00:04:07 <jwinterm[m]> you need to log in and go to balances or wallet or something and find deposit button
10:16:51 <martin03[m]> <serpent[m]> "yes it's completed. now another..." <- this will help 
10:16:51 <martin03[m]> <https://youtu.be/gD2CBKbB6w0≥
11:24:26 <serpent[m]> > <@martin03:matrix.org> this will help 
11:24:26 <serpent[m]> > <https://youtu.be/gD2CBKbB6w0≥
11:24:26 <serpent[m]> that was funny but this is not nice for new learning people
11:24:35 <serpent[m]> nevermind
14:25:34 <still_stuck[m]> @serpent monerica.com has lots of exchanges list which support KYCless exchanging, in any case, binance supports XMR deposits and if it ever doesn't just link through kycless with some other currency and throaway acc
18:15:08 <sgp[m]> <serpent[m]> "yes it's completed. now another..." <- you may want to consider the simpler option of trading within Cake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6juLQPvOQnQ
18:33:54 <marvels[m]> Friends, is there a mobile application that can be connected to the ledger device monero application for monero?
18:35:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monerujo
18:38:47 <marvels[m]> Monerujo is broken. It didn't work from hw to monerujo.
19:04:36 <Lovera[m]> It works, you just need to keep open the wallet until going sync
19:04:57 <martin03[m]> my favorite exchange so far
19:04:57 <martin03[m]> https://sideshift.ai/
19:05:32 <martin03[m]> but it require javascript 
19:07:30 <MajesticBank> you can use it within monerujo without js
21:17:23 <EliteWallet> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10aa3pc/elitewallet_free_and_opensource_multicurrency/
21:18:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nice proxy feature 
21:18:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> What is this middle privacy mode
21:20:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cake fork but Notable missing features from latest Cale update (disabling calls to third party services, trusted nodes etc)
21:21:17 <EliteWallet> Middle privacy mode uses proxy.elitewallet.com:9999 as a proxy server
21:21:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> sgp:  we need proxy feature in cake/monero.com please and thanks :P 
21:22:19 <sgp[m]> Already on it
21:22:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> EliteWallet: How is this enhanced privacy 😂🥲🤣🤣🥲😂
21:23:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thats crazee
21:23:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Should say "trust us, I promise were nice people" mode
21:25:08 <EliteWallet> It's optional, you don't have to use it and can be modified in settings, not enforced by default
21:27:02 <EliteWallet> Best solution is to use your own proxy, local like tor or i2p
21:29:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Best solution is to use your own node 
21:29:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> And ignore that misleading feature
21:29:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or use any node and ignore that misleading feature 
21:30:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or use a vpn that you trust, not some soecific vpn that is known to be used for monero wallet traffic. Brilliant, right
21:31:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think its totally weird to offer that as "increased" privacy. Its not.
21:31:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> It just moves the goalpost from your service provider to elitewallet who can monitor your wallet traffic
21:33:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> In the greater picture, its not terrible.
21:33:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> But this is monero, and comparing to wallets like anonero and Shruum who are private by default and include obfucstion tools (tor or proxy), or Cake/monero.com and stack which have private modes rust disable external calls, monerujo which has external calls on-demand only
21:33:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Then you have the new "elite" wallet, offering a "tell me when you transact" mode 
21:34:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🥲
21:34:24 <EliteWallet> Best is to run your own node, its true. Otherwise you have to trust either VPN or remote node. Its all optional, so use what works best for your threat model. We try to give options, more options the better
21:35:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Proxy = great option, thanks
21:35:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Built in proxy = lol
21:35:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> * User set / manual Proxy =
21:36:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🍯
21:36:30 <EliteWallet> Its easier to run tor on your phone and use tor local proxy
21:36:41 <EliteWallet> That would be the best with obsf4
21:40:04 <sgp[m]> Is Orbot not sufficient? That's what 99% of people use on mobile anyway
21:41:13 <sgp[m]> I didn't realize Elite Technologies was a Nevis entity
21:43:10 <EliteWallet> Orbot can go up and down, leaking your IP, but once proxy is setup in app, no leaking can happen
21:44:10 <sgp[m]> that's definitely not how it works
21:44:17 <EliteWallet> Elite wallet also has an option to automatically scan for localhost ports, so if orbot changes socks port, it will automatically detect new one and start using it
21:53:41 <Siren[m]> that sounds over engineered
21:55:12 <Siren[m]> <sgp[m]> "that's definitely not how it..." <- if you disable orbot midway, it will leak IP
21:55:31 <Siren[m]> but if they are so worried about this, they must have some sort of a killswitch
21:55:49 <sgp[m]> Siren[m]: only if you don't select an .onion node
21:55:53 <Siren[m]> > <@sgp:magicgrants.org> that's definitely not how it works
21:55:53 <Siren[m]>  * if you disable orbot midway, the app will leak IP
21:57:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> They also have a proxy feature, which should totally lead to a dead connection if orbot goes down
21:57:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> So what in the world are they talking about ha
21:58:25 <sgp[m]> in theory if you used orbot to connect to a clearnet node, it's possible that if orbot stopped working, and if their kill switch stopped working, there could be a leak
21:58:37 <sgp[m]> their = the orbot
21:59:54 <Siren[m]> why does their license file contain Cake Labs and The Monero Project? https://github.com/Elite-Labs/EliteWallet/blob/master/LICENSE.md
21:59:54 <Siren[m]> did they borrow code?
