06:58:28 <xmrlover[m]> I use both stack wallet and elite wallet they seem ok 
08:31:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Elite is not good
08:31:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Spyware 
08:34:28 <cockliuser[m]> ^
08:34:45 <cockliuser[m]> They had scripts to compile binaries into the package
08:35:43 <xmrlover[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: For real well damn it seemed good to me 
08:35:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its a knock off of monero.com
08:36:30 <xmrlover[m]> Fair enough time to delete it 
09:11:34 <plowsof11> cockliuser i made an issue about the archives: they added a disclaimer now https://github.com/Elite-Labs/EliteWallet/issues/7 
09:13:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Inexcusable 
09:14:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> "He, what are you doing?!"
09:14:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Whoops. Sorry. Im raping you.?"
09:14:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Thats better. Thanks for letting know instead of just doing it"
09:15:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> They also advertise that they use self hosted binaries for their build process. Nobody RTFM or even release notes
09:15:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Shit wallet, shit team, waste of time trying to make disclaimers girl shit behavior 
09:16:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Unless the disclaimer is "lmao 🚮"
09:17:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or "we will fix thus garbage is next version. Were fucked right now. Dont download"
09:17:50 <plowsof11> id recommend they look how cake use github to build binaries (for devs and testers) https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/blob/main/.github/workflows/pr_test_build.yml 
09:18:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lmao
09:18:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Again, why?
09:18:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> They cant even use up to date code 
09:18:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> The wallet is a Fuckin scsm, stop trying to fix it
09:18:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> I recommend they fix their shit and stop fucking around 
09:19:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> But they just want to write disclaimers and release the same broken trash repeatedly 
09:19:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> The signatures between 1.0 and 1.1 didnt even match
09:19:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Shit, spyware wallet run by scammers 
09:19:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> The only thing I recommend is "dont use it. Bad actors"
09:20:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> They dont respond to real issues, just lie saying "elite is private like linux, cake is spyware"
09:20:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> And im no cake shill 😆😆 fkn cake assholes 🫠
09:21:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> But im no liar. Cake is solid, elite is leaky like eating soup with a fork
09:22:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://twitter.com/nahuhhXMR/status/1631475387527057410
09:24:58 <cockliuser[m]> That apk installer UI is slick 
09:25:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> App manager from fdroid
09:26:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Shows me when people (proton) adds trackers 😆
09:29:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> <plowsof11> "id recommend they look how..." <- The joke here is a user actually requested cake to start doing the same 😭
09:30:41 <plowsof11> the signature you can reproduce is the correct one (afaik NO mobile wallet has this simply because api keys are sensitive info)
09:31:22 <plowsof11> gitian build for mobile wallets wen 
09:31:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cake gas GitHub action builds
09:31:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Those use rotating signatures tho, so not for production 
09:32:07 <plowsof11> but bill gates might put back doors in 
09:32:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Elite used different keys for v1.1 than they did for 1.0
09:32:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Like.. did you. .. lost your keys?! 😆
09:32:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah. I dont trust you, your wallet or your repo
09:32:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Where are your signing keys?
09:32:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Smh
09:33:59 <TimeWalker[m]> I never heard of that wallet and wanted to check their website... uh... it returns a 502 Bad Gateway from possibly Google (error messaging looks very samish) lol
09:34:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Elitewallet.sc iirc
09:34:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yep, 502
09:34:41 <TimeWalker[m]> Haha, just wanted to say click on it 😛
09:34:43 <plowsof11> signature as in sha256sum of the apk?
09:34:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Try majesticbank.sc
09:35:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof11: The signing keys used for the app
09:35:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> When making android apps you add a signature to prove origin 
09:38:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bsidcslly I can have... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/d080927c722890bb949094878830c487bb8f9e90>)
09:41:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "Try majesticbank.sc" <- Bug coincidence that both are down at the same tine 🍿
09:45:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Conspiracy
10:00:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "The joke here is a user actually..." <- @plowsof, meant to respond to ^^
10:00:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> > cockliuser i made an issue about the archives: they added a disclaimer now https://github.com/Elite-Labs/EliteWallet/issues/7 
10:00:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/issues/789
10:36:19 <vdo> hmmm I'm trying to submit an issue to https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/meta but the "Submit new issue" button does not work
10:38:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> On GitHub itself?
10:38:34 <vdo> yeah
10:38:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Other repos are working? Im assuming an issue with your browser (or githubs websitr)
10:38:55 <vdo> but it works for other repos, is there some moderation thingy enabled?
10:39:56 <vdo> the button gets greyed out, but never submits
10:41:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Any way I can test without spamming the issues?
10:41:17 <plowsof11> sanity check: did you type a title and content in the issue?
10:41:35 <vdo> yes ofc
10:41:59 <plowsof11> https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/meta/issues/81 
10:42:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ty for doing the dirty job for me plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: 
10:42:58 <vdo> I will try removing links, very weird
10:43:16 <TimeWalker[m]> Somebody with admin rights there can delete the test issue so it doesn't appear in the closed issues list
10:43:30 <plowsof11> sanity check: make the exact same hello world issue 
10:44:11 <TimeWalker[m]> But technically, if moderation would be turned on then you shouldn't be even able to click on "New Issue". And I assume your account is older than 24h?
