00:00:01 rather then trying to implement monero atomic swap using farcaster, having more protocol is better 00:00:11 monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: get our here!!! 00:00:17 Out* 00:00:24 what 00:00:43 Is basicswap both directions for monero? 00:01:10 not yet but they made it a big point that they are working on it 00:01:22 Ok, thanks 00:01:32 can they just use farcaster and enable it? maybe? 00:01:49 farcaster is by hashed right 00:01:53 yeah 00:02:10 i never trust 'working on it responses though lol 00:02:20 and the initial atomic swaps (comit) too? 00:02:27 plowsof11: Cough, Cake wallet, cough 00:02:41 working on it is just , dont ask me about it for at least a week 00:03:12 It means "im not working on it" 00:03:14 i dunno hashed's involvement with comit , i know kayaba mentioned his own at the early stages but eventually left 00:03:35 i mean basicswap already delivered the best implementation of atomic swaps we have right now 00:03:38 comit protocol is not just for monero... i reember seeing grin.. and other coins 00:03:54 they said they used hashed's initial design 00:04:19 ok ignore everything im saying about basicswaps (i have no idea) 00:04:44 i think they are probably following farcaster real close 00:05:35 farcaster definitely works - once they iron out the ux things 00:05:41 #basicswap:matrix.org 00:06:11 i dont think we need a comit gui at all 00:06:29 Is basic is using comit, then we definitely dont.. 00:07:20 * monerobull[m]1 uploaded an image: (90KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/gnpbfiEjsJYPWiNCynRsrDLT/grafik.png > 00:07:29 https://github.com/h4sh3d/xmr-btc-atomic-swap 00:08:10 and im going to assume that farcaster = hashed... i dont like this, i have no idea 00:08:24 too many acronyms 00:09:07 * monerobull[m]1 uploaded an image: (110KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/KvrKVwMPuNXYPjggeyKXRrVU/grafik.png > 00:09:16 plowsof11: you would be correct 00:10:05 but i assume the 'new' version is 2 way 00:10:11 i mean ive seen it with my own eyes 00:11:24 * monerobull[m]1 uploaded an image: (23KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/rRIQHvOwnCNJTzWTYOyGTBdj/grafik.png > 00:11:31 my canon timeline 00:11:54 and yes farcaster is 2way 00:15:26 7 hours of scroll back. How many hundreds of posts is that? lol 00:17:55 wonder what it will be by the time I can get to it sometime tomorrow 00:34:36 are you using at least version 0.18.0 of the cli/gui wallet nioc (if your sync has fell behind this could be the issue) 00:36:44 How many nodes will need to be run to use all these projects :/ 00:37:39 All? Why would you use the ones with 0 liquidity 😝 00:38:21 Can probably use 1 node per coin that you plan to use 00:38:47 And point basic, comit, and fsrcaster at the same node (?) 01:11:10 Fast Growing MuOnline server season 6 ep3 100x custom https://mu-vita.com/ 01:26:59 Is anyone here buying into the Maya launch 01:28:11 They kinda lost me when ready dropped monero and instead will now launch with dash, kuji(wtf is that) and the rest copies copied from thorchain 01:29:23 s/ready/they/ 01:29:24 Bcs it's easier 01:30:03 If they wanted to be a real contender, they'd have finished the haven thorchain integration and launched with monero 01:30:44 But i think their team just kinda sucks so they went the easiest route possible 01:31:14 what's maya? 01:31:24 Thorchain fork 01:31:45 With some really stupid ideas tacked on 01:32:03 They initially wanted to copy the terra Luna model 01:32:38 Now they have "redesigned" that to be supposedly secure against death spirals 01:32:54 By introducing FIVE stablecoins 01:33:57 monerobull[m]1: Haven is garbage 01:34:09 Just look at this hilarious page in their 111 page long white paper 01:34:13 * monerobull[m]1 uploaded an image: (204KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/EyIOHHxNcpAAaTvIEXCYWpKx/Screenshot_20230125-023344.png > 01:34:46 mmm chocolate dollar 01:34:46 Milk, almond, butter, sugar, chocolate 01:34:52 Ive seen enough 01:35:03 I think they have 7 tokens in total 01:35:05 Oh no 01:35:54 They have Maya, cacao, atztec and the 5 stablecoins 01:35:55 So 8 