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01:08:28 <MrWhiskey00[m]> wow very nice, where will it be ?
01:21:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bottom left of image
01:24:25 <nioc> somehow the address got lost 
01:24:35 <nioc> what else gets lost?
01:26:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> I thought 475/43 was some sort of address
01:26:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🐒 (ill guess i'll be arriving late)
02:19:03 <chesterfield[m]> Wow this poster made me buy a plane ticket to monerokon
03:11:42 <chesterfield[m]> I wasn’t planning on attending but now I am
03:16:40 <nioc> hate to break it to you
03:16:52 <nioc> she is not going to be there 
03:44:09 <chesterfield[m]> My wife is monerochan
03:44:09 <ajs_[m]> twisted_turtle:  I got some push back yesterday by a few people about using monerochan imagery for monerokon. They felt it is unprofessional and doesn't go with the desired tone of the conference
03:44:09 <chesterfield[m]> > pulls monerochan body pillow from briefcase
03:47:56 <ajs_[m]> Also something about neckbeards being embarrassed by  bosses thinking they are going to an anime cosplay convention instead of a real academic conference
04:45:47 <twisted_turtle[m> I'll do an extra classy Monerochan in a Greco-Romanesque style for them.
04:48:54 <lza_menace[m]1> monerochan in business attire
05:00:51 <evalda[m]> Now I know what to wear for monerocon 💃
05:22:29 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Morp suit so you can’t be seen
05:30:46 <plowsof11> i thought it was going to be a cosplay event, but now, i'll just be a neckbeard with no excuse 
06:05:52 <Siren[m]> Smh you're calling people who didn't want the coomer advertising neckbeards
06:07:49 <Siren[m]> No a neckbeard works the other way around
06:14:23 <plowsof11> i was just making a self deprecating joke lol 
06:14:57 <Siren[m]> Not you
06:15:04 <Siren[m]> <ajs_[m]> "Also something about neckbeards..." <- This
06:15:37 <plowsof11> ohhhh i see
06:19:58 <Siren[m]> I showed the website to 2 unicorns
06:20:08 <Siren[m]> They called it a scam and made fun of the imagery 
06:21:40 <plowsof11> the new draft solves that i think 
06:21:47 <Siren[m]> Too late
06:22:53 <Siren[m]> Just yesterday they were shitting on monerokon again
06:23:10 <Siren[m]> It became a meme 
06:23:55 <plowsof11> what is a unicorn 
06:24:36 <Siren[m]> A company that was valued 1b $
06:25:26 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: Corporate overlords were especially triggered because localmonero sponsored an anti ad about them lol
06:25:49 <plowsof11> there are plenty of content/videos from older monerokons to show what 'actually' happens there at least - any memeing is just #jealousy!
06:26:25 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: But I showed them monerokon way before this
06:26:33 <Siren[m]> This was just rubbing salt on the wound
06:26:35 <Siren[m]> XD
06:35:31 <ajs_[m]> well, you know what they say.. they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win
06:37:35 <ajs_[m]> we have a budget to hire a professional graphics designer, hopefully we can get proper monerokon branding after next weeks planning meeting
10:19:58 <acidic66[m]> Hello guys
10:21:26 <acidic66[m]> How are you doing?
10:22:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wonderful
10:22:08 <acidic66[m]> How many days have I been thinking about this? Despite my efforts to ask questions, ledger team do not respond at all. Ledger team are very uninterested. I want to pour fluoroantimonic acid on the Ledger employees's faces. I'm so angry. 😡
10:23:22 <acidic66[m]> I wrote to Ledger company many times but they did not reply. I wrote to Ledger company from every social media and they did not respond. I want to pour fluoroantimonic acid on the faces of every single one of the Ledger crew.
10:24:09 <sech1> Sir?
10:24:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> #monero-offtopic:monero.social  wecwent through thus yesterday
10:24:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sech1 yes
10:24:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sgp's wife is better and less violent
10:25:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> I suggest you go that route. Acid = jail
10:25:21 <acidic66[m]> I will pour fluoriantomonic asid on the ledger employes's faces. 😡
10:26:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> ♥️
10:26:08 <acidic66[m]> I will go to the france paris ledger office.
