00:18:05 <Rucknium[m]> Does everyone know what a boxplot is?
00:20:08 <jeffro256[m]> That's like the box you put the plot in right?
00:21:34 <Rucknium[m]> Maybe I will make a boxplot for my blog and then just a bar chart of the averages for Reddit.
00:44:02 <Siren[m]> Averages of what?
00:44:46 <Siren[m]> Come on now don't brag about 2 lines of R :D
00:48:23 <Rucknium[m]> The working title of the plot is "Time Between Transactions Entering the Mempool and Becoming Candidates for Blockchain Confirmation, by Mining Pool". Not great, I know.
00:48:26 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Mic drop
00:59:21 <monerobull[m]1> "Tracking the Journey: The Time from Mempool to Blockchain Confirmation for Transactions in Mining Pools"
00:59:39 <monerobull[m]1> * "Tracking the Journey: The Time from Mempool to Blockchain Confirmation for Transactions, by Mining Pools"
01:00:10 <monerobull[m]1> Idk, just playing with ChatGPT 
01:01:17 <monerobull[m]1> "From Mempool to Confirmation: A Study of Transaction Processing Time in Mining Pools"
01:19:04 <RavFX[m]> Does GPT3 still think that Z-trash is Zcash or they patched it?
01:22:10 <RavFX[m]> Yes, it does
01:22:10 <RavFX[m]> In what point Monero is better than Z-Trash?
01:22:10 <RavFX[m]> A: Monero is a privacy-focused blahblah
01:22:10 <RavFX[m]> Zcash, on the other hand, uses zero-knowledge proofs blah blah
01:25:32 <RavFX[m]> GPT3 is kinda crashy tonight
01:34:27 <as2333> RavFX[m] gtp3 doesn't exactly 'think' - it's just a copypasta database
01:36:06 <RavFX[m]> as2333: I know, just really good at it.
01:37:09 <as2333> RavFX[m] meh =P
01:38:35 <Rucknium[m]> No one has answered my question. I guess this was the wrong place to ask it. Need to find a study of statistical knowledge in the general population....
01:42:05 <xmrack[m]> Rucknium: Like a box and wisker plot?
01:44:08 <martin03[m]> can AI replace customer service , what are you guys thought?
01:45:55 <martin03[m]> some company have replaced their cs with chatbot
01:46:23 <Rucknium[m]> xmrack: Yes
01:55:35 <xmrack[m]> Does anyone know the technical aspects behing the claim "MoneroBlock is a trustless block explorer for the Monero payment network." https://github.com/duggavo/MoneroBlock
01:55:40 <xmrack[m]> What makes it trustless?
02:10:13 <Morpheus[m]> Okay, so Trocador was banned from posting on Reddit, suposedly because of using bots, but this is ridiculous. 
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02:10:32 <Morpheus[m]> "This account is banned for suspected bot activity. If you think this is an error, please contact the moderators."
02:10:49 <Morpheus[m]> This is absurd. This is a joke, right?
02:10:49 <Morpheus[m]> We have never paid bots to push posts. It's the other way around. Some competitor paid bots to DOWNVOTE our post. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1077vf4/comment/j3ojsa1/
02:12:07 <Morpheus[m]> Since our days from Moneroj.net we have NEVER used bots, and all our posts stay with 90-98% upvotes. But now that we are delivering payment solutions, our post suddenly gets only 25 upvotes and loses 20-30 upvotes, and stays at 73%. This is ridiculous. Can someone explain to me which post we've made that had bots? We have literally only this post published and CLEARLY this has not received upvotes from bots.
02:12:45 <Morpheus[m]> Lost a little bit of faith in this community, some moderator is either retarded or is getting money from a competitor.