01:36:47 So 0 01:36:59 >copy the terra Luna model 01:37:00 LMAO 01:37:24 They have this fancy Maya token 01:37:26 hard to think of a more idiotic scam 01:37:32 Because obviously merchants love supporting multiple currencies. The perfect global currency must be fragmented across as many tokens as possible /s 01:37:37 as2333: ^Mil 01:37:44 Which gets 10% of cacao fees (what rune is for thorchain) 01:37:59 There's probaby a reason I dont know about Maya 01:38:05 And it's very fairly distributed, obviously 01:38:11 * monerobull[m]1 uploaded an image: (144KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/oRlcMDGcuaAxLtJemkuMLoiv/Screenshot_20230125-023636.png > 01:38:13 Where dud you find it, wish.com? 01:38:18 Look at how big they make the 90% 01:38:19 Kek 01:38:41 And then in reality 80% goes to the devs 01:39:22 dev fund -> devs get 10% 01:39:32 I love the early node fund. It's like "come on guys, it just needs to run long enough to pump!" 01:39:54 ofrnxmr[m]: In my desperation for a xmr liquidity pool dex i stumbled over them 01:39:58 plowsof11: 8% 01:40:06 Bcs they absolutely LATCH onto thorchain twitter 01:40:31 Maya is the token that gets 10% of cacao network fees, don't forget 01:41:20 So every time you make a swap, on Maya, 80% of a tenth of your fee goes to the devs 01:41:27 ofrnxmr[m]: 0.8%**** 01:41:37 10% of 8% 01:41:56 a pie chart wouldnt be so mean though 01:42:01 And the other 9 tenths are used to prob up their stablecoins or something stupid like that 01:42:16 monerobull[m]1: U can stop shilling shitcoin now pls 01:42:21 right, 0.8% lol wow 01:42:23 It's funny 01:42:54 I need to calculate the best way to make money from this 01:43:03 Was funny until you realize they are serious 01:43:08 Bcs rune holders get Maya airdropped 01:43:24 R u drunk? 01:43:29 Or are you Faustina? 01:43:38 * Or are you rayatina? 01:43:41 But rune holders can essential opt out of the airdrop by using their rune as liquidity and get cacao instead 01:43:50 Crypto names, so funny 01:43:56 Who has rune or wants shitdrops? 01:44:08 I have rune 01:44:12 #shitcoin-offtopic 01:44:17 Bcs i thought theyd add monero soon 😭 01:44:27 You're clearly drunk 01:44:32 For months 01:44:39 No it's just 3 am 01:44:44 Why would you imagine such a fantasy? 01:45:07 Thorchain adding Monero? Centralized shithole, what atevwe even talking about 01:45:27 Still better than using a cex 01:45:38 How 01:45:49 They dont have privacy coins lmfao 01:46:01 No KYC 01:46:22 Cash ? 01:46:22 Fiat* 01:46:30 That's what Haveno will be for 01:46:38 So why mention kyc 01:46:52 I can get monero with no kyc from a cex 01:47:03 Bcs instant swappers can still hit you with the shotgun kyc 01:47:25 Kucoin, tradeogre 01:47:35 Look, i just think liquidity pools are a pretty cool thing 🤷‍♂️ 01:47:54 And no, if you send monero you never get hit with KYC, and if you send stolen shitcoins thats your own problem 01:48:05 Shouldn't steal non fungible tokens then try to use my service tl wash em 01:48:22 Thorchain savers seems to be doing tremendously well 01:48:42 #shitcoin-offtopic 01:48:48 4% any on BTC 01:48:48 anything less than 500% api im not interested 01:48:48 Who gives a damn what eth tokens do 01:49:03 Lfg' apecoin 01:49:11 * 4% apy on BTC 01:49:43 I had like 80% apy on thorchain pools before 01:50:01 When they launched avax, the usd pool was that high 01:50:03 Ive had 19k Apr on futures before 01:50:35 I've turned 50$ into 2 eth with a reddit nft 01:50:41 Wen Shitcoins trading channel 01:50:55 terra had 20% https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-LUNA-Terra-Crypto-give-us-20-APY-for-staking-Is-there-any-official-link-to-confirm-that 01:51:03 I had terra 01:51:12 "Had" 01:51:13 Got that juicy 20% 01:51:20 Wtf 01:51:22 blood money 01:51:25 lol 01:51:30 R u seriously drunk 01:51:35 Then after like 2 months i was "let's trade that into xmr" 01:52:00 That was 3 weeks before the collapse 🤗 01:52:24 I've used thorchain to cash out the terra for BTC and then went to ogre 01:52:33 s/'ve// 01:53:03 I still remember shilling the 20% Apy to my dad kek 01:53:25 Have any non shitcoins/services tl tall about 01:53:30 Anything monero related? 