasting, but we would need to get a vimeo pro account 08:08:51 https://vimeo.com/blog/post/what-is-a-simulcast/ 09:09:01 > <@123bob123:matrix.org> anon: perfect peer to peer protocol from bottom to top Completed but the proposer feels they deserve more for their work thus are refusing to collect 09:09:01 > 09:09:01 > ??? 09:09:01 Are anon's PRs actually merged? Last time I've checked there was much more scarce review power invested into anon's PRs than there were ever reposes to the review points. All wasted time basically. Did anything change? 09:09:56 Because review points not addressed = work not completed. 09:10:42 Let alone showing to the public the exact attack vector via the tests shared right at the same PR. And that for more than a year now. 09:18:38 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7760 <-- Perfect-daemon 's branch opened on the 22 June 2021, so almost 1.5 year ago. Right now in a `merge-conflict` stage, plus roughly 25 review points, only ~5 replies of the author. Ergo: work abandoned. 09:20:06 selsta was forcefully pushing people to review this one, even though the review points weren't being addressed at all. I want to believe this was good intended, but all a waste of resources and budget, IMO. 09:21:58 plowsof: Here's a full list of merged branches: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aperfect-daemon+is%3Aclosed 09:22:34 But here's a brief list of abandoned branches: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pulls/perfect-daemon 09:23:42 The very latest one was opened on 14 December 2021, which is this one: 09:23:43 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8113 09:23:59 Superseded by something better again. 09:25:12 I understand that these are hardcore topics, and a lot of commotion can be seen, but not replying to reviewers points is a common pattern here. 09:25:26 * I understand that these are hardcore topics, and a lot of commotion is expected to be seen, but not replying to reviewers points is a common pattern here. 09:25:47 This is something that can be tolerated only in one-man's show projects. 10:30:54 BTW, if ofrnxmr replies to my messages, I can't see them as I regularly block all the bad actors. 10:31:28 In fact ofrnxmr and ooo123ooo123 as well as wfaresuissia are all perfect-daemon / aka anon 's sock puppets. 10:31:57 So please take this into account when reading the replies. 10:32:52 ah. And so is nahuhu 11:22:30 "Superseded by something better..." <- Liar 11:24:23 "https://github.com/monero-..." <- Fake reviewed by you (and paid for it). Code was merged under a new pr after being properly reviewed by competent developers. 11:25:23 "Let alone showing to the..." <- All the while , this scammer was busy fixing readme and charging to count hours instead of reviewing such code. 11:26:05 When asked "why didnt you review" mj-xmr: talks about shooting anon 11:28:15 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (523KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/xnjpwdtMhrRUAvXmXwTxMTTe/Imagepipe_690.jpg > 11:33:24 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (564KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/UqonYiNklkSjBbExLMPzlgdN/Imagepipe_691.jpg > 11:55:45 last year I saw few times monerkon live stream with like 7-8 viewers 11:56:10 we should probably reach to twitter *space* audience 14:09:10 "monerobull: no problem, we can..." <- You don't need this 14:10:23 You can restream it its not difficult, also as for live stream redistribution I do not suggest DO, its networking will probably would be the biggest bottleneck, we would need something like this https://www.keycdn.com/support/publishing-an-http-live-stream 14:34:01 "https://github.com/monero-..." <- This code was merged on July 7 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8426. So nobody cares if there's a merge conflict or not. 14:34:01 Also the review here that you were paid to do was absolutely unrelated 14:34:01 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7760#issuecomment-1144541045 14:34:57 > <@siren:kernal.eu> This code was merged on July 7 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8426. So nobody cares if there's a merge conflict or not.... (full message at ) 14:35:11 2) Tell me how much exactly was I paid for this? 14:35:20 numbers please. 14:36:32 Siren: secondly, how would you comment my findings? 