12:48:13 <Siren[m]> https://codeberg.org/pluja/nerostr
12:48:14 <Siren[m]> I can see how this can be adapted to have paid services on nostr
12:48:20 <Siren[m]> Good job
13:21:49 <Siren[m]> When can we expect Seraphis to be merged?
13:22:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> After all the code is reviewed
13:22:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> And Sir, we still need to decide, it is an address? Or a deposit id?
13:22:31 <Siren[m]> Yeah but what ETA?
13:22:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> And do not kidding sir. Is it a purse or a wallet?
13:22:41 <Siren[m]> Lmao
13:22:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im dead seriois
13:22:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dm
13:23:04 <plowsof11> 10 years ish
13:23:04 <Rucknium[m]> Do not ask for an ETA. It will just lead to disappointment
13:23:48 <Siren[m]> That's holding me back from rewriting the wallet rpc server
13:24:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> At least 2 years
13:24:29 <Rucknium[m]> Maybe in 1-2 years. Could be longer. The math in Seraphis hasn't been proven yet by the way.
13:24:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> With current workforce  
13:25:44 <plowsof11> we're not moving to zksnarks because it hasnt been battle tested 
13:26:31 <Stnby[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Purse?
13:26:31 <Rucknium[m]> plowsof: Now you're just parroting my opinion
13:26:59 <Rucknium[m]> Stnby: Billfold. Final offer.
13:27:25 <Stnby[m]> Wtf, whats next a bra?
13:27:25 <Siren[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I thought 24/25 spammed this but turns out this was a legit question from someone
13:27:31 <Siren[m]> Rename it to bra, period.
13:27:47 <Siren[m]> Storing money in bra is private and secure
13:27:54 <Siren[m]> Your purse can get stolen
13:27:59 <Siren[m]> Your wallet can get stolen
13:28:05 <Siren[m]> Ain't nobody stealing your bra
13:28:18 <plowsof11> responding in parallel is more efficient  
13:28:28 <Stnby[m]> Bra, less characters
13:31:11 <plowsof11> Rucknium is leading the donor or donator debate panel 
13:31:30 <plowsof11> the purse vs wallet think tank as already decided but others are on going
13:31:42 <chesterfield[m]> I think you should rewrite wallet-rpc today with seraphis in mind
13:34:36 <Lovera[m]> It’s super bad that Ledger still doesn’t show properly integrated addresses! Today after a long time I have send XMR from my ledger to FixedFloat and the address ledger shows is completely different from the reception address. This is bad for many users… If you want to make sure that you send correctly you must verify through llcoins or Feather wallet also show you the “real address”
13:34:36 <Lovera[m]> What is the problem from ledger? 🤬 difficult to fix it? Exactly 2 years ago I had the same problem. I thought it was already solved.
13:35:50 <Siren[m]> I think people are not supposed to use integrated addresses 
13:35:54 <plowsof11> can add https://monerotech.info/Home/Address from rbrunner7 to the list 😁
13:36:13 <plowsof11> i think it is considered to be "ledgers problem" not ours 
13:36:45 <Lovera[m]> plowsof11: Absolutely 
13:37:14 <plowsof11> it is a horrible experience seeing another address (especially as a noob who has taken steps in good faith to secure their crypto)
13:37:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> <plowsof11> "the purse vs wallet think tank..." <- What was the verdict?
13:37:45 <Lovera[m]> Siren[m]: Good point! But  any way they need to fixes it 😅
13:38:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think it was completely broken for trezor or ledger after hf
13:39:32 <Siren[m]> plowsof11: What's this abomination 💀 https://monerotech.info/Home/Download
13:40:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Windows and prop and alpha 
13:41:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its not even April 
13:41:21 <Rucknium[m]> It is good that we have devs using Windows since many users use Windows.
