08:43:50 Hiring Developers for Privacy-Focused Cloud Computing Startup - Earn Your Salary in Monero... (full message at ) 08:44:09 * Hiring Developers for Privacy-Focused Cloud Computing Startup - Earn Your Salary in Monero... (full message at ) 08:45:16 Tldr ? 08:45:31 Hiring Developers for Privacy-Focused Cloud Computing Startup - Earn Your Salary in Monero 08:45:39 Foss? 08:46:05 Definitely can be 08:46:27 #monero-community-dev:monero.social 08:46:34 Repost there 08:46:51 Thanks 11:18:13 Hello everyone! Here's a detailed storyboard based on the current script. 11:18:13 Please share your thoughts. 11:18:13 ATTENTION: this is not final illustrations, but a step before doing 3d scenes and animating them. After that, comes shading ('coloring with textures') and after that post-production, video-editing and voice/sfx 11:18:13 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/308#note_20599 13:19:54 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (20KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/BPpZEESxpDzCRkcytiTzoWZr/znmwb9bod98mz1vd.jpg > 13:20:26 What 13:20:35 The text 13:20:42 I haven't benefited from this shit, you guys brainwashed me and suck up all of my time 13:21:19 From the monero project? 13:21:30 please find balance monerobull 13:21:35 Whoever that it, I think they owe us 13:22:24 nioc: I'm obviously somewhat joking 13:22:41 "somewhat" 13:23:25 But saying the donors of the video benefited from Monero sounds like a pitch to a pyramid scheme 13:23:44 I only say because I have seen it before 13:24:25 What 13:24:42 people burn out 13:25:48 Don't worry, i don't have a lot of fun playing videogames anymore and there are no real hobbies i could pursue close to where i live 13:25:57 monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: the whole sentence is bad. 13:25:57 Its more like 13:25:57 Ths video series was created through the Monero zcommunity crowdfynding system 13:26:27 s/created/funded/ 13:27:16 "Who have themselves ..." never heard of sentence structure? 13:27:17 I get that it's supposed to show the people funding the video "benefit" from it but it reads like shit, just say it's funded by the community 13:27:31 * the community (ccs) 13:27:44 yes 13:27:46 Its probably a run-on sentence 13:27:58 But I dont know the correctcterm. Its wrong though 13:28:53 If Mr beast says this video is sponsored by raid shadow legends it should be obvious that both he and the company benefit from the video 13:28:54 "Anonymous donors who have themselves benefitted " << 🤕 13:29:01 * beast says "this video, * shadow legends" it 13:29:51 Disclaimer. We have many more slides to go 13:30:09 Would be a long day but im not doing the work 😅 13:31:55 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (36KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/qwYzILjTIAeCuhfoHbTyhzcn/8kliq2hdra35zmii.jpg > 13:33:05 It all reads like it went through deepl 13:33:13 Payments are not p2p, they go through an entire network 13:33:41 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (28KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/HbAxzwxbBCrteMUvgBGSuBAv/23vjw7f0f5vwg9os.jpg > 13:34:03 As said previously, thus illustration is incorrect and misleading 13:34:38 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (39KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/plyvXiFKCYkuinxKGVChLGCI/7rbgqok6n1p1lp6q.jpg > 13:35:06 0 value in anything said here. Vague as can be and meaningless to any listener 13:36:13 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (45KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/BaXanqUKbQScHNOpauOQfMNB/fvmc130s2qt9en0r.jpg > 13:36:51 Thus was said already and this isnt "reoitition", thus is just writing the samebthing badly twice 13:37:37 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (33KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/yOWpgRcRPftQyMHWnmWEkWGD/2p2xoka5p0bg4qh2.jpg > 13:37:39 Broken record 13:38:02 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (35KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/WXwTTPLhfRfOlKroKYmCOFIy/h7114774j3n2ztav.jpg > 13:38:20 Didnt you just say there were no middlemen? 