00:00:15 <geonic> monerobull wasn't hand picked by me. he asked for a link and received it
00:00:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nowhere in the ccs does it say that nobody else can see it
00:01:03 <geonic> I'm done sending links because the risk of extortion has gotten to be a bit high
00:01:15 <geonic> do this or don't do this otherwise I'll post your film ba-ha-ha
00:01:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Risk of extortion? 
00:01:43 <geonic> whatevs. don't be salty because you didn't get a link
00:01:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> If someone wants to torrent your movie, they will. Welcome to the internet
00:01:52 <DanIsnotthemanBr> extortion for what?
00:03:17 <geonic> I explained that having the film online disqualifies it from film festivals. I don't think they care about torrents. I also don't care if the film is on torrents and I wish it will be seeded by thousands of people, but not before it is released
00:04:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> If the film cent be licences permissively, its asinine to ask for donations 
00:04:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> From ccs*
00:04:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> You want 25k for "make me famous sgp yacht fund"
00:04:43 <geonic> why? I'm asking for donations for the marketing of the film, not for the film itself. all marketing materials will be permissively licensed and freely shareable
00:04:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^ right
00:04:55 <geonic> when did sgp learn to sail
00:05:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> A couple weeks ago
00:05:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> ( and im all for sgp:  yacht fund)
00:05:31 <geonic> hehe
00:05:37 <geonic> me too, I think everyone should own a yacht
00:05:42 <geonic> yachts are fun
00:05:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, I have 3 myself
00:06:10 <geonic> I hope one of them is named thankful for today
00:06:17 <geonic> that's what I would name my yacht
00:06:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nah, but it has an M on it
00:06:40 <geonic> but does it have the word Monero in all caps?!
00:06:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Only in the credits 
00:06:49 <geonic> it doesn't count otherwise
00:06:54 <geonic> oh ok
00:07:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> 😂 sorry, walked into that one
00:07:19 <geonic> hehe
00:08:09 <DanIsnotthemanBr> ofrnxmr[m]: russian oligarch ?
00:08:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ukrainian 
00:09:00 <monerobull[m]1> I wouldn't want a yacht. The one in wolf of wall street sank 
00:09:07 <monerobull[m]1> Hmm
00:09:12 <monerobull[m]1> Boating accident 
00:09:16 <DanIsnotthemanBr> lol
00:09:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> I lose yachts all the time 
00:09:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Just paint a W on it instead 
00:09:39 <DanIsnotthemanBr> doesnt fluffy have one?
00:09:46 <monerobull[m]1> He has a watch
00:09:51 <DanIsnotthemanBr> oh k
00:09:53 <geonic> he has a whole reef
00:10:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> monero island
00:10:13 <monerobull[m]1> Idk about yacht but man, people seemed to like that watch
00:10:23 <monerobull[m]1> And the watch came with a sports bike!
00:10:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> oo
00:10:54 <DanIsnotthemanBr> curious what bike it was
00:10:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> geonic:  so for 25k we get a shot in the dark at the Oscars, or played in 1 theater in USA? 
00:11:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hoe exactly does this lead to any sort of. .. anything except for validation
00:11:19 <DanIsnotthemanBr> is marketing that expensive?
00:11:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Doesn't sound like its meant to "take off", just meant to get you a trophy 
00:11:37 <DanIsnotthemanBr> cant you just get insta and twitter bots
00:11:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ill vote yes if I can keep the trophy 
00:11:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> geonic:  deal?
00:11:54 <geonic> I'll send you a picture of the trophy
00:11:59 <DanIsnotthemanBr> not real gold tho
00:12:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Need to give it to me at the award ceremony 
00:12:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> actually i dont think you get to keep it
00:12:26 <geonic> I'll let you rub it and make a wish. that's it
00:12:40 <sgp[m]> geonic: Collectible NFT 😎
00:12:42 <DanIsnotthemanBr> mint it
00:12:49 <geonic> that too
00:12:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont talk dirty to me Geo, you might get me excited 
00:13:19 <DanIsnotthemanBr> 🍆
00:13:27 <geonic> I know, I'm trying to get you to click that upvote button
00:13:32 <geonic> imagine rubbing that Oscar... mmmm
00:13:37 <monerobull[m]1> DanIsnotthemanBr: https://www.ablogtowatch.com/richard-mille-rm-70-01-tourbillon-alain-prost-cycling-watch/
00:13:48 <DanIsnotthemanBr> i accept bribes for upvotes
00:14:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> So do i
00:14:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> that watch looks confusing
00:14:52 <geonic> I'll mention Monero in the acceptance speech. should I put that in the deliverables?