10:44:50 <vdo> I created this one 5min ago https://github.com/vdo/monero-helm/issues/1
10:45:31 <vdo> yes it's quite old lol
10:47:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Try posting test issue
10:47:15 <vdo> ok
10:47:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Same as plow.success = edit it
10:48:06 <plowsof11> share a paste bin link of the issue and i can post it , reverse uno sanity check 
10:50:15 <vdo> https://imgur.com/kBwXcii
10:50:35 <vdo> this one doesn't work either
10:50:50 <vdo> so maybe I have some sort of ban :?
10:51:29 <cockliuser[m]> Probably Javascript/adblocker issue
10:51:38 <plowsof11> paste me the issue yu want to make and i can add "this is from vdo, are they banned?"
10:52:25 <vdo> ok will pm you
10:57:18 <vdo> cockliuser[m]: it works on other repos, so I don't think so...
11:01:37 <cockliuser[m]> Weird
11:02:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> #censored
11:06:12 <vdo> 🤔
11:09:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Conspiracy again
11:13:16 <plowsof11> if username 3 letters or less = ban 
11:14:16 <plowsof11> todo: 'please update the monero-python repo with a PR that makes it unlock-time aware'
13:14:23 <spacekitty420[m4> <ofrnxmr[m]> "Elite is not good" <- am pretty sure i didnt hallucinate that or whatever but like.... didnt binaryfate said he was also behind it? like... the announcement thread on reddit iirc he was like vouching for it, maybe am confusing with some shit cause couldnt find it again with quick search but am pretty sure that was that wallet and not an other one
13:18:20 <spacekitty420[m4> oh nvm! aris.io!! i derped lol, nvm nvm x)
13:19:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Majestic is behind elite, but wont admit that in public 
13:23:59 <spacekitty420[m4> that's odd cause like, not sure if cake wasnt using majestic for those coin swapping or whatever, like, they had changenow and some others but now they integrated trocador anyways... which majestic is supported by it so why would they make a fork of cake if they already supported by cake through trocador... dont make no sense
13:25:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Majestic isnt on trocador anymore 
13:25:41 <spacekitty420[m4> oh wtf?
13:25:43 <spacekitty420[m4> why?
13:25:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Majestic didnt want to be 🤷‍♂️
13:25:57 <spacekitty420[m4> errrrr...
13:26:09 <spacekitty420[m4> MajetsticBank: dumbass
13:26:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont ask me how that guys brain works
13:26:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> They made elite because cake wouldnt support majestic 
13:27:01 <spacekitty420[m4> 🙃
13:27:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> And why should they. The site uptime is unreliable, and the swaps rates are unreliable, the communication on a professional level is 100% nonexistent
13:27:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> S/professional/business
13:28:01 <Morpheus[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Majestic requested to be removed
13:30:37 <Morpheus[m]> We were said that they wanted to leave, but our doors are open in case they want to come back
13:30:46 <Morpheus[m]> s/said/sad/
13:35:28 <Lovera[m]> Interesting!! Let me wish way -> Cakewallet integration 
13:35:41 <Lovera[m]> Let me guess*
13:35:58 <Lovera[m]> * Let me guess why*
13:36:46 <spacekitty420[m4> yup, the dots seems to have connected with those explanations lol
13:37:01 <spacekitty420[m4> math is mathing
13:37:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nah. Majestic wants to be on cake
13:37:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Needs the volume
13:37:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Trocador is a Trojan horse to let majestic get some volume. Majestic said nope and fudded about cake spying in you
13:38:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Imo. He wants people swapping on majestic, not an proxy
13:38:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because he runs a bunch of honeypots and dirty btc pools
13:39:18 <spacekitty420[m4> what would be the difference with direct volume rathered than volume by proxy tho?
13:41:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Knowledge about who owned the btc (real IP if you use elitewallets proxy or their website without tor etc)
13:45:54 <ceetee[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "Imo. He wants people swapping on..." <- also gives him all the fees, I'd guess trocador got a 50% commission or thereabouts
13:55:15 <plowsof11> TrocadorMarkup fee += fees 
13:55:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Trocador doesnt have a markup ❤️
13:56:00 <plowsof11> partners can add the markup fee 
13:56:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> 🚀 ooooh you mean why majestic isnt in cake. I thought you meant in trocador.
13:56:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yesss. Agree 100%
13:57:33 <plowsof11> i mean this "trocadorExchangeMarkup = '${{ secrets.TROCADOR_EXCHANGE_MARKUP }}'" so users may get different rates when using trocador integrated into apps/websites 
13:58:50 <plowsof11> you get some fees, i get some fees, everybody gets some fees!
14:58:00 <plowsof11> i think my check-seed-node script noticed one of our seed nodes is offline, pls pat my head 
15:00:05 <plowsof11> ./monerod --add-exclusive-node 51.79.173.165 --log-level 2 (the ip points to getmonero.org) - note the angry face -> https://github.com/plowsof/check-monero-seed-nodes
15:01:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thats a bF thing, right?