01:53:41 I obviously didn't think it was sustainable, just assumed it's VCs pumping money into terra and to take it while they still do 01:53:54 ofrnxmr[m]: Have you seen my newest video 01:53:55 Haven is trash, and thorchain is a joke 01:54:09 im glad Monero is just money - and anyone who talks about adding staking / scripts gets laughed out of the door 01:54:16 SeraiDex, my true love 01:54:47 i consider 'apy' the same as the lottery - a tax on the poor 01:55:01 paid upon collapse usually 01:55:08 monerobull[m]1: https://youtu.be/xLxo2jr03H4 01:55:12 plowsof11: ^ this 01:55:54 Serai works with a trusted model too, doesnt it? 01:56:17 Sadly, yes 01:56:20 There is no perfect Dex solution without cross chain atomic swaps 01:56:27 At least in the bootstrap phase 01:56:44 ofrnxmr[m]: That's BasicSwap 01:56:56 I mean, that works 01:57:02 In both directions. ... 01:57:06 But it's annoying to run right now and trades are slow 01:57:16 ofrnxmr[m]: Should be in the future 01:57:38 Probably before haveno launches😅 01:57:42 Yeah. At which point ill still never swap monero there 😆😆 01:57:56 ofrnxmr[m]: Of course not 01:57:58 Who's trying to walk away with tainted coins 01:58:08 Well 01:58:13 I have made diagrams already 01:58:24 I use Fixedfloat and other KYC services to ensure I get clean shitcoins 👍 01:58:27 our 10 block lock means you are at risk of falling asleep during atomic swapping 01:58:34 On how to perfectly wash coins between all the available dexes 01:58:51 This is how I do it: I dont use dirty coins 01:59:01 But you can sell clean xmr 01:59:07 For a 10% markup 01:59:17 All xmr is clean xmr 01:59:20 And sell the dirty coins back into a liquidity pool 02:00:17 I see what youre saying, but why would I do that 02:00:38 I dont trust Thor milkchain almost chocolate 02:00:50 Money! 02:01:24 Id rather not lock up my coins on a protocol that is afraid of the govenrment 02:01:24 I've tried to arb stablecoins on thorchain 02:01:32 My 1k UST got stuck onchain 02:01:58 I had to message support in discord... 02:02:08 Twice because at first they didn't believe me 02:02:12 Sounds decentralized 02:02:26 "If your dero swaps fail, msg is and we will fix it manually" 02:02:27 1-800-NSA 02:02:36 Serious 02:02:54 They rebroadcasted the transaction or some shit and only then it went through 02:02:54 Red flags all over the play 02:03:04 So they censored your tx :) 02:03:14 Unintentionally = can do it intentionally 02:03:32 I mean if your protocol is shit, sure, that can happen 02:03:46 Yeah, lets lock NY fund uo 02:04:23 Knowing they can easily stop a tx 02:05:16 I just think liquidity pools are so damn awesome 🥲 02:05:17 Sounds like binance for paranoid people 02:05:24 Except doesnt support privacy 02:05:54 Proof of stake is your thing then lmao 02:05:56 Better stack some zec 02:06:05 Nooo 02:06:16 Not Apy based on inflation 02:06:26 Apy based on swap fees 😎 02:06:45 POS is based on liquidity.. 02:06:52 The more locked up, lower circ.. 02:07:00 Pos gets tx fees... 02:07:11 Its the same shit, same smell, same dog, different leash 02:07:12 Yeah but I'm taking about liquidity pools 02:07:22 Between different assets 02:07:27 For swapping 02:08:38 I understand "just out your money there and free money when people need to use your money!" 02:09:03 I out 160 usd and 1xmr and now I get money everytime someone wants to buy or sell xmr! 02:09:23 Yes :) 02:09:42 Only in that case 1 xmr ans ? Serai 02:10:02 s/ans/and/ 02:10:13 Monerobull 02:10:24 I highly advise against glueing your own money for these purposes 02:10:31 Open a ccs for 100k 02:10:39 Good idea 02:10:43 s/glueing/using/ 02:11:03 We could name it "help bootstrapping serai" or something like that 02:11:36 "Monerobull and sgp yacht fund" 02:11:54 Lmao 02:11:54 If ercicione can gamble why cant i.... 02:12:06 Actually, I bought a house last year 02:12:22 ofrnxmr[m]: And he got a bailout lmao 02:12:35 Multiple bailouts.. 