00:23:47 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Bloatware inbound
00:26:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> #dontsell
00:26:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> The slimeballs will think we'll paper hand 
00:26:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> But we'll moneron anyway. Bloated blocks or not
00:26:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> s/moneron/monerun/
00:31:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Wonder what size hdd you will need in the future if it gets hammered with nfts
00:32:24 <plowsof11> my pi with external usb hdd will struggle 
00:33:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Prune tx_extra
00:44:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Castrate*
00:54:31 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Dynamic tx_extra
00:56:55 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Is this good that monero has nfts and how does it affect
00:59:26 <nioc> yes having wotrhless shit is good
01:00:01 <nioc> ofrnxmr[m]: I finally started to read MRL starting from Wed's meeting
01:01:50 <nioc> I got about 15 minutes in and gave up
01:06:43 <plowsof11> well done nioc, i will read the next 15 minutes 
01:07:10 <nioc> I didn't read for 15 minutes
01:07:34 <nioc> I read till the first 15 minute timestamp 
01:46:42 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Ok i take that as no then
02:52:17 <RavFX[m]> So wen tx_extra gonna be deprecated?
05:55:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mordinals noobs lol
05:58:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> But running @ nice POC that you can spam 200byte nfts 
05:58:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> 1.7-1.71kb tx are what their spamming (200bytes over the proposed lowest limit)
05:58:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> They're *
05:59:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Obviously nfts because a typical 1/2 in 1.5kb
05:59:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is*
06:01:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bch tx exploded 👀 (was checking to see if monero tx volume is up)
06:29:32 <zero[m]1> Hi all, wanted to send a quick message here to share and get feedback. Have been involved with Monero for several years and even dabbled with running a node for a short while. One the side run a professional networking group. Since nfts have become popular past couple years, have wanted to offer members (and be able to market to potential new members) a onchain membership, but have held off because didn't want members (and non
06:29:32 <zero[m]1> members) to be able to essentially spy on each other. Is there a way to mint Monero Ordinals similar to how you can mint Bitcoin ordinals on ordinalsbot.com?
06:31:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mordinals.org
06:31:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> But its not "the same" as btc ordinals 
06:31:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> And dont count on building an ecosystem around it unless you want to wait a couple years. The field is in contention for removal or limiting beyond usefulness.
06:33:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> You can sign messages etc with monero, and use those for authentication (wallet owner should hold the login key in the form of an encrypted message). Or something similar. 
06:33:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> The message wouldnt be verified onchain
06:34:31 <zero[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: Would you know if this site is working on building out an image upload and minting process page? 
06:34:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its live 
06:34:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Those images are already on chain 
06:35:32 <zero[m]1> Like without having to run a Monero node
06:35:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yea
06:36:50 <zero[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: Where is that page? 
06:37:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> You just run a little command like
06:37:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> `mint_ordinal 0.00001 picture.jpg caption.txt`
06:37:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/mooonero/mordinals
06:38:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Need to use the modified cli wallet 
06:46:28 <monerochansvolup> <bridgerton[m]> "<Bon 💗> Is this good that monero..." <- No, having this garbage is an easy way to balloon blockchain size for no good reason. This is worse in Monero's case because users are encouraged to run a local node for privacy. A larger blockchain will make this less feasible for the average person. 
06:46:28 <monerochansvolup> Monero is supposed to be a *currency*. Not a 6 year old's scratch book.
07:07:48 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Man nfts are on the Blockchain doesn't that affect monero privacy a little bit just asking
07:08:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> A little bit a lot
07:08:40 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Noooooooo
07:08:41 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Is their anyway to improve the privacy of monero
07:10:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Of course 
07:10:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> tx_extra < 🔥🐲🐉
07:11:09 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> I don't know what that means but ill figure it out
07:11:12 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> 😭
07:11:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> But thats just about Txextra.
07:11:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> There are plenty of improvements coming to monero in the coming months and years 
07:11:16 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> I'm trying to learn
07:11:36 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Yes I'm so exited and can't for improvement
07:11:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> bridgerton[m]: That just means `get a dragon to incinerate it`
07:11:47 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Oh
07:12:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Even over the last 2 days p2pool hard forked and improved the decoy selection as a result 
07:33:28 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> So it's best to use i2p or P2P to improve the privacy of monero.