14:36:32 do you work for frss? 14:36:36 free? 14:36:49 Right now yes. 14:37:09 That's why I even talk with bad actors like you right now, nioc 14:37:30 Otherwise I wouldn't bother about your spam. 14:37:52 I thought we were talking about something did in the past, not now 14:38:09 Do you know English? 14:38:37 maybe 14:38:46 Poorly. 14:39:17 :D 14:39:38 nioc: This is a simple present sentence, by no means a past. 14:39:58 Whatever. Welcome to my sewage. 14:40:14 Siren: ? 14:40:42 I would like a poll as to whether or not I am a bad actor :) 14:41:32 "2) Tell me how much exactly..." <- Here's your hourly rate at the given time if you have forgotten https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/287 14:41:47 Yes so how much was I paid for reviewing this? 14:42:09 I don't care but you were paid for it 14:42:16 You don't know 14:42:24 So why bother telling bullshit? 14:42:24 I don't need to know 14:42:37 You don't need to know because you care about telling bullshit. 14:42:39 That's in your proposal 14:42:39 Why? 14:42:49 I'm not asking about the hourly rate 14:42:53 You wrote that you're gonna do this 14:43:02 I'm asking about this particular review 14:43:30 I don't know much of your hourly rate you allocated yourself for leaving a bullshit review or attending community meetings or spending lotsa hours for setting up your dev env 14:44:02 OK Siren doesn't know but likes to talk a lot of BS. 14:44:03 Point 14:44:36 Was I paid for attending community meetings? Any proofs for that? 14:45:10 mj-xmr[m]: Lmfao as if the exact amount you were paid for this review matters. Your CCS proposal contained that you would review stuff and that was one of your reviews. You're calling it bullshit but anybody can read and verify these. 14:46:00 Yes. I reviewed others. 14:46:01 And why wouldn't the exact value for this particular PR matter? 14:46:36 Doesn't it matter if I spend 5 minutes one one thing but 5 hours on another thing? 14:47:02 You're an IT student, correct? Do you do your math this way as well? 14:47:36 Secondly what about the content of my comment then/ 14:47:37 Siren: he charged 1 hr 14:47:44 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/vf7bcn/mjs_dev_report_mayjune_2022_33/ 14:47:49 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (46KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/pvNjCFKOnqJzCrbRAucvRMum/Imagepipe_692.jpg > 14:47:53 Also charged for counting hours 14:48:12 Was I completely wrong about ofrnxmr exposing the vulnerabilities or not? 14:48:22 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (51KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/qpzBOomEaWoxrIjllvcnmHnM/Imagepipe_693.jpg > 14:48:36 You're the security expert so you should be able to say autoritatively. 14:48:40 Completely wrong πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ 14:49:00 100%. This guy is a space cadet 14:49:11 Do you think ofrnxmr violated the MVProcess? 14:49:14 or not? 14:49:25 Simple question that a security expert should be able to answer.\ 14:50:01 mj-xmr[m]: What matters is the quality of your reviews 14:50:06 mj-xmr[m]: Unrelated, shitposting 14:50:17 Unrelated. OK, security expert. 14:50:28 OK, scammer 14:50:54 Security doesn't matter, yes? It's unrelated. - says Siren. 14:51:10 Lol 14:51:21 So what about other reviews? 14:51:28 Siren[m]: . 14:51:51 I don't care 14:52:10 You fucked up by trying to witch hunt this dev 14:52:16 Was 5 minutes that I spent on 7760 all that I did, Siren ? 14:52:18 And shit posting under his PR 14:52:51 Siren[m]: Security findings are shitposting for Siren. 14:53:51 mj-xmr[m]: There was none in your review and your review was absolutely unrelated to the PR. 14:54:21 Siren[m]: Again. I asked you a question, that you failed to answer. Scroll up. 14:54:22 Plus we've seen your understanding of security 14:54:38 I make mistakes and fix them. Only you don't make mistakes. 14:54:57 Plus, I'm waiting for the answer. 14:55:00 Yeah after you get called out 14:55:17 in some circles we call it "get reviewed". 14:55:25 Probably not attainable for you. 14:55:31 mj-xmr[m]: Yeah you do that before calling it done 14:55:46 Care to explain what you mean? 14:56:18 No 14:56:47 "Was I completely wrong about..." <- Still thinking about the answer? 14:56:56 Then answer first. 14:56:58 Take your time. 14:57:14 mj-xmr[m]: No 14:57:22 ofrnxmr: took more than a year. 14:57:23 So your security pondering can take a few days. No problemo. 