13:41:27 <Lovera[m]> Siren[m]: Well, this site is very useful to learn how addrssses works in Monero. You don’t need to put your seed and for safer run it in your pc
13:41:34 <Lovera[m]> Using windows
13:41:36 <Lovera[m]> 😅
13:41:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im glad I have no contributions to be criticized. Dodged a bullet
13:43:12 <Siren[m]> >Windows
13:43:12 <Siren[m]> >Proprietary
13:43:12 <Siren[m]> No
13:43:23 <plowsof11> windows developers can get support in #monero-community-dev:monero.social (please dont)
13:44:24 <plowsof11> i started as a windows dev intern yesterday, i've learned about "/" and "\\" and how to add an exclusion folder 
13:44:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> To be honest #xmrmine:matrix.org probably has a lot of windows folks
13:44:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> I get fired as a windows dev bcuz I always accidentally install linux
13:56:54 <plowsof11> are people using windows to mine monero for better UX or 'drivers' or something giving 'more hashes' i wonder 
13:57:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> More hashes 
13:58:28 <plowsof11> not a 'monero specific' problem, across the board windows is king for mining crypto? 
13:59:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think so ^. GPU miners like windows too 
13:59:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Easier overclocking with gui tools etc
14:00:23 <bit_thanos[m]> I wouldn't be surprised if Windows mined Monero deep in the background :D
14:00:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> But they also use all sorts of proprietary stuff to mine 
14:01:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not sure which, if any, of the actively developed popular miners for GPUs are open source 
14:01:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Aside from xmrig*
14:03:09 <plowsof11> i loved proprietary graphics drivers for gaming on linux back in the day (the open source ones where very bad) 
14:04:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Amd should work out if the box for games in lastest releases, they open sourced their drivers a while back
14:04:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> And come included in the kernals now
14:05:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> I wonder who's going to work on the daemon for seraphis 
14:06:55 <plowsof11> ill have to read up on the whole "nortan is shipping their own crypto miner" - im not sure how that went
14:07:16 <plowsof11> is there now ./seraphid yet?
14:08:07 <plowsof11> "NortonLifeLock to End Antivirus Crypto-Mining Due to Ethereum Merge" lol
14:08:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> Norton did talk about adding a miner to their av
14:08:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof11: Nope
14:09:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Still trying to figure out if we should call it seraphis or serachan
14:09:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Left angles only. Ill personally make sure of it
14:13:39 <plowsof11> migrating to seraphis is on FeatherWallets radar at least https://featherwallet.org/ideas/
14:16:32 <plowsof11> valldrac making progress with https://github.com/mollyim/monero-wallet-sdk 
14:16:33 <plowsof11> i hope there will be a "how to prepare for seraphis migration" manual somewhere 
14:34:38 <Siren[m]> <plowsof11> "i loved proprietary graphics..." <- Nvidia is open source now after the hack 
17:03:39 <rbrunner> "What's this abomination 💀 monerotech.info/Home/Download" Now I am offended.
17:11:44 <selsta> rbrunner: I like the simple design
17:14:08 <selsta> or did Siren[m] mean the desktop app specifically? I didn't try that
17:14:38 <plowsof11> im trying to find the PR rbrunner reviewed using the monerotech wallet, really useful 
17:15:33 <rbrunner> selsta: Yes, the app is an abomination, because closed source, because Windows, and because beta :)
17:15:51 <selsta> oh ok I thought we are talking about the web design lol
17:16:02 <rbrunner> plowsof11: Not sure what you mean. How can you find a PR with a wallet?
17:16:07 <plowsof11> this comment here showing how useful TechWallet is : https://github.com/rbrunner7/monero/pull/4#issuecomment-1356763545 
17:16:41 <plowsof11> for 'testing' things 
17:16:59 <rbrunner> Ah, you mean sending transactions in sequence to yourself? Yeah, that's quite handy.
