01:48:16 <cryptogrampy[m]> <Mason[m]> "Okay. I don't really care..." <- there's a gui xmr mining app for android: https://github.com/XMRig-for-Android/xmrig-for-android
01:49:07 <cryptogrampy[m]> as for xmr-pocket-node, I discovered a fairly old/archived project on github, and I brought it back from the dead and added a little bit of style to it.  Would be great if a real Android dev could take it under their wing.  
01:54:52 <cryptogrampy[m]> Would be amazing to see a nice background service get added and have the app updated to the latest Android api/released to FDroid.  Would probably be the easiest node to use in the whole ecosystem
02:19:30 <cryptogrampy[m]> https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zflxon/paging_android_devs_xmr_pocketnode/
02:30:07 <plowsof11> +35 xmr donation to the general fund today wow
05:30:59 <plowsof11> monero - seedsigner is progressing nicely. milestone 1 of research/testing appears complete and they've just started a fork of the SeedSigner repo here , ill be keeping an eye on further developments https://github.com/Monero-HackerIndustrial/MoneroSigner
06:05:19 <ajs_[m]> twitter poll - which video hosting platform should we use for monerokon https://twitter.com/MoneroKon/status/1600731671896412161?s=20&t=aZXSyshw_UzEAA2LkHA8WA
06:25:38 <monerobull[m]> Chat is better on twitch, everything else YouTube wins
06:30:11 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] MaersRandy opened issue #52: essayservice
06:30:11 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues/52
12:45:11 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] CarlosStewart1 opened issue #53: Professional dissertation writers
12:45:11 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues/53
16:13:44 <plowsof11> hyc mining Monero in his car https://nitter.it/hyc_symas/status/1600857111793057792 :D
16:14:51 <RavFX[m]> any extra hashrate from hardware you own is bonus !
16:38:10 <sech1> this needs to go viral
16:38:46 <sech1> like people run Doom on everything, we should run Monero mining on everything
16:52:58 <monerobull[m]> BasicSwap released 
17:23:33 <monerobull[m]> BasicSwapDex.com
17:24:11 <monerobull[m]> id say you need to be somewhat familiar with command lines to get it running
17:24:27 <monerobull[m]> so if you arent, youll have to wait for binaries 
17:24:53 <monerobull[m]> also takes a whole lot of storage since you need multiple nodes
17:42:31 <ajs_[m]> It is a "real" atomic swap or some wrapped token type thing?
18:00:16 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 149: December 1 - 8, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-149.html
18:59:57 <monerobull[m]> <ajs_[m]> "It is a "real" atomic swap or..." <- Real atomic swaps
19:00:55 <monerobull[m]> That's why I'm excited. First dex with real xmr i believe 
19:56:35 <RavFX[m]> i'm installing it right now
20:09:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> For someone who doesnt like atomic swaps, this looks like a true Dex......
20:37:11 <Siren[m]> found out why there aren't many open source crypto atm projects
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20:37:48 <Siren[m]> none of these companies that provide bill acceptors sell to hobbyists or companies outside casinos etc
20:38:22 <Siren[m]> ridiculous
20:44:24 <ajs_[m]> Siren: did you check alibaba? You could probably order an acceptor from China
20:45:47 <Siren[m]> yes and they mostly have these bill acceptors called L70
20:46:07 <Siren[m]> the downside is that they can only accepts 5-10-20 euro bills and nothing else :(
20:48:33 <Siren[m]> s/accepts/accept/
20:58:46 <Siren[m]> <Siren[m]> "yes and they mostly have these..." <- double checked again, they have nothing else
21:03:47 <plowsof11> 5-20 is fine . 