13:39:13 "8kliq2hdra35zmii.jpg" <- Here 13:39:15 This is terrible 13:39:25 Tell me about it 13:39:33 How much did that raise 13:39:43 8000usd 13:40:01 400/min 13:40:01 Geomin =625/min 13:40:05 Geonic 13:40:25 They wanted 1000/min for this trash fire 13:40:25 We could have funded a minute of monerochan anime with that 13:40:28 By an actual japanese studio 13:41:16 I just said to plowsof, real animators get paid less and make fuck TV shows 13:41:36 I need to make a ccs 13:41:42 This is terrible 13:41:55 I provide actual value 😭 13:42:00 Making me want to hire some 12 year old to paint on rocks for Monero ccs 13:42:47 As a subcontractor 13:42:55 So you can pocket some free funds 13:43:25 Lmao. Maybe im being mean and the scriptwriter is 12, 14:32:50 im assuming the text in the new concepts are placeholders , the actual script 1 is under development 14:33:20 ofrnxmr: monerobull you can provide feedback by adding comments on Reddit and GitLab, so everyone can see them and get the community's thoughts together. The storyboard is a draft to discuss each of the scenes/concepts. There are many steps in the animation video production. Especially when everyone from the community has a vote on it. When I was creating those video series for Monero 5 years ago, we discussed everything in 14:33:20 comments on Reddit predominantly 14:33:21 While an interesting insight into a set of noxious psyches and a striking demonstration of destructive feedback, this is obstructing the process of getting useful comments. Now the original post is buried far back. 14:34:16 savandra[m]: The final look of each scenes will be close to the renders we shared previously. 14:34:55 dsmlegend[m]: Well this is a chatroom 14:34:55 It's a very complex process feedback-wise. In those series years ago we even covered the Ring Signatures concept 14:35:01 nothing will be buried, and ill put points on the agenda of the next community meeting ~ which is not this sat, but next hm 14:36:00 'reducing the part about community sponsoring the videos in script 1' can be addressed 14:36:50 savandra is the community logo going to be built block by block or something 👀 14:40:20 1. The 3D concepts we shared before is the look of every frame 14:40:20 2. There are lot's of placeholders on the board. 14:40:20 You should see that as a rough presentation of what exactly will be in the frame 14:40:20 This is a usual pipeline for the 3D animations. We brought frame ideas for the potential discussions and getting feedback on the concepts 14:40:47 the text in orange + concept above is what we're providing feedback to here? 14:41:50 right 14:41:52 these are very creative ideas. will the community logo be built block by block? 14:42:40 There will be no people only behind the blocks 14:42:59 like, all the video is in isometric 3D style with some rotations on transitions 14:44:19 You have to understand, that everything would like exactly in this style, but applied to those drafts 14:44:22 Is the eye monster in jail still there 14:45:26 the eye monster is ecoteric trivia now and shall replace the pineapple for monerokon 2024 14:45:44 monerobull[m]1: I don't see the point in providing comments if you havn't looked though it 14:45:46 it 14:45:58 there's very much info and 35 pages 14:45:59 the concepts/text in orange is creative, i think we can agree 14:46:20 savandra[m]: Same Argument as movie ccs 14:46:20 and a huge improvement on the eye 😁 14:46:40 I saw the eye monster. Why shouldn't I be allowed to comment on it 15:44:12 savandra i wonder if you could put the monero community logo as a 2~ second intor to every video with #Sponsored by the monero community' text - then we never have to hear anything about who/what/why they have been sponsored. i droped this suggestion on gitlab for dsmlegends script 1 18:08:31 Nanopool out here leaving tx in the pool 18:08:34 Shitheads 20:08:58 ofrnxmr[m]: do they refuse to fix it? 20:12:10 I have contacted them, still awaiting a response 21:05:59 with Rust making the headlines again recently, and alot of monero-wallet-rpc hate around today, i'd like to once again share https://github.com/busyboredom/acceptxmr , a payment gateway written in rust , that does not use wallet-rpc . and does not require a blockexplorer (like xmrchain) any remote node can be used to find payments that belong to you view-only wallet 21:09:35 briefly my suggestion is to officially vote on xmrsale being 'abandonware'. then decide what to do with the 30 xmr. my suggestion is to put it into xmrsale (with a 80/20 split - 24 for 'usability++/and features e.g. 1 plugin , then 6 for maintenance) , i would like to discuss/resolve at the next meeting. but firstly we would have to decide its abandonned at a meeting, more info here https://github.com/plowsof/ccs-wip-list/issues/1 21:11:18 Who is xmrsale 21:12:03 "As an anonymous developer" aka not a member of community? 