00:15:05 <geonic> haha
00:15:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> An upvote from me = permissive video
00:15:20 <monerobull[m]1> 43XmrbuLLWD3JGHg8CRCdPBCrYB1CLZMBXfiDoeyoqF24cruNGFXqDpFExckKxDo9ggmgKGazwsdPcJtee1AqhRyCRn7JqZ 🙂
00:15:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> No way in hell im voting for marketing your trophy aspirations when it doesnt benefit community at all
00:15:50 <geonic> you'll have a permissive trailer
00:15:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> If I cant share the shit out of it, no
00:16:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lolz. Id rather have a shed
00:16:19 <monerobull[m]1> It would be cool if we could share it around like we can with Monero Means Money 
00:16:31 <geonic> you'll be able to share the trailer to your heart's content. and you'll get a private screener link if you donate
00:16:46 <monerobull[m]1> :/
00:16:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> This is all about that Oscar 
00:16:47 <geonic> or maybe even if you don't donate, who knows
00:17:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, someone and their alt might fund it
00:17:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> So why dont they fund it now?
00:17:28 <DanIsnotthemanBr> need a css for netflix alt
00:17:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Why do you need ccs if you have Angel investors 
00:17:29 <geonic> because some gatekeeping trolls are downvoting the proposal?
00:17:37 <geonic> :p
00:17:38 <monerobull[m]1> Can't you do a Monero Community Edition or something like that with a permissive license 
00:17:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> You have a monero wallet? 
00:18:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> ask jack dorsey he seem to give monery out
00:18:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/monery/money/
00:18:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull[m]1: Literally there is plenty of software that is "paid"
00:18:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Still I can build ut from source or install it from repos
00:18:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Even xmrig includes a donation if you dont build from source 
00:18:52 <geonic> monerobull[m]1: maybe, don't know
00:19:04 <monerobull[m]1> Man i love community editions of software that costs businesses tens of thousands to license 
00:19:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^^
00:19:49 <plowsof11> geonic is an actual movie director though, well done sir 
00:20:08 <geonic> thank you plowsof11. makes my heart melt
00:20:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ive directed some films in my day
00:20:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Onlyfans)
00:20:48 <monerobull[m]1> It is a decent movie yes. Watching it you know the people behind it are very skilled 
00:21:13 <geonic> tx
00:21:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Geo
00:21:45 <geonic> hopefully more entertaining than Monero Means Money (though not as informative) :)
00:21:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Can you look into community edition?
00:22:01 <monerobull[m]1> I just can't get over the currently unclear licensing situation 😭
00:22:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Same film, clean licensed music etc, no Dolby 
00:22:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> You can definitely cross license stuff
00:22:45 <monerobull[m]1> Replace that one licensed song with more bear music if it fits.
00:23:03 <geonic> yes, right when he's dying. instead of the aria we'll throw some rap in there
00:23:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or just with a chant "fuck ofrnxmr"
00:23:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> And you can add some Monerochan cgi
00:23:19 <geonic> lol
00:23:27 <monerobull[m]1> Oh that was that song
00:23:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> To the strippers 
00:23:33 <geonic> yeah
00:23:33 <Siren[m]> geonic: Is this a spoiler?
00:23:43 <geonic> yes, the kid dies
00:23:53 <geonic> and his monero goes to his friend
00:24:01 <geonic> that's life
00:24:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Fuck... should... used... x.m........r"
00:24:24 <monerobull[m]1> geonic: Compensation for the trauma of being called gay
00:24:29 <geonic> lol, yes
00:24:39 <geonic> but in a nice way!
