00:56:53 <chesterfield[m]> <Siren[m]> "IMG20230209225321.jpg" <- R/bitcoiner:0, xmr sticker:1
01:00:18 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 158: February 2 - 9, 2023. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-158.html
08:37:41 <bridgerton[m]> <monerobull> test
08:37:53 <sech1> test good
09:00:28 <monerobull[m]> bridge down for a bit
09:03:14 <bridgerton[m]> <monerobull> test2
09:03:19 <monerobull[m]> works
09:34:34 <binaryFate> I'll publish a GF transparency report on Monday
09:34:49 <binaryFate> spoiler alert, it's not as controversial as the last one ^^
09:35:11 <plowsof11> nice 
09:42:28 <monerobull[m]> boring is good
09:43:51 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Makes it interesting
14:27:20 <RavFX[m]> LBC contacts are pouring on localmonero!
14:27:21 <RavFX[m]> Good job 😂
14:30:02 <plowsof11> what does LBC mean sirs
14:31:39 <RavFX[m]> Localbitcoins
14:32:41 <plowsof11> ohh nice 🚀 definitely a better home for LBC refugees 
14:32:41 <plowsof11> sechs 1$ never forget 
14:36:55 <sech1> it was $1 in better times, now it's like 50 cents
16:02:00 <Morpheus[m]> Trocador.app integrated LocalMonero
16:02:01 <Morpheus[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10yqjk3/now_you_can_buy_monero_with_eth_ltc_and_btc_on/
16:02:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Gamechanger 
16:03:26 <Morpheus[m]> Thanks, bro 
16:21:38 <RavFX[m]> It's that thing when you withdraw, that allow you to withdraw into another crypto? Noticed it yesterday. That's going to be useful for the LBC refugees.
16:24:22 <RavFX[m]> Oh, you added localmonero to trocador too, neat
16:40:44 <nioc> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/selsta-8.html
18:58:28 <still_stuck[m]> What is the function with which hash rate scales with thread number?
19:04:53 <still_stuck[m]>  * What is the function according to which hash rate scales with thread number?
19:22:28 <selsta> still_stuck[m]: can you rephrase?
19:26:13 <xfedex[m]> <still_stuck[m]> "What is the function with..." <- Usually hashrate per thread slightly decreases as you increase number of threads
19:27:10 <xfedex[m]> when threads > number_cores then hashrate drops significantly
19:27:26 <xfedex[m]> on most CPUs best hashrate is given by the number of cores
19:27:41 <xfedex[m]> *threads = CPU cores
19:27:58 <xfedex[m]> which is xmrig default thread settings
19:30:23 <nioc> Also need 2 MB L3 cache per thread used for mining
21:08:16 <still_stuck[m]> <selsta> "still_stuck: can you rephrase?" <- How does hash rate exactly scale with an increasing number of threads, was the question. Because, I saw while locally mining that say 1 thread equaled about 0.07 kH/s while 4 went above 1.5, meaning it increases nonlinearly?
21:08:47 <still_stuck[m]> <xfedex[m]> "Usually hashrate per thread..." <- Yes, that is my understand of the general mechanics too, was just wondering about what I mentioned above, this might be some configuration related thing though.
21:08:47 <selsta> this does not seem right
21:09:06 <still_stuck[m]> s/understand/understanding/
21:09:07 <still_stuck[m]> selsta: It should increase linearly?
21:09:08 <selsta> what CPU are you using?
21:10:16 <xfedex[m]> still_stuck[m]: No, not lineraly but almost linearly
21:10:44 <still_stuck[m]> xfedex[m]: Hm, ok!
21:10:55 <still_stuck[m]> thx for answer :]
21:37:22 <cockliuser[m]> <xfedex[m]> "when threads > number_cores then..." <- Don't most CPUs have 2 threads per core? 
21:38:20 <cockliuser[m]> Or is it just that running 1 job per core is better for hashrate? 
21:56:43 <nioc> 1 thread per core gives higher HR per thread
21:58:18 <nioc> I have a CPU with limited L3 cache 6 cores / 12 threads
22:00:13 <nioc> from fuzzy memory 1 thread per core = ~750H/s per thread  when I add 2 more threads those additional threads = ~450H/s
22:00:52 <nioc> 16MB L3 cache
22:01:43 <nioc> might be an issue with the last thread not getting enough cache
22:55:50 <spacefreedom[m]> <nioc> "https://ccs.getmonero.org/..." <- bumping
22:58:11 <nioc> spacefreedom[m]: due to the limitations of the IRC bridge your quote is truncated for IRC users so I will help you and repost the link
22:58:27 <nioc> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/selsta-8.html
23:05:42 <spacefreedom[m]> <BusyBoredom[m]> "I don't totally buy the need for..." <- Just that Tor has, for the entire world, about 6000 relays according to metrics currently running. An incentive structure and popularity flywheel for any type of project like this would create a more robust network at the expense of not everyone being able to access it if they can't pay some XMR fee, or NYM in this case as an example. I think that the main problem is
23:05:42 <spacefreedom[m]> here that most modern "web surfers" are not accustomed to the fact that similarly to any type of service, if you will want to use a quality service on the internet, you will have to pay for it, because you are the product otherwise. 
23:05:59 <spacefreedom[m]> > <@busyboredom:monero.social> I don't totally buy the need for them to have a token. Tor and I2P have been doing fine for decades without one
23:05:59 <spacefreedom[m]>  * Just that Tor has, for the entire world, about 6000 relays according to Tor Metrics, currently running. An incentive structure and popularity flywheel for any type of project like this would create a more robust network at the expense of not everyone being able to access it if they can't pay some XMR fee, or NYM in this case as an example. I think that the main problem is here that most modern "web surfers" are not
23:05:59 <spacefreedom[m]> accustomed to the fact that similarly to any type of service, if you will want to use a quality service on the internet, you will have to pay for it, because you are the product otherwise.
23:30:31 <spacefreedom[m]> <Stnby[m]> "Literally the only place I..." <- If you want to donate, check opencollective, a decent amount of teams support XMR. 
23:30:50 <spacefreedom[m]> * to donate to anything, check