02:12:49 Then tried to call Diego a bad actor 😆 02:13:26 Telling people "dont use stack wallet" 02:14:09 But yeah. Monerobull needs a ccs for at least 25k 02:14:33 I have more confidence in a ROI that is positive for monero, is bull flips 25k 02:14:53 Vs the meth drinking video 02:15:00 Gamble on the Oscars and hope people read the credits for 25k 02:15:11 Id rather gamble on monerobulls liquidity fund 02:15:21 Then we buy yacht, and do a Monerokon CRUISE 02:15:32 That sounds cool 02:15:49 In the movie there is a cowboy hat 02:16:04 And it has more screentime that the monero coin 02:16:24 You forgot spolier alert 02:17:06 We are also getting majorly diminished returns by funding the movie 02:17:28 "Monero" is already in the credits in the form of bears song title 02:17:54 And like.. we already have bears song 02:17:55 Why dont we pay him directly 💀 02:18:09 All of these influencer busting their ass everyday for free 02:18:17 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: is the movie permissively licensed 02:18:19 And were going to pay someone who says Bitcoin 02:18:28 monerobull[m]1: No reply 02:18:36 If it was, youd be able to share it 02:18:38 Rofl 02:18:47 I saw all but one songs have creative Commons 02:18:55 This proposal is DEAD if I cent watch it immediately 02:19:08 monerobull[m]1: Well then its dead 02:20:24 4 All work must be licensed permissively at ALL stages of the proposal. THERE IS NO TIME WHERE YOUR WORK CAN BE LICENSED UNDER A RESTRICTIVE LICENSE (EVEN AS YOU'RE WORKING ON IT). Your proposal will be TERMINATED if this is not remedied. 02:20:31 This is the rulez 02:20:39 While bears song plays there is bare Booba on screen 😳 02:21:02 Oh. In that case I may change my vote 02:21:59 But yeah. If the movie isnt freely available under a permissive licence, then its dead 02:22:12 I need to be able to take any part of the movie, right now, and use it as my avatar 02:22:23 Did you guys know the director is geonic 02:22:42 So THATS who is replying and calling people socks 02:22:58 Burn it with fire 02:23:04 I realized after trying to find out how he helped with monero means money 02:23:05 geonic0: 02:23:25 geonic1: geonic9: is it you replying 02:24:10 was monero means money supposed to be a film? 02:24:11 George Nicholas -> geo nic 02:24:20 Felt real smart when i found that out 02:24:24 Ahhhhh 02:24:28 https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$Mu1O3L6VbDJmteG-Z3Hnvy_Wl5a7h7LQHFoIeU720TI?via=monero.social&via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat 02:24:34 He liked this fud bullshit 02:24:50 So, from me to george: fuck you, coward 02:25:38 Such a shame when people act like shitbags when doing business 02:25:41 Siren[m]: It was a talk 02:26:07 I remember trying to watch it because someone called it a monero movie 02:26:19 But it appears it was turned into a film to play at empty movie theaters during the lockdowns 02:26:29 and it turned out to be just slides 02:26:43 I was very disappointed :D 02:26:53 So they apparently briefly were like #1 movie in cinema or something like that 02:28:07 Im in the credits in my head canon eventhough i joined xmr like a year later 02:28:38 Some named MB is in the credits so that counts 02:28:49 idk was very boring video 02:28:53 monero means money was being played during lockdown? 02:29:07 In empty Theaters it seems 02:29:11 i thought that was years ago, but lockdown was also years ago, im old? 02:29:54 Lockdown was 2020 02:29:54 plowsof11: the lockdown was twenty years ago 02:29:54 lmao 02:29:55 We have 2023 02:29:55 🙂 02:30:01 Monero is still a $160 stable coin 02:30:19 Always has been 🔫 02:30:48 plowsof11: mUSt bE tHe vACciNe 02:31:43 In April my shop turns 1 02:33:24 Ok i should really take my 3 hours of sleep i have left 02:34:12 Nice chat everyone. Tomorrow I'll read the Maya 2.0 white paper 02:34:12 Maybe I'll find something funny 02:35:25 Monero meet will be fun tomo 02:36:49 If i dont fall asleep 4 hours before that 02:38:21 I was pinged? 02:38:41 Yeah, just talking shit about ya 02:38:56 Jk. Just mentioned that someone else was 02:39:22 Have you seen the new movie by Geonic? 02:40:45 No? 02:41:52 DiegoSalazar[m]: Matrix really shouldn't ping on regular text by default 02:42:08 impossible to talk shit about people, yeah 02:42:34 Monerochan: is great 02:42:52 .@ monerochan 02:43:04 The name is all fucked up when you try to tag it 02:44:01 DiegoSalazar[m]: Its finished. 