00:24:45 <Siren[m]> Sell meth locally instead, get XMR, safely cross the border
00:24:49 <geonic> I think it's my favorite line in the movie
00:25:11 <monerobull[m]1> Siren[m]: Where do you think the meth is worth more
00:25:15 <geonic> in terms of insults... that and shave your balls
00:25:23 <Siren[m]> monerobull[m]1: Ok sell it online then
00:25:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is that a yes or no on looking into cross licensing 
00:25:39 <geonic> looking into, yes. promising anything, no.
00:25:49 <monerobull[m]1> Siren[m]: My packages to France get inspected and i live in the eu
00:26:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> It can be licenced in USA 
00:26:09 <monerobull[m]1> Shipping drugs from Mexico to USA is a whole nother story
00:26:09 <Siren[m]> Honestly never ordered drugs that way
00:26:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> And available for free everywhere else
00:26:20 <Siren[m]> Buy some people probably get away with it
00:26:55 <monerobull[m]1> I saw a post on r/darknet mast week of a guy in LA ordering weed from Poland 😂
00:27:05 <monerobull[m]1> s/mast/last/
00:27:52 <geonic> idiot. there are dispensaries here with higher quality weed
00:27:56 <Siren[m]> There's a famous court case here where someone ordered a bunch of drugs online and the package got caught. They raided his house and took a look at his computer's browsing history. He looked up "Anonymous crypto", "Monero", "How to buy Monero", "localmonero.co"
00:28:18 <Siren[m]> * There's a famous court case here where someone ordered a bunch of drugs online and the package got caught. They raided his house and took a look at his computer's browsing history. The history had "Anonymous crypto", "Monero", "How to buy Monero", "localmonero.co".
00:28:34 <plowsof11> "why is my balance 0"
00:28:43 <monerobull[m]1> Darknet bible says you don't know about any packages ever
00:28:52 <Siren[m]> "How to convert my 25 word ledger seed into 24 words monero GUI"
00:29:33 <Siren[m]> Felt so surreal reading the court case and seeing localmonero and everything lol
00:29:55 <monerobull[m]1> Cash used to buy drugs 🤷‍♂️
00:30:08 <plowsof11> "how to clean btc using monero"
00:30:17 <monerobull[m]1> Send to cakewallet 
00:30:25 <monerobull[m]1> Exchange, exchange back
00:30:30 <plowsof11> "what does using monero as a condom mean" "who is ofrnxmr"
00:30:39 <Siren[m]> When will cake wallet add Maxima cards
00:30:41 <Siren[m]> I need food
00:30:43 <Siren[m]> Plox
00:30:52 <monerobull[m]1> Monerochan hentai
00:31:18 <Siren[m]> Does it exist?
00:31:25 <monerobull[m]1> Of course lol 
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00:32:15 <Siren[m]> 💀
00:32:16 <monerobull[m]1> We don't have anything with an actual storyline but we have images 
00:32:22 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: Nvm nothing really
00:32:44 <monerobull[m]1> You need the mega 😉
00:32:53 <Siren[m]> monerobull[m]1: You know you can always commission someone for a monero-chan doujinshi with a story line
00:33:06 <monerobull[m]1> You know we dont
00:33:16 <monerobull[m]1> We have ai for that now
00:33:38 <monerobull[m]1> We can generate both the storyline and the images 
00:33:57 <Siren[m]> No like someone can draw you a full blown comic
00:34:34 <monerobull[m]1> I know but we can also make it for way cheaper with ai
00:36:01 <monerobull[m]1> I'm sure chatgpt would even make image descriptions of the panels for you 
00:37:09 <merope> It can't process images though
00:37:12 <monerobull[m]1> We could also employ, uh, privateering tactics 
00:38:19 <monerobull[m]1> merope: Stable diffusion makes the images for you 
00:38:52 <monerobull[m]1> We even have a model trained on monerochan that's very good 
00:39:25 <monerobull[m]1> You can find examples of ai images at monerochan.io
00:39:30 <monerobull[m]1> Twisted turtle makes great ones 
00:41:38 <monerobull[m]1> Ok gn it's nearly 2 am
00:45:17 <alpharabius[m]> Ezest way to make xmr?
00:45:27 <alpharabius[m]> I need 2 buy kabob
00:46:00 <merope> Come on man, not again
00:46:31 <merope> Do you honestly expect a different answer from all the previous times you asked this question?