21:12:36 Under xmrsale or any other alias? Aka its a member of the community who made an alt to scam? 21:12:39 Close it 21:13:07 You confusingly wrote: " my suggestion is to put it into xmrsale (with a 80/20 split" You mean put it into *acceptxmr*, as per linked issue 21:13:12 Sgp yacht fund will be fuply funded soon 21:13:38 ah yes thanks rbrunner, i definitely meant acceptxmr* xD 21:14:23 but that is just my suggestion* ive talked briefly with busboredom and they are on-board to work with us to get something useful out of those remaining moneros 21:14:24 Monero airplane fund 21:14:38 Moneroplane 21:14:42 yeah screw a yacht I want a jet now 21:14:47 I like that moon mission 21:15:09 http://lunarbuildprize.org/monero-moon-prize/ 21:15:29 I say we open a ccs got SGP plane fund and see what happens 21:15:32 For* 21:16:19 Who knows, maybe bezos drops a few million on it 21:16:25 Then we can fly in style, like fluffy 21:17:16 (I kid, I kid) I wonder if fluffy has a jet 21:18:10 i wonder how many* jets he has 21:19:40 Or jack dorsey 21:26:37 https://youtu.be/H-_Qe-53VEE 21:27:10 FUCKFUCK 21:27:11 it leaked 21:27:13 Please pay me $400/hr 21:27:23 Wasnt supposed to come out until AFTER my ccs 21:27:46 That was fire styll 21:27:51 In breach of copyright 21:28:10 Opensource movie now 21:28:44 fierce and cute :) 21:29:41 i like the hissing part 21:30:14 i thought good voice synthesys was still being worked on but this is scary good already 21:30:58 Rucknium will you be using something similar for your possible Monerokon talk? 21:31:24 that would be cool 21:31:28 use the monerochan voice 21:31:40 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: at monerotopia 21:32:22 "hi there cuties, today we will be talking about Optimal Static Parametric Estimation of Arbitrary Distributions (OSPEAD) for the Monero decoy selection algorithm" 21:32:47 Sounds like a trap 21:35:12 * monerobull[m]1 uploaded an audio file: (93KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/AroSvkqwCDpEMZvXYHLCAgFB/synthesized_audio%20(1).mp3 > 21:35:13 oh god 21:35:30 Rucknium: 21:35:38 it's perfect 21:36:22 Did it just synthesis the voice or did it type that? 21:36:34 i typed that 21:36:54 Can youbwrite scripts? 21:37:01 I might have a job for you 21:37:06 using chatgpt you can 21:37:21 Can chatgpt fix scripts? 21:37:31 oh of course 21:37:46 as long as it doesnt need precise technical knowledge about the topic id say 21:38:09 so if you just want the script to read better 21:38:10 i see what you did there 21:38:11 Yeah 21:38:18 Just fix my sentences please 21:43:34 * monerobull[m]1 uploaded an audio file: (453KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/VqzPyKTpVZkeQykOulOpgSve/synthesized_audio%20(3).mp3 > 21:44:42 ofrnxmr: here 21:46:23 ok now i want to join the Monero community 21:46:39 Good god, how can anybody listen to that 21:46:49 It's so annoying 21:47:07 merope: The script or the voice? 21:47:09 (Yes I am fun at parties) 21:47:12 The voice 21:47:21 Is the script good now? 21:47:24 The words didn't even register in my head 21:47:38 Lmao 21:47:44 Story of the original script as well 21:48:20 merope: good thing you can upload a 1 minute clip and have it read out in your voice 21:48:28 But this does sound a lot better 21:48:31 A lot 21:48:46 monerobull[m]1: or morgan freemans voice 21:48:55 Or fluffy's :D 21:49:06 or fluffys 21:49:06 monerobull[m]1: Get it to use my voice 21:49:12 I give Monerobull permission to pull my voice from the moneromeet 21:49:24 i dont feel like downloading the moneromeet and cutting out your voice 21:49:50 Why? You can save as your ringtone 21:50:02 kek 21:50:11 should i tell chatgpt to "do the uwu voice" 21:51:02 we can have the ECB woman shill monero 21:55:31 Most of the voices in open source voice synthesizers are female. 21:56:21 you can use your real voice, we wouldnt know 😂 21:56:55 You can use mine and be my 16th alt 21:58:17 i am not sure but i think it doesnt care about the language you speak 21:59:17 💡 22:00:02 take voice directly from anime to mimic 22:00:25 ill try that 22:04:27 some other time, im going to bed 22:05:01 Gn 22:09:38 "(I kid, I kid) I wonder if..." <- who is richer? fluffy or desnake? or someone else? Who is the largest holder of XMR? I think DeSnake has earned the most XMR just based on speculated volume of AB? but early XMR miners are probably whales or were whales too 22:09:56 I am the largest 22:10:11 king ofrnxmr 22:10:20 Louder 22:10:27 i know we have ct so nobody knows for sure haha 22:10:40 Your sense of humor has grown on me 22:10:50 Haha thanks lolol 22:11:06 keeps me honest 22:16:56 What's the consensus here on the legitimacy of the new AB? At the start is seemed like everyone agreed it was likely a honeypot, but it's gaining a lot of notoriety now. 22:18:02 AB? 22:18:07 Oh 22:18:54 I just sell drugs on Facebook 🤷‍♂️ 22:19:02 Sorry, reusing the acronym 'cause fr33_yourself used it a few minutes ago. 22:19:03 Like normal folk 22:20:43 BusyBoredom[m]: I think it's probably legit. But from my investigation it looks like mostly for drugs and cc fraud. 