22:00:01 <Siren[m]> otherwise this is not how license files work
22:00:35 <sgp[m]> idk about monero but it's a nearly 1:1 fork of cake
22:00:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its a copy paste of cake, with a couple prs on top
22:00:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> And some deletes 
22:00:47 <Siren[m]> ah
22:01:08 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (53KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/sjDiLgnUDysztSKsDBgTbPPW/image.png >
22:01:27 <Siren[m]> I don't like how the commit history is gone
22:02:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Why not? Sounds like the type of proxy operators youd want to send your monero through 
22:03:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🐒 maybe try to be honest 
22:03:50 <EliteWallet> Code is open-source and easily comparable, this is our first commit, other will follow
22:04:13 <Siren[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: inb4 someone will use it and pay 1 XMR transaction fee without realizing
22:04:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Roflamo
22:04:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> You stole a fucking project 
22:04:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> And deleted the commit history? Go die
22:04:35 <EliteWallet> We used most of codebase from Monero and Bitcoin project also. Their forks Litecoin and Wownero included
22:04:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> How many peoples work are you impersonating? 
22:05:00 <EliteWallet> This is work of thousand of different devs and thank them.
22:05:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> You deleted their commit history smfh
22:05:31 <EliteWallet> Also its much easier to build it now, since we simplified the process. There are no hidden things
22:05:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> K im done. 
22:05:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr, dont use 
22:05:53 <Siren[m]> EliteWallet: except since you got rid of the commit history you cannot give them any credit 
22:05:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nit even to to date with cakes codebase 🚮
22:06:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not even up to date*
22:06:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ie, its an OLD fork
22:06:42 <Siren[m]> we also cannot be sure that you didn't introduce anything malicious on top because we cannot diff it lmao
22:13:16 <Siren[m]>  * we also cannot be sure that you didn't introduce anything malicious on top
22:13:25 <sgp[m]> monerobull: thanks so much for this testimonial! https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10aa2e7/ive_tried_cake_pay_in_germany_here_is_how_it_went/
22:14:33 <monerobull[m]1> It's an awesome service :)
22:16:33 <Siren[m]> sgp: For Lithuania, you can resell any of these giftcards that can be purchased online https://www.geradovana.lt/
22:16:46 <Siren[m]> I would appreciate that a lot :D
22:17:03 <sgp[m]> Siren[m]: Thanks for sharing! Will look into
22:17:54 <Siren[m]> This one is the largest supermarket chain in the baltic region, also available: https://www.geradovana.lt/dovanu-cekis-maxima-maxima
22:22:09 <sgp[m]> Siren[m]: passed these along to our team to review. I will need to check their API
22:22:13 <Siren[m]> geradovana is behind cloudflare but if you would like to still automate the purchases we found a way ;)
22:22:18 <Stnby[m]> I found a way to bypass CloudFlare but I will not dump this information out for the public :D
22:22:40 <Siren[m]> We will happily share it with you :D
22:23:24 <sgp[m]> lol, why not do a disclosure? https://hackerone.com/cloudflare
22:23:41 <Siren[m]> it's not a cloudflare bug, the issue is on geradovana's end
22:23:47 <sgp[m]> ah
22:24:04 <sgp[m]> Do they have an API>
22:24:08 <Siren[m]> Nope
22:27:49 <Stnby[m]> Not exactly a official API but not too difficult to reverse it... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/485435ed6452f43b1891a5875b399f7e4889e6d2>)
23:15:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://txstreet.com/v/xmr-btc
23:15:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rip btc again
23:27:35 <DanIsnotthemanBr> did eth gas prices go up cause of russia too?
23:57:02 <Siren[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "https://txstreet.com/v/xmr-btc" <- Petition to put Isabella imagery on Monerokon material