00:17:33 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Or
00:17:33 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr
09:05:04 <andrea[m]1> https://jls.scholasticahq.com/article/57657-privacy-as-invisibility-by-default-bridging-the-gap-between-anarcho-capitalists-and-cypherpunks
09:05:05 <andrea[m]1> Hello Monero community, andrea here. I just want to share with you my paper _Privacy as invisibility (by default). Bridging the gap between anarcho-capitalists and cypherpunks_, which discusses, among other things, Monero. 
09:05:05 <andrea[m]1> Yesterday, it was published in the _Journal of Libertarian Studies_, founded by Murray Rothbard. I presented an early version of the paper at MoneroKon in Lisbon this year. Enjoy!!
09:16:27 <ajs_[m]> congratulations andrea   
09:17:26 <ajs_[m]> your talk still needs to be worked on. will try to get to it when i get some free time
09:24:38 <andrea[m]1> Thank you ajs_ @ajs_:matrix.org: 
09:27:30 <ajs_[m]> i hope you are able to come to monerokon 2023. i really enjoyed your talk
10:28:33 <LebAnon[m]> hey bros
10:28:33 <LebAnon[m]> can you give me any feedback or suggestions on my CCS?
10:28:36 <LebAnon[m]> * my CCS proposal?
10:28:39 <LebAnon[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/367
10:30:11 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] nightwolf361 opened pull request #367: Empower Lebanon(and similar hyperinflated countries) to use Monero ins...
10:30:11 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/367
11:15:33 <Siren[m]> <LebAnon[m]> "https://repo.getmonero.org/..." <- What is this webapp that you want to make?
11:30:11 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] lindamarine opened issue #57: Why the website repeatedly getting hit with google panalities?
11:30:11 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues/57
12:06:04 <LebAnon[m]> Siren: A bartering platform where people can have an eBay for services and goods for XMR
12:06:04 <LebAnon[m]> since most hyperinflated countries here need a SUSTAINABLE alternative and not a lot of arabic content for crypto let alone XMR
12:06:04 <LebAnon[m]> Im adding educational content on the crisis, how banks screwed everyone over to shed some light and educational material on finance in general
12:06:10 <LebAnon[m]> my main reach is to have people USING XMR
12:06:11 <LebAnon[m]> no need to understand the tech to use it 
12:07:49 <Siren[m]> > <@4chanbro:matrix.org> Siren: A bartering platform where people can have an eBay for services and goods for XMR
12:07:49 <Siren[m]> > since most hyperinflated countries here need a SUSTAINABLE alternative and not a lot of arabic content for crypto let alone XMR
12:07:49 <Siren[m]> > Im adding educational content on the crisis, how banks screwed everyone over to shed some light and educational material on finance in general
12:07:49 <Siren[m]> Maybe you could contribute to bitejo.com or other marketplaces to add Arabic language?
12:08:32 <LebAnon[m]> I can work on translation for sure
12:08:32 <LebAnon[m]> want to work on translation XMR docs to arabic and french as well(im natively flluent in both)
12:08:35 <LebAnon[m]> but the platform isnt just a marketplace
12:08:36 <LebAnon[m]> its spreading awareness
12:08:36 <LebAnon[m]> because the crisis in the area isnt talked about much and its devastating 
12:08:40 <Siren[m]> It would be nice to have getmonero.org promotional videos etc. in arabic
12:08:52 <LebAnon[m]> plus having 3rd worlders use Monero
12:08:52 <LebAnon[m]> is honestly bullish for adoption
12:09:08 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: I'll get working on this definitely 
12:10:20 <Siren[m]> Coding up a marketplace requires some effort
12:12:32 <Siren[m]> Have you made something similar before? Or will you be deploying something premade?
12:12:33 <LebAnon[m]> im a dev by profession
12:12:33 <LebAnon[m]> its why im asking for such an amount where I can sustain myself here(Lebanon) and work on this full time
12:13:19 <LebAnon[m]> ofc not premade
12:13:19 <LebAnon[m]> i have the UI milestone
12:13:19 <LebAnon[m]> its going to be unique and actually aimed at 3rd worlders since tech knowledge isnt much here let alone crypto(because of FUD etc..)
12:14:00 <Siren[m]> Interesting because in Turkey even grandmas are staking on Binance
12:14:15 <LebAnon[m]> damn
12:14:21 <LebAnon[m]> this is bullish
12:14:21 <LebAnon[m]> though trusting Binance kek
12:14:21 <LebAnon[m]> idk 
12:14:21 <LebAnon[m]> i wouldnt trust CEXs
12:14:41 <LebAnon[m]> turkey is more literate than here as hard as it is to believe
12:14:42 <LebAnon[m]> our issue is banking restrictions as well
12:15:04 <LebAnon[m]> most of  crypto even in turkey afaik is bought peer to peer
12:15:04 <LebAnon[m]> like barterting( cash for XMR, USDT whatever)
12:15:50 <Siren[m]> I paid USDT for haircut before
12:15:51 <Siren[m]> :D
12:16:25 <LebAnon[m]> yes exactly
12:16:25 <LebAnon[m]> thought i persinally dont advocate stablecoins
12:16:25 <Siren[m]> > <@4chanbro:matrix.org> ofc not premade
12:16:25 <Siren[m]> > i have the UI milestone
12:16:25 <Siren[m]> > its going to be unique and actually aimed at 3rd worlders since tech knowledge isnt much here let alone crypto(because of FUD etc..)