15:06:01 <plowsof11> hm with it pointing to getmonero, i'd say yes binaryFate if true could you have a look?
16:51:35 <Trojanvolta[m]> hey guys wassup 
16:51:55 <Trojanvolta[m]> would netBSD be a better option for raspberry pi 3 ? 
16:52:06 <Trojanvolta[m]> I want to make a xmpp server 
17:03:07 <plowsof11> lza_menace: singapore mainnet node appears offline (stagenet/testnet fine) , bF pls ignore 
20:00:15 <n1oc> Bulletproofs++ Peer Review has moved to funding! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/bulletproofs-pp-peer-review.html
20:38:42 <nioc> thx n1oc
20:39:28 <nioc> thought they were aiting until next weeks MRL meeting to decide
20:39:43 <nioc> now that I have spoken I will look  :)
20:40:37 <nioc> plowsof11: did you get in touch with the author?
20:47:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> <nioc> "thought they were aiting until..." <- Who, me?
20:47:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> No. I said merge it
20:48:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anyway, were starting to raise the funds and will change the ccs after the next meeting if there is a change 
20:48:07 <nioc> TIL that ofrnxmr is not they
20:48:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ofrnxmr is they
20:48:45 <nioc> and if the amount turns out to be different after the change?
20:49:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Then we change it 👍
20:49:29 <nioc> can I get the overage, even if obviously I am not a they?
20:50:39 <rbrunner> That's a bit confusing now. My understanding of Wednesday's MRL meeting also was "Let's wait and see what the visit next week will bring".
20:50:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> No, but your cat can.
20:51:23 <nioc> good, she has a wallet
20:51:29 <nioc> rbrunner: same
20:52:10 <rbrunner> https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20230322#c224236
20:52:24 <nioc> rational was that there was no rush as it would get funded quickly
20:53:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> :( where what the outcry when geonics movie went to funding 
20:53:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im joking, im more like 😆😆😆
20:54:05 <rbrunner> Well, I am not crying out, so far just wondering. Who moved that then? Luigi?
20:54:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yes 
20:54:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Only luigi can
20:54:53 <nioc> kayabanerve[m] xmrack: Are they trying to attend the meeting next week?
20:54:53 <nioc> xmrack[m] Yes
20:54:53 <nioc> kayabanerve[m] Just triple checking :)
20:54:54 <nioc> kayabanerve[m] I'd call to hold off on any decisions until after then.
20:56:00 <nioc> plowsof11 sounds good, we can TBD next week
20:56:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> I was therr
20:56:13 <nioc> me2
20:58:17 <dsc_> is the person operating moneromemes.com here
20:58:24 <dsc_> reveal yourself at once
21:08:25 <dsc_> in prep. for my new XMR meme shitposting platform I am exploring the meme market, my future competitors, and regulatory challenges
21:09:28 <dsc_> am following the "embrace, extend, and exterminate" strategy
21:09:58 <dsc_> .bbl
21:19:07 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Sec of memes
21:43:21 <plowsof11> nioc it turns out the "TBD next week" would be for an entirely different 'thing' 
21:43:35 <plowsof11> a separate proposal for another day 
21:44:03 <nioc> clear as mud
21:44:37 <nioc> this or that = all the things
21:48:02 <plowsof11> nioc https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20230322#c224270 and https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20230322#c224260
21:48:46 <plowsof11> rbrunner ^
21:50:40 <nioc> yeah might as well stop waiting on BP++  <<>> so I misunderstood this?
21:51:11 <plowsof11> correct , both where contacted to confirm 
21:51:38 <plowsof11> stop waiting on bp++ [paper to be updated with something we apparently dont need]
21:54:42 <plowsof11> i read a vague statement and pushed it to funding blindly 
21:55:27 <plowsof11> after adding ' 5xmr for plowsof to throw a party ' 
21:56:21 <nioc> you sell yourself too cheaply 
21:56:45 <plowsof11> xD
21:57:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> #freeplowsof
21:57:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> And I mean free like "free lunch", not free like "let him go"
22:00:06 <plowsof11> isn't moneromemes a fork of lza_menaces thing 
22:00:40 <nioc> I can take solace in the fact that I wasn't the only one confused  
22:01:43 <nioc> .bbl
22:02:00 <plowsof11> https://nitter.it/lza_menace/status/1601107430158397441
22:03:23 <plowsof11> yes it https://github.com/lalanza808/nerochan 
22:31:25 <XeN[m]> is there something like btcpayserver that i can get on my vpns without having to store the whole blockchain and possibly use a remote node? 
22:32:41 <XeN[m]> s/vpns/vps/
22:36:11 <plowsof11> in bitcartcc's announcement thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z5eggu/opensource_selfhosted_payment_processor_bitcartcc/ and " connect it to any daemon RPC or your own node." - similarly , AcceptXMR can be pointed at Any public monero node. but is in active development under the CCS
22:37:32 <XeN[m]> awesome ty!
22:38:53 <plowsof11> monerica.com has a list of other merchant options available