17:17:31 <plowsof11> jberman had to spend a day(s) explaining / holding my hand to repeat these steps to review the PR 
17:18:10 <rbrunner> Well, I am sure you learn a ton of things, and the next thing will already come easier
17:21:33 <plowsof11> my learning exists only in ram 
19:01:07 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Eprom
20:17:25 <sgp[m]> btc is closing in fast 😂 https://twitter.com/cakewallet/status/1626314271767371781
20:59:30 <Siren[m]> <sgp[m]> "btc is closing in fast 😂 https:/..." <- Please add Maxima giftcards. Maybe if you ask they will provide you with an API. Even if they don't you can manually restock and that completely allowed. Where I work mass buy these cards.
20:59:35 <Siren[m]> * Please add Maxima giftcards. Maybe if you ask they will provide you with an API. Even if they don't you can manually restock and that's completely allowed. Where I work mass buy these cards.
21:03:16 <sgp[m]> Siren[m]: I'm emailing maxima.ee right now :)
21:03:57 <plowsof11> is maxima a wholesale store? what about ALDI and LIDL sir???
21:05:09 <Siren[m]> sgp[m]: Can you email maxima.lt instead?
21:05:18 <Siren[m]> plowsof11: Are lidl cards valid everywhere or are they country bound?
21:05:24 <Siren[m]> Lidl cards would also be great
21:05:31 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> damn btc is going down
21:05:40 <Siren[m]> But afaik lidl only has physical gift cards
21:05:58 <plowsof11> oooo good Q - i dunno (i have only use Aldi cards and theyre awesome)
21:06:00 <Siren[m]> And you need to request them from the cashier, can't simply grab a bunch and go ;(
21:06:13 <Siren[m]> They might find it suspicious 
21:06:26 <plowsof11> aldi has physical yes mine was delivered (very sus)
21:06:46 <plowsof11> but they have digital ones too
21:06:51 <Siren[m]> O
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21:07:20 <sgp[m]> Siren: look good?
21:07:55 <Siren[m]> Yes, thank you!
21:08:02 <sgp[m]> sent
21:08:18 <plowsof11> Nice!
21:08:31 <plowsof11> "You can order online and email them directly to the recipient. Once you have them, print them off and take them into any Aldi store." i love aldi sirs
21:08:58 <Stnby[m]> sgp[m]: Looks amazing
21:09:14 <xmrscott[m]> <Siren[m]> "Nvidia is open source now..." <- Their userspace parts of drivers are still proprietary as is the FreeBSD drivers whereas AMD and Intel's are open source
21:09:22 <sgp[m]> plowsof11: Aldi in the US is 33% great deal products, 33% terrible quality products, 33% completely random products
21:09:44 <plowsof11> it sounds perfect!
21:11:05 <plowsof11> brb going to aldi, come home with 1 euro lasagne, an electric screw driver and some flowers
21:12:28 <plowsof11> sells alcohol too 😮
21:14:10 <Siren[m]> in here you can't buy alcohol with gift cards
21:14:13 <Siren[m]> ;(
21:15:33 <Stnby[m]> Nor tobacco
21:15:39 <plowsof11> here they have 2 cards.. one is alcohol and the other not 👎️
21:16:13 <plowsof11> boycott aldi giftcards 
21:18:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Girlcott 💢
21:40:21 <Siren[m]> XMR was 165 then I blinked and now it's 158
21:40:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its because of one horse wagon
21:41:09 <Siren[m]> is this a pun
21:41:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> The user :P 
21:45:53 <plowsof11> price talk agnositc 💢 
21:46:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> This is not about tx extra
21:46:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Read top to bottom sir
21:49:14 <geonic> I think Siren is low-key begging for a few more piconeros to make his weekly weed order
21:50:01 <geonic> or maybe that aldi gift card purchase :p
21:50:58 <Siren[m]> Nah
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21:51:01 <Siren[m]> I got a display over there
21:51:13 <Siren[m]> Thought my eyes were glitching
21:51:28 <geonic> damn that looks obnoxious. would hurt my eyes
21:51:47 <geonic> just set it to 1 XMR = 1 XMR
21:52:07 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Gov correction
21:52:26 <Siren[m]> It's a true 64x64 pixel display
21:52:46 <Siren[m]> Not a normal screen displaying pixel art
21:52:52 <geonic> nice
21:53:17 <Siren[m]> Don't mind the euros 🤮
21:53:24 <Siren[m]> Was playing with some toys
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21:55:24 <plowsof11> a euro cannon for the monerokon audience nice
21:55:26 <Stnby[m]> I had to fly with this thing in my backpack ^
21:55:33 <geonic> edit0r!@#
22:00:16 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 159: February 9 - 16, 2023. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-159.html
22:03:41 <nioc> I accept euros 
22:09:22 <geonic> that mp4 won't load for me :|
22:10:13 <plowsof11> video taken from waist height in landscape pointing down at a euro dispenser going brrrrrrr one way and then brrrrrr the other way
22:10:38 <XMRPriest[m]> <Siren[m]> "IMG20230216235027.jpg" <- Did you make that? 