00:47:02 <merope> Stop asking and start doing
00:49:09 <alpharabius[m]> merope: Wut do
00:49:10 <alpharabius[m]> Is question
00:49:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Kick
00:49:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is answer
00:49:44 <plowsof11> global ban for alpharabius for begging? 
00:49:46 <merope> You start by scrolling up and finding the previous answers
00:49:54 <merope> Or using the search function 
00:50:15 <merope> Then you read what you found, and start doing it
00:50:15 <Siren[m]> alpharabius[m]: Work at a kebab shop
00:50:39 <Siren[m]> Brainwash the kebab shop owner into accepting monero 
00:50:47 <Siren[m]> So he pays you in monero too and other people can buy kebabs with monero 
00:50:49 <Siren[m]> Win win
00:51:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Oscar winning performance 
00:51:32 <Siren[m]> Wholesome movie plot
00:53:10 <RavFX[m]> I want to buy kabab with monero
00:53:55 <Siren[m]> Same
00:54:13 <Siren[m]> Though last time I tried ordering kebab remotely they cancelled my order
00:54:20 <Siren[m]> Then I tried ordering from another platform 
00:54:34 <Siren[m]> Then the owner called me saying sorry my fat finger accidentally pressed cancel
00:55:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im hungry now. Gonna go eat some meth
00:55:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Siren[m]: Big toe?
00:55:53 <Siren[m]> Now that looks like NFT art
00:56:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Fungus token 
01:02:03 <Siren[m]> There's a nazi monerochan https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8116622&tags=monero-chan+
01:03:14 <Siren[m]> Just why
01:12:38 <alpharabius[m]> <Siren[m]> "Just why" <- It's only right
01:14:18 <alpharabius[m]> Daß ğuđ
07:24:10 <DanIsnotthemanBr> i know there is a kebab shop in Melbourne that accepts xmr
11:42:09 <alpharabius[m]> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "i know there is a kebab shop..." <- In australia?
14:31:46 <andrea[m]1> Hello Monero Community,
14:31:46 <andrea[m]1> andrea here. I just want to share with you the paper _The war on privacy - or, Privacy as a Strategy for Liberty_. It was published in the _Italian Journal of Political Philosophy_ yesterday. Monero is mentioned. Of course, any feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy!!
14:31:46 <andrea[m]1> https://riviste.fupress.net/index.php/rifp/article/view/2025/1337
14:41:39 <xfedex[m]> > <@andrea_togni:matrix.org> Hello Monero Community,... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e8babb8776e59523a7c6494030b37b540868a32d>)
14:49:42 <andrea[m]1> Unfortunately, no, the paper is available only in English
16:16:15 <alpharabius[m]> Any musicians here?
16:18:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sup
18:45:21 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://btc-pulse.com/monero-has-a-new-concierge-delivery-service/
18:46:31 <geonic> andrea[m]1: very cool. posted in #monero-policy 
19:00:19 <as2333> https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=JvLbiZiBowk
19:00:49 <as2333> people in jewtube who know some philosophy - shocking
19:01:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> ?
19:02:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=AVpeZMLaliE
19:45:50 <plowsof11> we are allowed to see 15% of the movie in a none theatrical exhibition 
19:46:40 <plowsof11> e.g. internet transmission (without ruining oscar chances)
19:48:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sure
19:48:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> .. /s
19:49:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> 0 real investors would fund the marketing of a completed film without viewing it
19:51:10 <plowsof11> if the film wins an award (harder) then public exhibition does not apply 
19:51:17 <plowsof11> and it can be released without effecting eligibility for an oscar nomination 
19:51:40 <plowsof11> so we can get 15% without risk or 100% if the movie is going to win an award 
19:52:25 <plowsof11> 15% shold cover every monero related part
19:52:55 <plowsof11> plus time left over for the scene where keanu reeves is on the bus and if it slows down things end bad
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19:54:47 <as2333> ofrnxmr[m] that one is good too - thanks
19:54:51 <plowsof11> number 2 (the award) exempts it from needing to abide by the "do not release before oscars" rule
19:55:47 <plowsof11> images taken from live action short file rules https://www.oscars.org/oscars/rules-eligibility
19:58:41 <vikCake[m]> Hi all.. Join us for a Cake and Monero twitter space!   