07:40:43 <monerochansvolup> Monero's privacy is solid by default. However, this NFT garbage negatively impacts tx uniformity and thus privacy. It needs to be removed. Not to mention, the blockchain size implications and general public perception of NFTs.
07:42:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> <bridgerton[m]> "<Bon 💗> So it's best to use..." <- For sending transactions?
07:42:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Onion and I2p nodes are better, yes
07:42:55 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Thank you ❤️
07:43:00 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> I'm learning
07:43:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> The reason is that the node doesnt know what IP sent the transacting. 
07:43:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Using p2p, your IP sending data to the node can be connected to the tx arrival time 
07:44:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> By p2p im referring to clearnet
07:46:18 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> So it's better to use i2p and onion instead of P2P gotcha
07:47:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> I2p or onion
07:47:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Either or is fine
07:47:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> On android, invizible pro from fdroid app store to easily access tor and I2p
07:48:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://guides.cakewallet.com/docs/tutorials/mobile-hardening/#using-invizible-pro
07:54:02 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Yes sir anonymous sir
07:54:17 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> My next goal is to set up my own node and help out the network
08:02:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nice. 
08:02:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Setting up a node can be as easy or as difficult as you want to make it
12:14:33 <nioc> seems the fad is over https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907378231630528563/1087215738294644756/image.png
12:16:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Fake news
12:16:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mempool.spacd
12:16:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> * Mempool.space
12:16:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> I havent clicked in over 24hrs
12:17:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> I bet it still says > 100 block backlog and outgoing transactions under 2sat/vbyte 
12:17:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Purging* transactions
12:17:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🔮
12:18:01 <sech1> 153 blocks backlog now
12:19:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> I didnt want to lose the bet
12:25:13 <nioc> who pays <2sat/byte
12:25:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> 2 ago, everyone 
12:25:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Months -_-
12:26:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> My keyboard is really deleting whole words now 😆
12:27:15 <nioc> I haven't sent a btc tx in a long time but I never paid that little cause I actually want my tx included in a block 
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12:28:48 <nioc> when there were spam attacks in the past people used the minimum 1 sat/byte
12:28:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ath
12:28:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bitcoin magazine sounds like its lying 
12:29:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> nioc: That was ordinals 
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12:30:35 <nioc> and even though I paid more I paid less in USD than that chart shows as avg
12:30:46 <nioc> I guess all charts lie 
12:31:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ones that use blockchain data directly dont 
12:31:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ones created by hand picked data and fact checked, probably nonsense :)
12:32:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> (That chart you posted shows DEC - Feb, with DEC being "0") 
12:32:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> That is false 
12:32:51 <nioc> when did ordinals start?
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12:33:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> This was taken in July 2022
12:33:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Block ~744875
12:34:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> But started long before that
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12:34:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> May
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12:36:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Fees on bitcoin ate the highest they've been in at least a year.
12:36:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> And holding steady
12:38:55 <nioc> just checked and yeah I would have to pay ~2x what I used to pay so about 50 cent
12:39:29 <DataHoarder> seems like monero.com explorer (by cake wallet) has a rounding issue on output verify screen
12:39:43 <DataHoarder> for example https://monero.com/payment/66b52dc7e6819ec026d2b6005b55d131b3340e5a95d77af0edee10f37d99327f/48tdvJBtQN5Vt3jmLDTTYX7dpS9oDXATAdD8XFhuE1CshWUdShUsEif6UivD5iGsroKGEKqxGqA1aFA2XVx8rtmiFAqKT6E/e261b38e518bf557e1f1172e6d249650eea302c16f34ceb3f3993f9f328c750c/ shows 0.6028149399999999 XMR
12:39:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> sgp: 
12:40:01 <DataHoarder> where the actual tx is https://monero.com/tx/66b52dc7e6819ec026d2b6005b55d131b3340e5a95d77af0edee10f37d99327f/ 0.602814940000 XMR
12:40:23 <DataHoarder> so too many decimals, and somehow floating point
13:01:32 <sgp[m]> Weird, thanks
13:23:51 <Rucknium[m]> New merge requests https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests aren't appearing on https://ccs.getmonero.org/ideas/
13:33:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plowsof just  needs to close the animated video one he opened 
13:34:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> And the other one (p2p) needs to be banished to the shadow realm 🫣
14:46:44 <plowsof11> the filename does not end in ".md"
14:49:32 <dsmlegend[m]> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: Just caught up on mentions of the closing videos ccs. My XMR address is at the bottom of the readme page of the repository where the scripts were developed (of which I am the only member).