22:10:50 <XMRPriest[m]> Where can I get one haha
22:11:50 <geonic> five star review
22:13:36 <Siren[m]> XMRPriest[m]: it's divoom 64 with cryptocurrency display mode thingy
22:26:08 <chesterfield[m]> <Siren[m]> "it's divoom 64 with cryptocurren..." <- 😮 
22:26:09 <chesterfield[m]> I want but don’t need
22:26:56 <Siren[m]> it's great as an alarm clock too
22:27:15 <Siren[m]> thanks to it I don't need wake-up.sh
22:27:18 <chesterfield[m]> It has sound?
22:27:28 <Siren[m]> it has a very loud buzzer
22:27:39 <chesterfield[m]> 😆
22:28:13 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: ```sh... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/af1d0b552ec52a485dcea02947146b0b61c5a761>)
22:28:48 <XMRPriest[m]> <Siren[m]> "it's divoom 64 with cryptocurren..." <- How much it cost and where did you buy it ? 
22:28:55 <Stnby[m]> chesterfield[m]: It is very easy to hack onto it, its basically esp32 inside, but even the api is pretty cool
22:29:13 <chesterfield[m]> Ah cool.  Does it just run one script at a time
22:29:26 <chesterfield[m]> I’ll have to just read the docs
22:29:28 <Stnby[m]> XMRPriest[m]: https://divoom.com/products/pixoo-64
22:29:56 <Siren[m]> chesterfield[m]: rn it's displaying monero rate but if it's time for the alarm it will go ahead and earrape me
22:30:11 <Stnby[m]> I bought 2 xD one 64 one 32 but 64 is far better as its wifi connected
22:30:14 <Siren[m]> and will return back to monero rate mode after I press a button or use the app
22:30:47 <chesterfield[m]> Will it give all my network information to the Chinese by default
22:31:50 <Siren[m]> yeah
22:31:51 <Stnby[m]> YES
22:32:01 <Siren[m]> it does send packets with your SSID and BSSID
22:32:23 <Stnby[m]> also very chinese app to control it
22:32:37 <chesterfield[m]> Based
22:32:38 <Siren[m]> Stnby[m]: you don't need it 
22:32:39 <Stnby[m]> Siren[m]: https://github.com/jurjevic/pixoo64
22:33:07 <chesterfield[m]> Holy shit I lost all my Nero’s within 3 seconds of downloading the app
22:33:17 <chesterfield[m]> Thank you 🙏
22:33:33 <Stnby[m]> I think it would be doable to write/flash custom firmware as its esp32
22:33:40 <chesterfield[m]> I got cute pixoos now though
22:44:45 <XMRPriest[m]> <Siren[m]> "it's great as an alarm clock too" <- Are you able to change the background?
22:45:05 <Siren[m]> yeah
22:45:59 <XMRPriest[m]> Okay bet i think I’ll buy one, I definitely don’t need it but would be cool for my room