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02:14:28 <Morpheus[m]> My last Moneroj post, gets 97% upvotes organically
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02:15:11 <Morpheus[m]> But when we deliver a full payment solution, BAM! 73% upvotes and we get banned
02:15:16 <DanIsnotthemanBr> plowsof: 
02:15:29 <Morpheus[m]> I'm terribly pissed off
02:17:01 <Morpheus[m]> This is ridiculous
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02:19:39 <Morpheus[m]> You can literally see bots downvoting our post when some competitor took notice of it
02:21:28 <Morpheus[m]> I posted a similar thread on r/btc and my post had huge positive margin, even with their community having 30% of the activity monero has
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02:24:25 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Need to get alternative to reddit
02:26:46 <Morpheus[m]> This is also something that could be easily exploited by a competitor. For example, if the competitor instead of buying DOWNVOTES, bought 300 UPVOTES to our thread, we would be banned as well. I've seen something similar happen before. You wait your competitor to publish a post, and upvote massively his post, until it becomes obvious that someone is using bots.
02:27:59 <Morpheus[m]> In our case, it's obvious someone bought downvotes and got us banned, which is ridiculous. But if the competitor had been smarter, it would look like we were the ones buying upvotes, so it would be impossible to dismiss the charge.
02:33:46 <Morpheus[m]> Well, let's just hope reason prevails on this. I've sent a message to moderators, will wait.
02:41:33 <Morpheus[m]> Ok, good, moderators unbanned us. 
02:43:16 <Morpheus[m]> All good now, sorry for the drama.
02:55:57 <nioc> Morpheus[m]: it's ok, we love drama 
02:56:57 <nioc> Mods have been trying to deal with a bot problem 
02:58:15 <Morpheus[m]> Thanks haha
03:08:41 <xmrack[m]> <xmrack[m]> "Does anyone know the technical..." <- Anyone know how this block explorer is “trustless”
04:41:26 <chesterfield[m]> Wow I like money
04:41:26 <ocean[m]> robertlombardo: why lie you bloody basterd sir
04:41:26 <chesterfield[m]> Robert is going to make us all rich
05:05:31 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Financial freedom with btc?
06:02:17 <Siren[m]> <Rucknium[m]> "No one has answered my question...." <- And you should survey random n people here to have a sample and see if a chi-squared goodness of fit test at a = 0.05 provides you with enough evidence to conclude that this was indeed the wrong place to ask :) 
06:51:29 <monerobull[m]1> <Morpheus[m]> ""This account is banned for..." <- By reddit itself or the monero mods?
06:52:52 <monerobull[m]1> Bcs r/monero gets so many fucking bot comments, regular people get caught in the crossfire all the time
06:54:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> <Rucknium[m]> "Does everyone know what a..." <- Sure
07:41:40 <DanIsnotthemanBr> didnt i see someone do research  here on node setups with ssd?
07:42:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yes
07:42:54 <DanIsnotthemanBr> yeah
07:42:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> You mean, ssd + HDD etc, right? Ramdisk etc
07:42:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> http://waw7epjul5xeacm4niblpgihdtg3atxyqekrlgz5spynqosdzftnbfad.onion/index.php?article=hdd_sync
07:43:27 <DanIsnotthemanBr> look at setting up K3 with node
07:43:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> RavFX:  is author 
07:46:31 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/look/looking/
08:14:24 <plowsof11> xmrack the 'trustless' thing is just marketing, i.e. 'its your own node / explorer'
08:15:58 <DanIsnotthemanBr> zero trust
08:16:47 <plowsof11> decental-zero-trustisized blockexplorer 9000 
08:17:49 <plowsof11> heres pre-built binaries
10:00:50 <plowsof11> i posted some feedback for savandra https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/308#note_20378 
10:03:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> I believe ceetee did grant you permission 
10:07:31 <plowsof11> i want to look smart though 
10:09:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> So wear a white lab coat 
10:09:16 <sech1> and glasses!