14:50:39 <plowsof11> dsmlegend: i have also apologised to the human who voiced the video (cadence / editing seems to have fooled me) 
14:51:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> They left before you apologized. Cheater
15:33:03 <plowsof11> https://ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required/ ❤️
15:36:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> LFG
15:37:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Looks scheksie
16:35:28 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> Hi
16:35:28 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> Im wondering where I could get support on a faulty transaction on my end? 
16:35:28 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> Managed to send monero to a adress very unknown on my end.... dont have a clue how it got pasted in there... :(
16:36:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hm.
16:36:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> The issue "where did you get the address" starts with "where were you trying to send the funds"
16:37:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Follows with "what could have happened inbetween"
16:37:49 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> Yes, Im struggling with where these magic characters struck me on my way
16:38:12 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> The idea was to send from monero wallet to my other.... only have 2 wallets
16:38:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is possible but unlikely that you had your clipboard hijacked by a virus.
16:38:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its most likely that you copied the wrong address from somewhere 
16:38:37 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> copied some shit along the way that seems to be a legit wallet since the transaction is complete
16:41:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> So you only copied addressed from your wallets? 
16:41:35 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> yea, seems to be malware after all maybe...
16:41:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> If so ^ patiently check your wallets 
16:42:20 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> annoying, should pay more attention :(
16:42:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> b4qc6xpyyx[m]: Are you on windows?
16:42:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Still not likely 
16:43:47 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> Any chance to create support ticket somewhere? 
16:43:52 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> Yes, windows
16:44:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Are you on windows 
16:46:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> b4qc6xpyyx[m]: #monero-support:monero.social 
16:47:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not a ticket, but thats the place to go for help 
16:48:08 <b4qc6xpyyx[m]> Big thanks :)
16:48:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> And regarding what happened... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/b06016131e0ecd037fca4bacb6977314b80c8ffc>)
17:36:16 <plowsof11> perhaps user has sent funds to an integrated address, and is seeing the base address in transaction history, need to confirm
17:37:01 <plowsof11> a new ccs idea was just posted, flatpak maintenance for 1 year + moving it to the core repo / getting it verified https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests
17:53:25 <plowsof11> anarkiocrypto[m]: anarkiocrypto testing123, i want to donate / point p2pcrowd.fund to a service of yours 
18:36:40 <anarkiocrypto[m]> I would recommend to contact Zombie Master about XMRStarter.com. I don't know if I will be able to finish Kuno, while XMRStarter is ready to use.
18:41:14 <ceetee[m]> as of today, yours looks more promising tho
18:42:14 <ceetee[m]> idk why you're being so reserved about external support
18:42:48 <ceetee[m]> we build stuff ourselfs and very well know that things rarely work out as planned
18:57:24 <anarkiocrypto[m]> XMRStarter already works. Kuno is just pieces of PHP code and vaporware right now. My apartment rental ends March 31 and I really don't know if I will have the energy to finish Kuno before then. There are only around 6 work hours remaining.
18:58:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> You worry too much my friend. Post ya donation address somewhere
18:58:43 <anarkiocrypto[m]> I don't understand what you mean by worrying.
18:59:28 <anarkiocrypto[m]> If you want a self-hosted fundraiser that works, use Plowsof's script. If you want a third party host, use XMRStarter.com. I think it's also possible to run a BTCPayServer fundraiser with Monero.
19:01:45 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Lol @ support ticket
19:01:48 <DanIsnotthemanBr> “ An engineer will get back too you in 5-7 business days”
19:01:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> anarkiocrypto[m]: Means "shut up and take my money" 😄
19:06:43 <anarkiocrypto[m]> If possible I will release the code, then someone could host their own instance (of Kuno Fundraisers or Bitejo marketplace). But as MoneroMarket.io and XMRStarter.com / Plowsof's wishlist are already live, this use case is already filled.
