00:09:22 <RavFX[m]> The IRS got a hell of a lot more agent this year :D
00:34:15 <IRS> yes
00:42:01 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (83KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/RlyJQKJOjoUwEumgmJPLZoSR/20220521_220531.jpg >
00:42:38 <Siren[m]> Was the caption below really necessary :D
00:46:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Lol
00:46:14 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Disclaimer
00:59:31 <cryptogrampy[m]> <vikCake[m]> "how do i point my Cake to a node..." <- You can absolutely do this at home in your local network
01:00:30 <cryptogrampy[m]> I'd personally really like to see a simple expose-over-tor feature added to GUI.  Turn it on, scan a QR to connect from a remote wallet
01:00:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> You mean a HS?
01:01:08 <cryptogrampy[m]> Better than newbs opening router ports
01:01:17 <cryptogrampy[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: hammer and sickle ?
01:01:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hidden service 
01:01:29 <cryptogrampy[m]> yes
01:01:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> GUI would have to ship tor and edit tor configs 
01:02:16 <cryptogrampy[m]> Yeah that would probably be bad
01:02:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or* edit
01:02:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> For termux node, I use a separate instance of tor running on 9055 instead of 9050
01:02:55 <cryptogrampy[m]> But newbs need simple ways to run Monero.  If govs are clamping down, then you have to do what you have to do
01:03:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> But I can only get away with that because its tor from termux.. if the user is already using tor in termux = conflicts
01:04:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> And if gui users dont keep gui open, its obvious when they start and stop tor
01:06:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> But Yeah.. its possible to write a script to setup monero with a hs and a proper config.. At least for Linux..
01:07:50 <plowsof11> dont we have to fix the whole 'hide monero traffic' thing first 
01:07:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/nahuhh/android-termux-monero-node/blob/9513c8bbdc07431327fa8d5ceaf407c17dd0107c/src/install-monerod-in-termux.sh#L186
01:07:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> 186-277
01:08:14 <cryptogrampy[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I'm not worried about anyone that can run a script
01:08:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof: not really possible without anon networks 
01:08:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> cryptogrampy:  im just saying its only a couple lines of code 
01:09:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> But its not "safe" for users to bypass firewalls and routers and tunnel directly into their machine, running tor services 
01:09:52 <plowsof11> even with anon networks, i remember something about standard monero ports revealing what you're doing (and other things)
01:10:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Without nodes having sign ssl certs they can ve MITM and all the data read in transit 
01:10:26 <plowsof11> was using 443 suggested? memory vague, but there was a problem there we've not fixed (but bitcoin has)
01:10:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> With tor exit nodes = same thing 
01:10:52 <plowsof11> jeffro256 knows more about it 
01:10:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Going over anon hidden services / I2p directly is too slow though
01:11:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof: convo was in dev with oo Jeffro etc. I read it the other day :p
01:12:20 <plowsof11> also something about us not having username/password for rpc over tor? 
01:12:43 <plowsof11> rather user/pass for proxy**
01:12:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> The port talk is about the fact that, like torrents back in 2001, its known what ports we use 
01:12:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Torrent programs usually use random ports now because most isp block default tor ports.
01:13:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> If ips decided to block 18080, they could block monero traffic easily. They can also do packet analysis and block any ports service monero get_info stuff (all rpc ports)
01:13:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ido's*
01:14:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> -_- autocorrect
01:14:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Isp's
01:15:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://matrix.to/#/!LmpzSzbSMKFmPbCpHe:monero.social/$ymsTeK4azIJI0AagFNzAXhgH0fo9is_Y7xOAAe14ycY?via=monero.social&via=libera.chat&via=matrix.org
01:15:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Context
01:16:41 <plowsof11> so we dont need to worry about windows defender blocking tor in the gui - have to solve the real problems first
01:16:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://matrix.to/#/!LmpzSzbSMKFmPbCpHe:monero.social/$jg2dKPz5CSYdUXLRMwr5UZkkEmBAXXXM7vgTMFlrYHw?via=monero.social&via=libera.chat&via=matrix.org
01:17:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Real problem = windows 
01:18:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> "funny that no one reviewed patch for p2p connection, but everyone wants to add E2E encryption for p2p" 😆😆😆
01:31:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Remenver the era where virus protectors actually made your computer slow 
01:31:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Perhaps its still a thing today. I dont use windows, so I wouldnt know)
02:30:38 <chesterfield[m]> i remember the era when antivirus software sideloaded their own pre-approved mining software
02:58:00 <chesterfield[m]> https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/7/22869528/norton-crypto-miner-security-software-reaction
03:07:00 <RavFX[m]> ofrnxmr: If you use Windows, you just have to use the one that come with Windows. It's that good now.
