03:02:42 <thunderfreedom[m> I am not making a proposal, this is a purely educational question.  If Ring CT is increased in size above 16, this slows down transaction speed right?
03:04:15 <RavFX> I think it only take most space in the blockchain. Seraphis should help with that with more ooMaths (and get 64 or 128)
03:10:36 <thunderfreedom[m> Well if more space is taken up, wouldn't that fill blocks and thus slow transactions?
03:11:51 <RavFX> Not really, monero have variable block size so at the end it will do the same. But it will eat more space on the nodes
03:12:24 <RavFX> monero block size adapt and get bigger so at the end it does not take more time. But it eat more storage on the nodes
03:14:24 <RavFX> Monero TX are already way bigger than bitcorn TX with Ring size of 16. Plus ring size of 16 is fine. So you still want to keep theses TX as small as possible. Better math and code will allow ring way bigger but it's for in 2 years:tm:
03:18:49 <thunderfreedom[m> Ok understood, thanks for reply.  So I heard someone talk about pirate chain, saying how its better than monero because its larger anonymity set.  I do not personally think this is necessary, I just wanted to know why not increase it
03:19:48 <RavFX> Piratechain is different, I it "might
03:20:17 <RavFX> " "might" have better algo but that is still to prove, as for the anon set, there are way more monero transaction...
03:20:50 <RavFX> Piratechain is like Zcash, but it's a fixed zcash (no transparent transactions)
03:21:47 <thunderfreedom[m> Zero knowledge proof using the entire chain as the "ring CT" participants
03:22:20 <fr33_yourself[m]> I think there is research being done on adding full membership proofs to Monero in light of recent events
03:23:20 <thunderfreedom[m> Recent events?
03:23:58 <RavFX> Yeah, Monero use mostly battle tested algos. Stuff that got proven to work instead of new shiny thing that seam to do nice thing but did not get battle tested. 
03:24:17 <RavFX> "NFT poison"
03:24:54 <RavFX> I do still have to read about that full membership stuff
03:25:00 <thunderfreedom[m> Oh gotcha
03:25:07 <RavFX> But NFT poison is the reason thunder*
03:25:44 <thunderfreedom[m> Yeah is it looking like they will ban TXT extras for NFT poison ?
03:26:16 <RavFX> We reduce them first then we see, full ban is a possibility
03:27:06 <thunderfreedom[m> Gotcha, thank you
08:06:58 <jeffro256[m]> <plowsof11> "oh just wanted to plug jeffro256..." <- Thanks plowsof :)
10:43:16 <DanIsnotthemanBr> OMG people are putting nfts on the monero !;!;!:$:&:$:
12:00:09 <monerobull[m]> I'm selling mine for 1 xmr each 🤑
12:00:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monerobull is a good seller.
12:00:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ive bought 6 already!
14:51:14 <nioc> lololol
14:52:13 <plowsof11> print your physical nfts at morbinals.org 
18:51:28 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Whens the art show?