19:11:13 <hanshan[m]> Excuse
19:11:13 <hanshan[m]> Is it possible to test a view key to determine if it is the public or private key?
19:11:52 <ceetee[m]> thing is, I don't want [alternative], I want to see you succeed in whatever you want to build. Yeet the donations into a deposit for a new apartment if it helps you, that's a perfectly fine use imho
19:12:11 <ceetee[m]> * want [alternative product], I
19:13:43 <ceetee[m]> And yes, I still cool with that use even if your visualized project never materializes
19:15:36 <ceetee[m]> * yes, I'm still
19:16:22 <DataHoarder> hanshan[m]: view key as provided is private, usually. public view key (and spend key) is part of the Monero address
19:18:08 <anarkiocrypto[m]> I don't expect to get a new apartment. Will just try to survive. That's why I wanted to complete things beforehand, but seeing MoneroMarket.io's success and the release of XMRStarter.com is a relief and means there is no pressure anymore.
19:25:50 <Rucknium[m]> hanshan: One way is to try to create a view-only wallet with the "view key" and the wallet's main address. It will probably fail with an error if it isn't the private view key.
20:07:14 <Guest56> Hi
20:08:28 <Greg[m]12> Hi. Tax is theft.
20:09:44 <merope> Wrong. Also wrong chat
20:11:13 <Guest56> I didn't get the wrong chat, I'm looking for answers to my idea
20:12:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nohello.net
20:12:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Include a short summary of your idea along with the hello
20:13:31 <Guest56> Ok
20:13:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> * Nohello.net/en/
20:14:42 <merope> Guest56: I was replying to the other person who replied to you first
20:15:01 <merope> (Perhaps their message did not get relayed)
20:22:40 <Guest56> I'm looking for a code to insert in an app to give all users the possibility to mine monero if anyone would like to help me can write me
20:24:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ooo like a botnet for phones? 
20:24:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or like xmrig for android 🙄
20:24:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> We have the latter already
20:26:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> If youre idea is well thought out, open a ccs proposal
20:26:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> If it isnt #monero-offtopic:monero.social 
20:26:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you have specific questions or want to be more direct in what you'd like help with, then #monero-community-dev:monero.social 
20:27:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> ccs.getmonero.org
20:30:56 <Guest56> i'm not playing, i'm really looking for someone who can help me insert a string in my app to create a ming pool with monero
20:31:53 <rbrunner> "app" as in "smartphone app" or "tablet app"?
20:32:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> I spoke seriously and clearly 
20:32:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Asked a few questions and gave a few directions 
20:32:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> If anything is misunderstood, let it be known
20:44:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> The description I read sounds like
20:44:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> - Mining monero on all platforms is possible and easy (except ios)
20:44:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> - running a node on all platforms is possible and easy (except ios)
20:44:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> So this is either a botnet, or an ios miner, or it exists, OR more info needs to be provided to clarify what separated the proposed idea from existing solutions.
20:50:40 <Guest56> ofrnxmr[m] if you think you can help me and you want more information you can write me in private, I will be happy to answer your questions
20:51:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im not interested in anything you cant say here 
20:52:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> If it cant be said here, youre in the wrong room
21:01:43 <lunardao[m]> hey guys, we did an interview with Anon Shop -- an online service that lets you shop with $XMR on Amazon anonymously
21:01:46 <lunardao[m]> https://twitter.com/lunarpunksquad/status/1637911749780205569
21:01:48 <lunardao[m]> Check it out
21:02:21 <lunardao[m]>  * https://twitter.com/lunarpunksquad/status/1637911749780205569?s=20
21:10:35 <lunardao[m]> Let us know if you'd want to listen to a twitter space with them  👀
21:10:52 <lunardao[m]>  * Let us know if you'd want to listen to a twitter space with us and Anon Shop  👀
21:14:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Who is us
21:14:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> And Dgoon = anonshop, right? 