12:16:25 <Siren[m]> Can we see some of your previous work?
12:17:02 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: im not saying you cant im saying we need to advocate for more usecases
12:17:05 <LebAnon[m]> are you in turkey?
12:17:22 <Siren[m]> No but was in summer
12:18:33 <Siren[m]> Maybe you should change the proposal to focus more on the marketplace
12:19:04 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: I can link websites I made
12:19:04 <LebAnon[m]> but dont really want to doxx myself rn
12:19:05 <Siren[m]> Because it's the biggest thing in the proposal
12:19:10 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: the focus isnt the marketplace
12:19:10 <LebAnon[m]> my end goal is having more education and building a bigger community than just telegram groups
12:19:27 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: cost or time wise?
12:19:48 <Siren[m]> Well if you made a fully functional marketplace, you wouldn't only have it in arabic language would you?
12:19:51 <Siren[m]> LebAnon[m]: Both
12:20:11 <Siren[m]> Translating content is one thing, programming a marketplace is another
12:20:26 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: ofc not
12:20:26 <LebAnon[m]> but i want to focus on the arab world first
12:20:38 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: i have friends who can work on me with the translation
12:20:38 <LebAnon[m]> and im native in english arabic and french so its not an issue
12:21:08 <LebAnon[m]> Siren[m]: im creating content to maintain it
12:21:09 <LebAnon[m]> spread financial education on how xmr is a sustainable fiat alternative
12:21:33 <Siren[m]> > <@4chanbro:matrix.org> I can link websites I made
12:21:33 <Siren[m]> > but dont really want to doxx myself rn
12:21:33 <Siren[m]> What did you use to make them? (Backend/frontend)
12:21:40 <LebAnon[m]> MERN 
12:21:41 <LebAnon[m]> and i worked on web3(solidity mainly) 
12:22:18 <LebAnon[m]> I could add another month and some funds if need be
12:22:18 <LebAnon[m]> but a month or so would have a basic platform up to speed then I could just add a donation address to sustain int
12:22:19 <LebAnon[m]> s/int/it/
12:22:38 <Siren[m]> Sounds good but I think people will want to see a demo
12:22:53 <LebAnon[m]> you mean post a UI/UX?
12:23:18 <LebAnon[m]> when I get approved sure
12:23:18 <LebAnon[m]> i'll post a figma if thats what you mean right?
12:23:52 <Siren[m]> I don't know, there's a community meeting tomorrow
12:24:35 <Siren[m]> This can happen when someone can't show previous work for reasons
12:25:28 <LebAnon[m]> what can happen?
12:25:44 <LebAnon[m]> im confused :p
12:25:44 <Siren[m]> People can ask for a demo
12:25:53 <Siren[m]> And not only frontend
12:26:21 <LebAnon[m]> oh
12:26:22 <LebAnon[m]> I'll link work then sure
14:50:12 <alpharabius[m]> <Siren[m]> "Interesting because in Turkey..." <- Average turkish shenanigans
15:03:43 <alpharabius[m]> I'm back yall
15:13:08 <Siren[m]> <alpharabius[m]> "Average turkish shenanigans" <- after the lira crash there were CEX ads on TV
15:14:19 <Siren[m]> it's fascinating to go somewhere and see middle aged people day trade together and watch price prediction videos
15:14:40 <Siren[m]> I never thought I'd see something like this ever it's so surreal
15:17:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> <alpharabius[m]> "I'm back yall" <- Not a good look
16:15:11 -xmr-pr- [meta] rbrunner7 opened issue #770: Seraphis wallet workgroup meeting #6 - Monday, 2022-12-19, 18:00 UTC
16:15:11 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/770
16:20:49 <blankpage[m]> LebAnon:  several "marketplace" projects have been produced but I think none have reached critical mass. Personally, I think your effort would be better spent on improving/translating what already exists. One very high quality project is looking for help:
16:20:50 <blankpage[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/comments/z2o0ej/looking_for_a_team_to_take_over_bitejo_monero/
17:42:51 <BusyBoredom[m]> Is sethforprivacy on here? His website seems to be down and I wanna give him a ping to make sure he knows. https://sethforprivacy.com. 
17:43:15 <selsta> BusyBoredom[m]: I think he is moving host
17:45:02 <BusyBoredom[m]> Ah alright, cool.
18:36:33 <alpharabius[m]> XMR chessboxing
18:36:34 <alpharabius[m]> > <@blankpage:monero.social> LebAnon:  several "marketplace" projects have been produced but I think none have reached critical mass. Personally, I think your effort would be better spent on improving/translating what already exists. One very high quality project is looking for help:
18:36:34 <alpharabius[m]> > 
18:36:34 <alpharabius[m]> > https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/comments/z2o0ej/looking_for_a_team_to_take_over_bitejo_monero/
18:36:34 <alpharabius[m]> I use bitejo
19:42:28 <alpharabius[m]> My xmr node is at 83% sync
19:42:47 <alpharabius[m]> What can i do
19:43:28 <plowsof11> wait (the last 20% is usually the longest) 
20:35:19 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://www.reddit.com/r/cakewallet/comments/znmsl8/updates_cake_wallet_454_and_monerocom_123_bugfixes/
20:37:08 <DanIsnotthemanBr> ofrnxmr: 
20:38:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> I knew 😝
21:08:41 <DanIsnotthemanBr> molly server coming soon? price gone up