25k to bring it to the oscars 02:44:05 What do you think? 02:44:33 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/371 03:07:54 hi 03:09:03 Welcome. 03:12:31 ofrnxmr: hi 03:12:38 hi 03:13:25 hmmm 03:14:09 DiegoSalazar[m]: d 03:14:21 das me 03:14:46 Diego Salazar: yea 03:18:47 i assume Binance bot is going to start DM'ing people trying to scam? Chance Baker explain this weird behaviour 03:19:54 haha 03:20:10 5 hours left 03:20:16 lmao 03:27:59 Chanceeeeee 03:28:05 25 words haha 03:28:09 Who may you be 03:28:33 hehe 03:29:19 Trolled 03:29:21 a sec 03:31:01 Chance is my alt 03:31:18 Right chsnce? Join now or forever hold your peace 03:32:43 obstruct ha>c> Boring 03:35:21 :( ofrnxmr says play with me 03:36:13 You dont sound like golden0. Are you someone that doesnt like me 😀 03:47:32 phew 09:32:47 Word ban=25word 14:43:12 Monero Meet today at 1pm CT (~4 hrs from now). DM me if you want to join the discussion! 19:05:25 Did it begin? 19:06:43 Yes 19:06:57 https://youtu.be/ScgTWizL9Dc 21:28:25 💀https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/371#note_20524 21:29:19 I will seed it myself using 5 Gbps uplink 21:30:02 luckily it will have a permissive license 🗿 21:33:03 Why wont he acknowledge my existence 😡 21:33:26 custom css to remove containers that include your name 21:34:24 Ill get my 24 or 25 friends to comment 😡😡😡😡😡 21:34:40 My wife and my alts 21:34:52 Sgp's wife* 21:36:03 jwinterm @jwinterm:magicgrants.org: no permissive licence = no ccs 21:36:03 If you really fund something non-free like this 21:36:06 I really reeeally hope that the general fund fucking dies 21:36:08 We will seed it regardless of the license 21:36:44 No permissive license = I will pirate 21:36:53 I will even sneak into the movie theater 21:37:24 Jk ^. I wont be in new york 21:37:26 thats F'ing illegal 21:37:35 Not in my country 21:39:03 ok guys, we dont want to advocate for breaking any laws meant to protect interlectual property. cool it with the all that FOSS-infected talk 😊 21:39:27 we've got pirates in -community (who are not anonymous taunting people) and in -monero the last message was something about crime is great 21:39:39 I need screenshots for my new avatar 21:39:41 can we chill pls 21:40:05 Lmao 21:40:24 Me and Monerobull leave for 2 hours and look what happens 21:40:24 you'll be able to watch it on yts.mx 21:40:38 ofrnxmr[m]: did he decline to license it differently? 21:40:41 wait whats going on 21:40:45 when did that rule become a rule anyway? 21:40:53 forever 21:41:00 jwinterm @jwinterm:libera.chat: hes ignoring questions regarding it, which is against thebrules 21:41:03 what was the license for chinese forum or music production company thing? 21:41:07 ok 21:41:23 see here: https://ccs.getmonero.org/what-is-ccs/ 21:41:29 #4 , at all times it must be permissive licensed or else temrinated if bot remedied 21:41:38 did we fund music in the past? 21:41:47 the fluffypony thing? 21:41:59 Zcash anthem? 21:42:06 the what 21:42:14 if we "help a movie get to the oscars" by raising funds as a community the community deserves to see it 21:42:20 https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20211107#c44859 21:42:23 plowsof11: i wish zcash anthem was ours 21:42:33 zcash zcash 🎶 21:42:41 is it permissively licensed 21:42:44 ofrnxmr[m]: you could throw out that one song and replace it with something else 21:42:49 well i wouldnt have paid the 50k for it 21:43:07 heck I can't remember what it was called 21:43:11 ceetee[m]: The entire production has to be 21:43:25 plowsof11: Mr Dixit hasnt taken down my video yet 21:43:41 Is the video permissive ? Can I share it? No 21:44:06 What is the license? Is there one? 21:44:23 i believe so far its unclear 21:44:24 wdym, ofrnxmr? He has the raw files, he can mix another song in 21:44:26 There must be if it is being taken to the Oscars and/or theater 21:44:54 There are multiple licences on any production 21:45:12 A simple song doesnt change whether the master production is permissive 21:45:15 monerobull[m]1: That song is licensed under CC Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International 21:45:15