19:58:42 <vikCake[m]> https://twitter.com/cakewallet/status/1618302058616225794?s=20&t=Pa9CL9fW01H4qjjVEQK4Gw
20:01:08 <geonic> plowsof11: yep, good catch
20:01:26 <plowsof11> i want the storming of normandy beach clip 
20:01:31 <geonic> I think your "misleading trailer" idea has some merit. we can have a second trailer (also permissively licensed) that makes it look like a "monero movie"
20:01:55 <geonic> that we can blast on social media or whatever :p
20:01:58 <plowsof11> a misleading trailer would actually be cool though lol
20:02:56 <geonic> <ofrnxmr[m]> 0 real investors would fund the marketing of a completed film without viewing it <- the donation page will have a mechanism for potential donors to view the film before donating
20:03:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Internet transmission clause bars that, no?
20:03:50 <geonic> no
20:03:55 <geonic> private links are fine
20:04:45 <geonic> you'll send an email to view the film before donating and you'll get a watermarked (but high-quality) link back
20:07:45 <plowsof11> Rucknium: am i the only one who RTFM?
20:08:32 <geonic> :D
20:10:56 <plowsof11> :P
20:11:39 <Rucknium[m]> R-ingTFM tends to get me into more trouble than not R-ingTFM. At least in Moneroland.
20:14:21 <plowsof11> true lol some context ^ Rucknium read the contribution manual? which said after a github issue has been solved, you close it - but the unwritten manual says you must leave it open
20:17:41 <Rucknium[m]> Also the Vulnerability Response Process, but that's another issue.
20:18:46 <plowsof11> ah the real context^ 
20:24:48 <DanIsnotthemanBr> <plowsof11> "Rucknium: am i the only one..." <- Destruction manual
22:55:39 <navlamyi[m]> Hi all, Yixi here, one of the Community Managers at Guarda Wallet. It's a pleasure to be here! 
22:58:55 <navlamyi[m]> On behalf of our Marketing team, I would like to know whom could I contact, to chat about collabs between our Communities 😊
22:59:44 * kinghat[m] points to ooOOOOoo
23:00:08 <Rucknium[m]> navlamyi: Is your Monero wallet fixed yet?
23:00:16 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 156: January 19 - 26, 2023. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-156.html
23:00:33 <Rucknium[m]> If you need technical support to get your Monero wallet working, go to #monero-dev:monero.social 
23:01:20 <navlamyi[m]> Rucknium[m]: I believe our team is still working on it. 🙏🏼
23:03:13 <plowsof11> @sgp hosts monero meets on youtube (among other things) - depends what collabs you are talking about. also, for sure fix your monero wallet first , we can add tick 'notify guarda wallet' off the list now https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/690 😀
23:04:48 <Rucknium[m]> navlamyi: Ok please seek assistance from #monero-dev:monero.social  for that. Your users haven't been able to send their Monero using your wallet for almost six months.
23:05:24 <Rucknium[m]> The network upgrade was mid-August 2022
23:09:38 <navlamyi[m]> <plowsof11> "@sgp hosts monero meets on..." <- Thanks, really appreciate it! We mainly host Twitter Spaces or Community calls via Telegram, I'll sure pass the suggested YouTube host info to my team. We are aware of the issue with Monero wallet, we as Community Managers try our best to assist users and provide them with solutions while our dev team fixes the problem. 
23:11:14 <navlamyi[m]> <Rucknium[m]> "navlamyi: Ok please seek..." <- Will do, and we look forward to having our wallet fixed. Thanks very much for your time and valuable information! 😊😊
23:11:24 <plowsof11> cakewallet hosted a twitter space today https://twitter.com/cakewallet/status/1618302058616225794?s=20&t=Pa9CL9fW01H4qjjVEQK4Gw
23:13:47 <plowsof11> ofrnxmr might be available to review your wallet 
23:20:29 <sgp[m]> <navlamyi[m]> "Hi all, Yixi here, one of the..." <- Welcome here to Matrix! Make sure to update the wallet to support Monero :)