10:26:44 <evalda[m]> After ledger leak happened how anyone can take them seriously
10:27:06 <evalda[m]> People got physically targeted because of it
10:27:12 <evalda[m]> Fuck them
10:27:39 <evalda[m]> Pen and paper are your best friends tbh
10:27:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Very good question. acidic66:  do you mind if I step out?, evalda might be able to help with the seed
10:28:22 <acidic66[m]> I am very angry that they did not answer.  They haven't answered my question for weeks.  I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the ledger team
10:29:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> They probably dont understand the question answer 
10:29:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> * They probably dont understand the question 
10:30:40 <acidic66[m]> Ledger has to answer me.  Otherwise, I will go to the paris ledger office in france and pour fluoriantomonic in the faces of the ledger employees.
10:32:52 <acidic66[m]> I've been trying for 3 weeks but they are not responding.
10:34:48 <acidic66[m]> I can make the Ledger crew drink the polonium I've added to the water.
10:37:02 <acidic66[m]> I can buy plane tickets.  I can go to paris ledger office in 1 week.
10:38:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> :( 3 weeks. Im sorry you had to go through thst
10:38:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Question: what happened to your previous account? 
10:38:39 <acidic66[m]> I'm really pissed off at the ledger team.  Nicolas Bacca cannot manage his employees.
10:38:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: ....? Sir? Do you understand my question? 
10:39:23 <acidic66[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I completely deleted the previous account.
10:39:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> Why? You know better
10:40:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof:  instakick please 
10:40:23 <acidic66[m]> Since France is an EU country, I get a small prison sentence.  The EU is not like the USA.
10:40:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im from Mongolia...
10:41:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Now from -dev etc before he spams
10:42:31 <plowsof11> thanks, i need to figure out the banhammer thing
10:42:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> <sgp[m]> "!bh bannow markovich..." <- Try this
10:43:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Oh wait
10:43:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lets try in private 😆
10:56:12 <marksist0[m]> Ofrnxmr do you know my question?
10:56:14 <marksist0[m]> After resetting and restoring the ledger device, because I converted from 24 to 25 on ledger device, will the ledger device ask me for 25 words in the monero app inside the ledger device or never ask 25 words?
10:56:22 <marksist0[m]> Will the ledger device ask me for 25 words in the monero app inside the ledger device or never ask 25 words?
10:56:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yes
10:56:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or wait. Let me read it again
10:57:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Give me a second. Im on the toilet right now
10:57:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Idiot actually waited 
10:57:42 <plowsof11> lol
11:03:34 <carlae88[m]> what is the programming language of monero ?
11:04:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> C++ mostly
11:04:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> For daemon / node
11:07:25 <plowsof11> if this was quake2 days, i'd have "bind f say this is not about a bad trade" "bind g after resetting and restoring the led..." and i'd spam them every time i was killed or just running around 
11:07:27 <plowsof11> regex would only entertain him to avoid it, we just ave to stay vigilant xx
11:23:46 <evalda[m]> I have a Tresor myself and use it for some small amounts... Yet I don't really get the appeal of hardware wallets... Pen and paper still beat them for any significant $$$
12:01:55 <GF[m]> Sorry if this has been answered already but what is this groups impression of all purpose wallets?  Edge? Coinomi?  Any preference?
12:04:13 <evalda[m]> For me personally the main question is if I trust the devs
12:04:51 <evalda[m]> I trust Monero so I use the default wallet for XMR
12:12:01 <GF[m]> <evalda[m]> "I trust Monero so I use the..." <- Most definitely, I keep XMR as my main asset, but there are other things going on expecially with ETH.  From what I can tell, Coinomi and Edge seem the most secure/private with Coinomi being one of the larger wallets.  Trust Wallet is enormous but doesn't have native chain XMR support and sends debug info back... just looking for something that can be a one stop shop...i think XMR is the
12:12:01 <GF[m]> best money on the planet but I don't need the psycho levels of privacy
12:14:25 <evalda[m]> Cool, I'd like to hear myself what wallets other people trust/use
13:10:08 <drbunsen[m]> Hey all, I wanted to run a docker with a monero node to not have multiple devices download the blockchain, but there I couldn't find a docker image on docker hub? Not a recent / official one.