22:21:25 I'm kind of miffed that desnake lets people expropriate other boomers via credit card over his site 22:21:38 BusyBoredom[m]: r/darknet is like "use pgp, dont keep coins on the platform and youre good either way" 22:21:41 drug market is consistent with non-agression principle though 22:22:11 Last i checked the hidden service was down 22:22:36 There was a period of time around november of last year where dread and all the big markets were down due to ddos 22:22:37 it really doesnt matter if the infrastructure is run by the CIA if you use pgp 22:22:46 is dread back up yet? 22:22:54 about to 22:23:25 how much do you think it costs to set up a site like AB? 22:23:38 I keep hoping one of these DNMs will start selling normal household stuff so I can satisfy my darknet boner without starting a drug habbit 😂 22:23:54 Obviously desnake must be a pretty technically savvy individual to have sufficient OPSEC, security and making his website usable 22:24:09 from two days ago 22:24:10 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----... (full message at ) 22:24:15 it costs quite a bit i would imagine 22:24:22 you need to run multiple tor relays yourself 22:24:44 and have servers in multiple locations if you can 22:24:47 Yeah I was shocked that next to no other goods trade on these onion sites than drugs and card fraud 22:24:59 and everything gives off super scammy vibes 22:25:16 Probs 'cause 99% of it is scams unfortunately 22:25:29 yep 22:25:50 it seems like a pretty fragile business model, but lucrative if you get enough volume in the short term 22:26:15 because all it takes is usps starting to more seriously search mail and a lot of these markets breakdown 22:26:29 russia's system of dead drops and escrow services is quite interesting 22:28:20 youd have to do city-specific markets i guess 22:28:20 or more vendors 22:29:24 I wonder how long it will take for Markets that ship goods for XMR to be cheaper than Amazon? Like eventually taxes and regulations will tip the scales to favor free market activity, but I think this could take sometime to elapse 22:30:20 Like don't you think Monero is here somewhat a bit early to the scene and that because it is cheaper and easier for average joe to continue to be the "slow-boiling frog" they will use centralized companies as they can produce cheaper at scale? 22:33:40 Monero won't fix megacorps, economies of scale affect monero-based endeavors just as much as fiat-based ones. I don't think amazon will get replaced, amazon will just start accepting monero. 22:34:05 economics of scale are how monerosupplies.com is possible 22:34:18 at a very small scale :P 22:35:54 Is that your site monerobull? Very slick 22:37:45 I see, so Monero will be a pretty fringe thing then for quite a while 22:38:41 Hah? 22:39:14 Amazon will start accepting Monero, somehow concludes monero is fringe 22:39:34 Idk, I think monero could really take off adoption wise if we can reduce scanning time and make vendor integrations easier. It doesn't have to fix the whole economy, it just has to be better than venmo. 22:40:13 Reduce syncing time* 22:40:16 why do you think amazon will start to accept it 22:40:29 too big of an accounting and regulatory headache for them imo 22:41:50 Amazon accepts popular payment methods in general, because those are the payment methods their customers like. 22:41:50 If people like using monero enough, amazon will accept monero. They're not in the business of turning away money. 22:44:32 "Is that your site monerobull..." <- its not very pretty but it works 22:46:01 I wish Alibaba group as a whole started accepting XMR 22:46:47 Would have been easier to buy ATM parts with the donations :/ 22:51:42 amazon-NSA accepting monero seems very very unlikely 23:09:16 https://monero.observer/monero-observer-blitz-january-2023/ 23:28:15 I need CCP's amazon to accept monero 23:34:25 ok i made another video 23:34:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vyHj4VKn8