03:07:00 <RavFX[m]> And we are past "max bloatability" now. Meaning that no, you don't fell the slowdown, assuming you don't own one of theses shit cpu.
03:08:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> So Tldr, windows = malware AND spyware 
13:59:06 <nioc> 36.86% funded, what are you waiting for?
13:59:09 <nioc> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/monerokon-2023-ccs-1.html
17:43:32 <nioc> <ajs_[m]> Like, Retweet pls, thx https://twitter.com/Paralelni_polis/status/1603441934835630082?t=vWJ958U42_RkLvdNjkg6uw&s=19
17:45:11 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] xmrLovera opened pull request #366: Create Educational Content in Spanish
17:45:11 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/366
18:48:34 <Jabster28[m]> hey, does anyone know if any work has been put into integrating NFC into point of service machines? i'm planning on making a monero card thing and i wanna know what i'd have to work around 
18:50:38 <Jabster28[m]> my general idea is:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/052e87d8043580ffa98b4f98c003ef2d3cf0f35c>)
18:53:10 <Rucknium[m]> Jabster28: It's not easy. The idea has been discussed in #monero-research-lounge:monero.social . Best to go there.
18:56:11 <avewoes[m]> Best place to sell things for xmr?
18:56:18 <Jabster28[m]> Rucknium[m]: thanks, i'll try my best 😬
19:33:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> The card would have to be a wallet to be spendable without giving your spend keys to the merchant 
19:33:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> #monero-space:monero.social iirc convo about it yesterdayvthere 
19:44:56 <needmoney90> Anyone have experience with reddit API bots?
19:50:03 <plowsof11> Python? Praw? I can 'post a reddit thresd' 
19:53:04 <needmoney90> Specifically something that can scan post history and determine whether a user is posting for the first time
19:53:30 <needmoney90> Or, has detectable history that isn't removed 
20:03:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> <avewoes[m]> "Best place to sell things for..." <- Anywhere 
20:03:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anytime I list anything, I offer discounts if paying in xmr
20:08:33 <plowsof11> needmoney90: so thats SubredditStream and then.. i dont know, ill play around with it later 
22:09:19 <Inge> ArticMine[m]: Perhaps your algo will get a real-life testcase soon https://twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1603504938771877888
22:39:48 <CidadodoMonerist> <Inge> "articmine: Perhaps your algo..." <- What if it bloats the blockchain
22:42:08 <selsta> also posting it here, he got funded to work on a twitter alternative that jack seems to be using https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr
23:14:28 <ArticMine> 1400 XMR if I understand correctly. 
23:16:27 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 150: December 8 - 15, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-150.html
23:21:39 <ArticMine> I will rum some figures
23:24:47 <sech1> no, it's 14 BTC
23:28:18 <ArticMine> So around 1650 XMR
23:30:40 <hardenedsteel[m]> https://nitter.nl/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1603504938771877888
23:31:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> You're like 10 posts late :p
23:31:31 <hardenedsteel[m]> yes i just noticed.
23:33:08 <Inge> Even if the btc funding is for a "better twitter", that doesn't mean he isn't also going to try some attacks against monero.
23:38:45 <ArticMine> So the 1650 XMR is the total funding
23:39:19 <ArticMine> or worst case scenario?
23:41:28 <hardenedsteel[m]> how do we know the amount?
23:47:45 <Inge> I think the funding is for a twitter clone, not for an attack on XMR, but he has ALSO espoused the view that attacking Monero and Eth is a good thing and talking about bloating the blockchain and making it difficult to use or worse
23:49:50 <theking[m]1> Why pay that much when Mastodon is free XD
23:50:56 <ArticMine> <Inge> I think the funding is for a twitter clone, not for an attack on XMR, but he has ALSO espoused the view that attacking Monero and Eth is a good thing and talking about bloating the blockchain and making it difficult to use or worse <---- Still it is an interesting scenarion for me to look at