14:57:37 Whatever you mean by that 14:57:56 I mean that he exposed the exact attack vector by showing all the tests. 14:58:09 Easy to reproduce outside of the PR./ 14:58:17 True or false? 14:58:24 or "I con't care"? 14:58:46 * or "I don't care"? 14:59:06 "I don't care. YOU GOT PAID is all that I care about!" 14:59:23 Plus, what about my other reviews and merged PRs? 14:59:28 Still waiting for any solid answers. 14:59:35 mj-xmr[m]: Yes you got paid to do something in a horrendous way 14:59:47 I don't care about your other reviews and PRs 14:59:56 Do you remember what I actually wanted to do in March? 15:00:04 Or "you don't care"? 15:00:08 Siren[m]: You're an unstable individual who's likely to repeat the same 15:00:23 I didn't apply for the next CCS. 15:00:24 mj-xmr[m]: No 15:00:52 So hard to repeat the same mistake of ever meeting an unstable angry person like you in my life again. Yes. 15:01:21 Hmm 15:01:21 Siren[m]: then let me explain. 15:01:45 Tao 15:03:09 * Hmm https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$Fa-jkQ1KCvrbN64rgegGvBWiQU4TlgMvRupww5F_YEQ?via=monero.social&via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat 15:03:23 Just like now, when @selsta blocked my currently in progress research job for MAGIC, selsta also blocked my tsqsim further development, also for Rucknium . Same thing, just then under CCS, now under MAGIC. The result would be the same: detecting fingerprints in MyMonero (or other wallets). Why did selsta do everything possible to block this research twice in the same year? 15:03:41 So tsqsim and other research topics are things that I wanted to do. 15:03:58 While selsta forcefully took me to do BS reviews, that I didn't apply for. 15:04:06 I hope it gets clearer for you now. 15:04:20 Not at all 15:04:31 i fully support this comment -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/yyohle/comment/iwvdihe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 15:04:56 magic wouldn't fund you either had they known about the shit storm you caused 15:04:57 plowsof: The deleted one? 15:05:11 Siren[m]: I've never asked them. 15:05:24 Plus you haven't seen a shit storm just yet. 15:05:25 * magic wouldn't put your proposal up either had they known about the shit storm you caused 15:05:35 Ugh I'm not interested in seeing 15:05:48 I'm sure somebody will tell you. 15:06:30 mj-xmr[m]: He has me on ignore 15:06:50 So... what storm πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜† guys hiding under the bed 15:07:10 mj has lost the support of -community and -dev , and is pretty much in self destruct mode. i would just ignore them or let them 15:07:10 plowsof: Him FFS. 15:07:22 ofrnxmr[m]: Everyone is a bad actor in this room ࢞࢞࢞࢞࢞࢞࢞࢞࢞ 15:07:32 let them expose their strange opinions / behaviour in public* 15:07:35 He's talking about his lawsuit. Im scared 15:07:38 him.... 15:07:50 Unless it's strange for you. 15:08:12 now with that said, do everyone a favour and shut up 15:08:40 Which comment dod you mean, plowsof ? 15:08:59 The one where only lies and false allegations were told, and that you propagated? 15:09:20 If you're looking for that comment, I have all the screenshots. 15:09:22 so... 15:09:41 mj-xmr[m]: Fascinating we could verify his false allegations 15:09:54 I already let you with the report that I wrote. 15:10:06 That report was a large shitpost as well 15:10:09 Rucknium: πŸ˜† good luck! 15:10:11 mj you're insane , no one cares about your ramblings, you're a laughing stock here 15:10:16 And you never posted it here 15:10:31 You simply didn't understand it, Siren , because it's not your area of expertise. 15:10:35 you're broken as a human being 15:11:08 Siren[m]: I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE: 15:11:09 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z233q4/soloptxmr_quadriple_double_80_fee_explanation/ 15:11:27 ask not what Monero can do for you, ask what you can do for Monero 15:11:27 Before you shut up - apologise for the death threat, and acknowledge Ukraines existence 15:11:42 plowsof: It doesn't appear so. 15:11:53 Many "experts" seem to be triggered. 15:12:08 plowsof: SLAVA UKRAINI! 