21:04:12 <plowsof11> Would be be a great project
21:05:02 <Siren[m]> Aaaa it was 5 and 10 only
21:05:07 <Siren[m]> Not even 20
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21:05:41 <Siren[m]> http://www.ictgroup.com.tw/pro_cen.php?prod_id=117
21:05:46 <Stnby[m]> 50 has to be the minimum
21:06:24 <Stnby[m]> XBA seems to support, but yet again they do not sell to hobbyists
21:06:43 <Stnby[m]> We found something on Ebay from Ukraine that might work
21:06:53 <Stnby[m]> Hopefully not a scam
21:07:02 <Siren[m]> Stnby[m]: Shame on them
21:07:14 <Siren[m]> This is security via obscurity 
21:07:39 <Stnby[m]> Unquire to get a quote. Aka. Piss off if you dont want 1000 if these m
21:07:47 <Stnby[m]> s/m/things./
21:07:53 <Stnby[m]> s/Unquire/Inquire/, s/m/things./
21:08:03 <Stnby[m]> s/Unquire/Inquire/, s/if/of/, s/m/things./
21:08:11 <plowsof11> For your own security, 5-10's is better than handling a box with thousands in , its perfect for a presentation 
21:08:34 <Stnby[m]> No one has 5 or 10 bills, being honest
21:08:42 <Stnby[m]> Its moatly 50
21:08:46 <Stnby[m]> 20 and 50
21:09:04 <plowsof11> Take the 20 and buy a beer 
21:09:05 <Stnby[m]> Those are must to support othervise its a waste of a project
21:09:45 <Stnby[m]> And our glorius European union changes bills every 5 years or so
21:09:55 <Stnby[m]> Next change is on 2024
21:10:04 <Stnby[m]> They just want you to suffer
21:10:27 <Stnby[m]> Euro aint fungible
21:10:39 <Stnby[m]> Old 50 eur is worth more than new 50 eur
21:11:06 <Stnby[m]> Because old hardware does not support new bills, but the other way around works
21:11:34 <Stnby[m]> Means you can spend one bill in less places than another bill
21:11:47 <Stnby[m]> Win for Monero XD
21:12:08 <Siren[m]> I mean we can take 5-10 euro and also coins but 
21:12:28 <Siren[m]> It's gonna be painful buying a lot of monero
21:12:55 <Stnby[m]> Will try the dodgy Ebay seller lol
21:13:39 <Stnby[m]> Otgervise you have to steal that hardware from ATMs, self checkout etc XD
21:14:23 <Siren[m]> Currency system that we cannot use
21:14:27 <Siren[m]> Euro is stone age
21:27:17 <RavFX[m]> trying that basicswap thing.
21:27:17 <RavFX[m]> It seam to only support XMR on the receiving end (Say, exchanging bitcorn for xmr).
21:31:13 <Rucknium[m]> There is no operational atomic swap going the other way AFAIK
21:32:31 <RavFX[m]> use to be like that for unstoppable too yeah. I did not know if that limitation was listed yet but answer prob no
22:51:55 <monerobull[m]> i just completed my first ever atomic swap :)
22:53:04 <monerobull[m]> <RavFX[m]> "use to be like that for unstoppa..." <- they are apparently working on fixing that
22:53:33 <monerobull[m]> it is this way because monero can't be the first mover in an atomic swap because of something special about it
23:13:12 <plowsof11> monerobull what happened to all those javascript atomic swaps we did together.. i thought we shared our first atomic swap moment together!!! 😭 it meant nothing??
23:14:17 <monerobull[m]> They only worked in a parallel universe where xmr stagenet is mainnet
23:14:46 <monerobull[m]> No wait, that's wrong 
23:15:05 <monerobull[m]> They would maybe have worked if the guy updated his freaking node 
23:15:50 <monerobull[m]> Imagine building atomic swaps in secret without funding and then not realizing there has been a whole ass hardfork on one of the two chains you've been working with
23:16:45 <monerobull[m]> I hope the man comes back. I actually enjoyed playing with the software eventhough the rates shown were absolutely braindead and the swaps didn't even work
23:19:06 <bananagirl[m]> lets just hope that basicswap brings more volume and works better than the other atomic swap project that only had like 4 swap partners
23:19:36 <bananagirl[m]> * swap partners and high slippage
23:20:18 <RavFX[m]> Hope.
23:20:18 <RavFX[m]> We did have the ultimate platform in the a while back and it kinda died out of no one using it.
23:20:18 <RavFX[m]> Blocknet+BlockDX
23:20:31 <RavFX[m]> hope the CEX continue to scam and everything get over regulated by admin overlord, that way it will force people to XMR and DEX
23:23:42 <bananagirl[m]> > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Hope.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/ec7836b2a9b4faa67a234b7c29ce784b8752ac0b>)
23:24:14 <RavFX[m]> bisk fork work in beta. Cake people took over the project
23:25:00 <RavFX[m]> Haveno work good enough it could probably be released on mainnet tomorrow
23:26:30 <bananagirl[m]> ohh, cake seems to be taking over everything lol idk how to feel about that, but it is awesome that we have a big party taking initiative 
23:53:41 <DanIsnotthemanBr> centralized OO
23:58:08 <kowalabearhugs-[> I'm unsure their involvement with and creation of products for the ecosystem should be considered a takeover. There are arguably(?) more independent projects related to Monero as there was before their arrival. Core is still independent, CCS remains the primary dev funding mechanism. The ecosystem is growing.
23:59:34 <kowalabearhugs-[> A user can interact with the Monero ecosystem and never touch a Cake product or something funded exclusively by Cake