21:15:30 <lunardao[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: LunarDAO
21:15:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Do tell more
21:18:13 * lunardao[m] posted a file: (716KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/FLZDCLBlLwshZcdEFhHopMXd/lunardao_outreach.pdf >
21:18:14 <lunardao[m]> The site is probably the best place to go [lunardao](https://lunardao.net/). We also have a one-pager that gives a rundown:
21:18:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Who: lunardao... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/50356f30636e15e66c54948f00ba0f96015f2859>)
21:18:53 <lunardao[m]> * to go for more info [lunardao](https://lunardao.net/), * [lunardao](https://lunardao.net/) (however it's not complete yet). We
21:19:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Too much suspenseful reading 
21:19:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Can you shorten for me
21:19:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Copy paste important parts is fine 
21:20:49 <lunardao[m]> LunarDAO is an organization advancing the lunarpunk movement by investing in privacy projects, anonymity tooling, research and education.
21:20:49 <lunardao[m]> LunarDAO is a key player in the growing lunarpunk movement. Lunarpunk emerged as a response to the need for protection against surveillance by central authority and big tech.
21:20:49 <lunardao[m]> The movement's ultimate goal is to create a network of organizations that operate parallel to the state using anonymity tools.
21:20:58 <lunardao[m]> No we haven't launched yet
21:22:06 <lunardao[m]> Working on finalizing partners for the site among some smart contract stuff. Tomorrow we have a short presentation at the Fair Data Society Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oMKsbK_iak
21:23:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> And your / the dao's thoughts on crypto? 
21:24:48 <lunardao[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: In what sense?
21:24:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> With the answer more focused around currency, privacy 
21:25:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Usage 
21:25:42 <lunardao[m]> We encourage the anonymization of assets. Therefore we lean towards privacy coins. Our end goal is having a fully anon DAO on an anonymized chain. 
21:26:29 <lunardao[m]> Part of the reason we interviewed Anon Shop is because it goes to show that paying for real things with privacy coins is possible
21:27:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Privacy coin is a misnomer
21:27:28 <lunardao[m]> * anonymized chain (in terms of structure).
21:27:50 <lunardao[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: What do you suggest to use instead?
21:28:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> XMR 
21:30:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Double meaning.
21:30:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> One, name another privacy coin that you can use
21:30:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Two, privacy coins are `coins` ie crypto _currency_ , everything else is something that doesnt do its job
21:33:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Transparent coins can hardly be considered currencies. More accurate to refer to them as an open ledgers (in the literal sense) than they are a currencies, again in the literal sense
21:33:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> s/a /`/, s/,/`,/
21:35:52 <plowsof11> "I'm thinking about potentially making Anon Shop a DAO. This would mean having federated operations on different continents. An entire network could be built on anonymous deliveries." you get a dao,, i get a dao, everyone gets a dao
21:36:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Privacy has been mainstream for over 10 years.... Except for crypto"currencies" (open ledgers).
21:36:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Crypto is stuck back in http era
21:36:43 <plowsof11> thank you for sharing the project and interview @ https://lunardao.net/anon_shop.html (if yo uwant to know more about Anon shop it may also interest you) 
21:36:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr.
21:36:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Unless there is a counter arguement, you should have said "xmr"
21:40:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> You should interview ofrnxmr, I heard hes available in fall of 2023
21:41:13 <bridgerton[m]> <salami donators!> You're always available ofrn
21:41:43 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Opensource
21:41:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im not always there when you call, but im always on time 🎶
21:42:14 <plowsof11> i don't like dao's or any kind of 'wishy washy lunar eclipse magic the gathering change the world type things though 
21:42:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Gave you my
21:42:51 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Baby be mine
21:42:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Alll
21:43:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> ( shit happens at work. Dont ask)
21:43:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org:  🫢
21:50:29 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Who works
21:51:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> This room is the workplace 👨‍🌾
22:09:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Answer me!!!!!!!!!
22:09:49 <DanIsnotthemanBr> ;)
23:03:30 <spacefreedom[m]> <lunardao[m]> "Working on finalizing partners..." <- I know it's offtopic in this channel but gotta commend your persistence, gotta show up again in darkfi irc soon and see if testnet node runs :] 
23:03:30 <spacefreedom[m]> otherwise i'm back to driving my car at night :]