15:12:19 plowsof: Don't say to go get yer jabs πŸ˜† 15:12:28 you are a literal laughing stock. a meme around here 15:12:57 > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE: 15:12:57 > https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z233q4/soloptxmr_quadriple_double_80_fee_explanation/ 15:12:57 So said blackouts didn't happen 15:13:01 plowsof: Do you own XRP? 15:13:23 I also didn't die from vaccines 15:13:27 Siren[m]: Yet. 15:13:35 πŸ’€ 15:13:49 Siren[m]: I'm not a doctor, but if you do, you won't be able to tell us. 15:14:53 Don't worry you'd know 15:15:25 I hope you've got a saline based one, and you'll be fine. 15:16:06 XD 15:17:15 "You simply didn't understand it,..." <- Why would you post something like this if none of us have the capability to understand it 15:17:47 I said that YOU alone don't have the capacity to understand it. 15:18:07 Or to be precise - capacity you do have, but just no time, I'm sure. 15:18:12 Which I understand. 15:19:06 But what I expect is just that if you open your mouth - make sure it's something factual. 15:19:12 that's true althea_ 15:19:19 This channel is feeling like a high school girls locker room 15:20:46 didn't someone make a comment about how being a teacher / working with younger people effects them πŸ˜† 15:20:49 mj-xmr[m]: Nobody has time to read that, especially when you could have just said "sorry guys I forgor" instead 15:21:14 Except, how do you forget 70 lines of code πŸ’€ 15:21:18 plowsof: I think he changed his mind because he said recruiting students was a failure 15:21:23 plowsof: It can drive you crazy. That's for sure. 15:21:35 Added "because nahuhh told me to". Sounds intentional, not accidental 15:21:38 there was one about females too 15:21:47 Oh my. 15:22:01 That's a no-go for sure. 15:22:43 i forget the exact comment but it was definitely sus 15:23:05 and/or inappropriate, i forget who said it 15:23:26 plowsof: Yes. it's 2022. 15:23:29 Alright. It was nice to refute your another round of false allegations. But we're sliding off topic, which would mean to me that you have no factual arguments left. 15:23:39 Be sure to invite me for another cup of tea. 15:23:42 "You're an IT student, correct..." <- Look at him trying to pull an endor on me :D 15:24:01 Sorry? What? It didn't cross my mind TBG 15:24:05 TBH 15:24:09 don't forget to submit you're monerokon presentations everyone 15:24:32 Yes. That's a better topic :) 15:25:18 o/ 15:26:18 mj-xmr[m]: Especially when this guy has the potential to lash out on someone at the conference 15:32:24 What a sissy 15:32:54 πŸ˜” poor guy. 15:33:24 "Yes. it's 2022." <- What did he mean by that tho 15:34:02 Pedophilia is ok in 2022 15:38:03 Are you people testing Libera.chat's filter and see how long it takes until something springs up? 15:39:19 No? 15:39:31 Mj is the only one threatening people and saying he like Lil girls? 15:40:49 Everyone else is either being threatened, preyed on or lied on 15:47:42 unfounded accusations of this nature will not be tolerated ofrnxmr 15:49:02 the comment was made about university age students - inappropriate/weird none the less 15:53:35 * needmoney90 asks politely for mod again so he can growl at people 15:53:58 Hey luigi1111, you guys need someone to swing a hammer? :D 15:54:27 not you please 15:55:15 Lol. 15:56:53 As far as you go, majestic, you refuse to answer legitimate questions regarding user safety. Your service's lack of professionalism is the issue. 15:57:32 But that isn't the issue here. The problem is the children throwing mud at each other in a public channel. 15:57:32 needmod90 16:03:09 b-but he said , and then he, and did * cries hyperventilating * 16:03:19 What are we whining about now 16:03:30 I leave plowsy in charge 16:03:39 Oh, that may get interesting. 16:03:50 luigi1111: I was called a bad actor 16:04:08 Nioc we have tolerated your bad acting for too long. 16:04:25 Maybe you should find a job in a field other than theater 16:04:34 Ok nioc, let's hear your defense. Why are you NOT a bad actor? 16:05:03 I was also accused of bad english which is true 16:05:28 Understandable when you talk to your cat every day 16:11:15 does this mean that plowsof can change the IRC title page to the correct dates for meetings? 