10:09:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> And a clipboard helps too
10:10:34 <plowsof11> lol
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10:14:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Actuslly... I think this is better
10:17:02 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Itchy wig
10:20:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Probably why they look so serious 
10:20:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Trying verrrry hard not to scratch)
11:13:18 <monerobull[m]1> Looks like Bisq has dropped the planned monero-btc atomic swaps for Bisq v2
11:13:50 <monerobull[m]1> Therefore making the software completely irrelevant to me. Looking forward to haveno
11:46:16 <plowsof11> will 0.5 xmr tempt them to re-think their decision? https://bounties.monero.social/posts/46/0-587m-add-monero-btc-atomic-swaps-to-bisq
11:53:55 <monerobull[m]1> Apparently they don't have the resources 
11:54:07 <monerobull[m]1> They won't even integrate lightning kek 
13:12:20 <plowsof11> i just used the farcaster gui to atomic swap montero successfully - i now have a migraine but it worked 
13:30:54 <monerobull[m]1> I clicked through it, had too many boxes to fill
13:31:50 <monerobull[m]1> Basicswap is already confusing enough and you only have to enter amounts, time, ratio and if its fixed or not
13:34:20 <plowsof11> all you have to do is start a monero-wallet-rpc with correct flags / pointed at a node. download / install the rust crate, add the bin folder to your path so you can access the "farcasterd" directly from your terminal, then you need to find the the config file which is in a different folder. paste a few lines you found from github to enable gRPC (this enabled the GUI to work) - then you have to convert the BTC values to mBTC (if
13:34:20 <plowsof11> you;re using electrum like me , else the swap aborts because you send the wrong amount) then you just wait, and it works, simple 
13:39:32 <monerobull[m]1> I already failed at rust crate when i was trying to use xmrsale
13:42:29 <xenu[m]> But their plebbit post used misspellings and emojis!
13:43:19 <monerobull[m]1> 👽
13:47:32 <Rucknium[m]> > Connecting to a counterparty will require knowledge of their daemon's address, and the amounts traded (i.e. the price and quantity). Creating a platform such as a DEX, allowing people to find each other and "auto" connect with the correct arguments or negotiate the price, is out-of-scope for this project.
13:47:35 <Rucknium[m]> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/h4sh3d-atomic-swap-implementation.html
13:48:20 <monerobull[m]1> This one works in both directions right
13:48:25 <Rucknium[m]> This ^ is Farcaster, right?
13:50:28 <plowsof11> correct
13:52:22 <Rucknium[m]> You can place an order on the "order book" for either BTC or XMR?
13:53:10 <monerobull[m]1> If that's the case, I'm sure BasicSwap will implement it
13:53:39 <plowsof11> i have only tried buying monero with btc - but yes, ill try buying btc with monero (seems to be possible)
14:20:18 <plowsof11> atomic swap users love the 10 block lock 
14:21:54 <plowsof11> ok i just bought btc with monero - just don't fall asleep during the swap 
14:40:52 <nioc> You just bought btc?
14:41:02 <nioc> My condolences 
15:00:53 <vikCake[m]> Cake Wallet.. a 5 year journey.     https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10f7qrs/cake_wallet_the_5_year_journey/
15:32:55 <h4sh3d> plowsof: i recognize the manual setup is quite involving, but if you have docker installed it can be as easy as ‘docker compose up’ (I should update a bit the compose file to include latest feature tho). Otherwise install should be managed as a package, AUR, rpm, deb, Flatpak, … and the choice is large (and I only mentioned Linux target) so we didn’t put much effort there 
15:35:15 <h4sh3d> Rucknium[m]: the idea is to not be opinionated about how people find each other and negotiate trades(deals in Farcaster term), that’s why we put it out of scope 
17:35:36 <midipoet> vikCake[m]: quite a nice read. Very honest, and humble. Congratulations on your five year anniversary/birthday.  
17:43:54 <vikCake[m]> <midipoet> "vik (Cake): quite a nice read..." <- Thank you sir!
18:54:53 <DanIsnotthemanBr> <plowsof11> "ok i just bought btc with monero..." <- Ban
23:08:11 * plowsof11 was banned for swapping sXMR for tBTC