13:15:12 <monerobull[m]1> I got a good one
13:15:31 <monerobull[m]1> https://github.com/lalanza808/docker-monero-node
13:15:47 <monerobull[m]1> This one has a nice grafana page included
13:16:09 <monerobull[m]1> Alternatively, search for sethforprivacy, he has a good, simple docker image + tutorial 
13:17:23 <drbunsen[m]> Thanks, I will check it out
13:26:00 <Rucknium[m]> G F: evalda Coinomi and Edge both were not ready for the August 2022 Monero network upgrade. That means that users could not send any XMR for a period of time without moving their seed words to different wallet software.
13:27:44 <Rucknium[m]> Source: https://twitter.com/EdgeWallet/status/1563584457361149952
13:27:45 <Rucknium[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/COINOMI/comments/wrqvw7/monero_node_is_down_need_to_export_the_mnemonic/
13:30:44 <Rucknium[m]> Is Coinomi still not working? 
13:41:26 <GF[m]> Ouch ok thanks! 
13:44:44 <Rucknium[m]> They weren't the only ones. WooKey, Exodus, MyMonero, Atomic, Guarda, and Zelcore all had Monero wallet downtime after the network upgrade.
13:46:03 <Rucknium[m]> Monero GUI, Feather, Monerujo, and Cake at least were all ready for the network upgrade.
14:06:22 <evalda[m]> It's mind blowing how these wallets didn't update in time for the network fork... Like what's more important to do... Glad I am using official monero client
14:07:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Most of them relied on mymoneo 
14:11:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> And are "lite wallets" where you give up your view key to a centralized server. They arent wallets that followed the core implementation. Iirc Mymonero also has and had a different fees and decoy selections respectively.
14:11:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr. Stick to wallets that dont rely on third party workarounds 
14:12:19 <evalda[m]> Yeah I thought mymonero was the official wallet from the monero team... Oh well...
14:12:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> The "official" wallet from the monero team is Monero cli and gui
14:13:05 <evalda[m]> True true
14:13:18 <selsta> mymonero wanted to fund a monero developer in advance so that they are ready in time but it didn't work out
14:16:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> selsta:  does the mymonero decoy selection match core now?
14:16:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> iirc the fees are still double the standard implementation (?) But the decoys match now. (I don't remember 🙂)
14:16:37 <selsta> i don't know, i'm not the one who looked into this
14:16:41 <selsta> Rucknium[m] knows maybe
14:17:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ok np. Thanks
14:20:01 <Rucknium[m]> jberman would be the best person to ask about that. I believe fees now match wallet2, but the decoy selection still differs.
14:38:59 <twisted_turtle[m> <Siren[m]> "Smh you're calling people who..." <- The MRL image wasn't coomer-ish at all, it was cute & nerdy. It seems  anime style in general just triggers some folks, so I'll commission some Monerochan in a "classy" style soon. Like something you'd see from a govt mint or in a relief on a nice courthouse.
14:44:19 <nioc> this is cute and nerdy.  https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/magicgrants.org/33ae138fe2a9746b2ea8c9a812c9f45e5e56c6d9/image.png
14:56:43 <twisted_turtle[m> this is coomer:
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17:08:14 <drbunsen[m]> More like animecon
17:08:43 <midipoet> nioc: jeepers binaryFate is looking well these days
17:09:49 <nioc> :)
17:24:54 <rbrunner> at least this does not hop up and down with animated titties. That's where I draw the line :)
18:49:33 <RavFX[m]> m-h-o-l.org / waw7epjul5xeacm4niblpgihdtg3atxyqekrlgz5spynqosdzftnbfad.onion
18:49:33 <RavFX[m]> Howto + test for hdd with ssd cache is there.
18:49:33 <RavFX[m]> Still some improvement to do plus adding some extra test
18:49:33 <RavFX[m]> ofrnxmr & other interested
19:38:16 <sgp[m]> 9 new language bounties opened for cake wallet: https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/labels/Bounty
19:53:10 <DanIsnotthemanBr> <twisted_turtle[m> "monerokon2 poster.png" <- Must be cold where she is 
20:46:09 <jwinterm[m]> sgp: I heard chatgpt is really good at doing that
22:00:16 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 153: December 29, 2022 - January 5, 2023. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-153.html