16:14:07 i only have rights matrix side to do that where the topic is "This room is bridged to libera.chat IRC. For next meeting info check: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/ || Off Topic: #monero-offtopic:monero.social" 16:16:12 shows me you are op on irc too 16:18:54 *for me 16:19:04 same for me 16:19:23 it said 16:19:35 * luigi1111 gives channel operator status to plowsof 16:19:43 Yup. go, plowsof go :) 16:20:06 all hail plowsof 16:20:14 controller of the monero printers 16:20:30 please bless us with another season of quantitative easing 16:20:38 especially me 16:21:14 <3 16:46:06 plowsof: some cleanup was done in the CCS but the paper wallet proposal is still there 16:46:15 I thought that was being closed 16:46:50 fixed 16:47:03 thx 16:48:10 thanks, yep, Panda said he would contribute more / show what he's capable of to me privately 16:49:01 "I would like a poll as to..." <- tainted coin 16:51:51 thx for your input 17:36:11 Stupid question: what’s a good wallet for iOS that isn’t cake wallet? 17:37:09 id stack wallet on ios yet? 17:37:17 s/id/is 17:37:27 theres a new one that may have some bugs https://stackwallet.com/ yep 17:38:07 android works fine, maybe some display issues such as wrong estimated fees 17:38:57 just make sure you set the tx speed from the default of normal to slow 17:39:23 plowsof11: Downloading 17:39:59 With MyMonero, you just need to set it to your own node? Or it still phones home your view key or key images? 17:42:45 its not like mymonero no 17:43:24 I know ofrnxmr knows… 17:43:36 with mymonero you can set a custom url to a server with a http scanner server like github.com/vtnerd/monero-lws 17:43:58 idk if it phones homeotherwise sorry 17:52:23 Alright; different question. When you run your own private node, is there a way to speed up scanning? 17:54:29 LWS 17:54:42 Light wallet server 18:00:43 Interesting. I thought some of those monerod modes would help with scanning 18:21:16 does anyone have a tutorial on connecting a domain name + opening up a monero node to the public? My node connects within my local wifi but not outside of it. 19:17:58 Fishy: 19:17:58 Opening the node to the public: You need to configure port forwarding. 19:17:58 For connecting a domain name: Create/Edit your domain's A record with the value of your public IP address. 19:17:58 I do not have a complete tutorial for both of these, but there are plenty of resources for each if you look up 'monero port forwarding,' or 'domain a record' 23:42:08 "unfounded accusations of this..." <- The threatening or the Lil girls? 23:43:59 > <@spackle_xmr:matrix.org> Fishy:... (full message at ) 23:44:07 * I've done both of those things, I followed a post here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jmbsu1/how\_do\_i\_find\_and\_connect\_to\_my\_full\_node\_from\_my/ 23:44:07 > –rpc-bind-ip here your ip, if you put your LOCAL IP, you will able to connect only from your local network, if you put your PUBLIC IP so you can connect from outside. 23:44:07 When I put my public IP in, it says "Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required)" 23:44:20 * I've done both of those things, I followed a post here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jmbsu1/how\_do\_i\_find\_and\_connect\_to\_my\_full\_node\_from\_my/ 23:44:20 > –rpc-bind-ip here your ip, if you put your LOCAL IP, you will able to connect only from your local network, if you put your PUBLIC IP so you can connect from outside. 23:44:20 When I put my public IP in, it says "Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required) 23:45:04 I run 3 other services off of the same box and I've had no problem with port forwarding + connecting those to domain 23:45:20 theyve made it as confusing as possible 23:45:31 πŸ™ apologies. Wrong place for the girl talk. 23:45:31 I stand on the threats. That was said in this group to me, and supposedly about me 23:45:33 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: 23:48:13 --rpc-bind-ip 0.0.0.0 right Fishy? 23:49:21 Alternatively --rpc-restricted-bind-ip=0.0.0.0 23:52:26 You'll also need... (full message at ) 23:52:58 this is what I've been using 23:52:58 --rpc-bind-ip 0.0.0.0 --confirm-external-bind --no-zmq --rpc-ssl enabled --rpc-login user:pass --restricted-rpc 23:53:17 ok so ill recommend --rpc-restriected-bind-port , i forget 23:53:18 instead of 0.0.0.0 I tried my local and public IP 23:53:48 * instead of 0.0.0. have been using my local + public IP 23:54:11 > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> You'll also need... (full message at ) 23:54:29 Run it with --log-level 2 or higher 23:55:13 If you use the --rpc-restricted* flags, yeah, forward 18089 instead of 18081