00:09:50 Another big shoutout from mental outlaw 00:11:54 https://youtu.be/lu0k59y5z3E 00:22:54 "We do it for moneroChan" 00:45:23 "seth is a Traitor™" <- Ban¿ 00:45:28 Only repeating what he said 00:45:43 sth said this , sth said that omg 00:46:33 He’ll put you out of job if there was dev tax 00:46:54 plowsof11: Seth the dev ;) 00:47:37 even though hes in that room right there in my screen called #optout-general:matrix.optoutpod.com and left us after 4 years of volunteer work cus he wanted to put food on the table , he's a traitor, i dont care if he 'says the word monero' or carries that with him for the rest of his life as being the monero/btc guy 00:48:08 to little, too late 00:57:05 sorry, you can't leave a cult 01:01:09 going clear ^^ 01:01:59 Fuck him and His kids 01:01:59 Actually... yes you can. 01:02:00 There are stories I can tell. 01:02:00 But only in person, over drinks 01:02:00 I hope he loses his jobs and comes crawling back, like a kid 01:02:05 Who needs food.. when you have monero 🐸 01:04:03 ofrnxmr: I hope you're /s , that's just mean 01:04:23 in other news: sech1 aka the asic bricker (usually one of the first to produce gitian build hashes) tested the new release and noticed a bug that may have caused a chainsplit. submitted a patch 5 mins later (on a monday no less) 👍️ 01:07:01 last week ofrnxmr[m] was on seth's side, and now not? 01:07:05 "Who needs food.. when you have..." <- wdym, monero is food! 😋 01:07:12 sorry, offtopic 01:08:59 xmrfn[m]: I dont even know how to reply 01:10:35 I kind of stopping reading his thing when his site decided to block russian (I don't know if it was intentional or no) 01:11:07 I kind of stopped following him when his sethforprivacy site began to block russian (don't know if it was intentional) 01:12:15 fk matrix, back on IRC, Matrix is unusable now 01:13:25 I get lot of lag on the monero.social matrix server now 01:14:09 Yeah sorry I also don't agree with that, that is pretty rude. I don't even think it's justified tbh like yeah I believe he should have pursued a career in monero and I disagree with his decision to push for "BTC privacy" when the answer is right there (Monero!) but it's his decision and he does have a family to take care of. It's not like he's an enemy of monero or anything and he said he still promotes it. The reality is he did 01:14:09 so much good work for monero for a long time. Why be so tribalistic? That drives people away. 01:14:37 Thats what she said 01:14:59 Ride or die monero yeah? 01:15:23 Blood in,blood out monero cult 01:16:07 Yes. Matrix is disgusting right now. Im seeing like 30 second load times 01:16:12 tell me about it. I run a Synapse server, it's so bloated 01:16:12 If you believe that, you probably also think vik posts from my twitter 01:16:52 Btw 01:17:01 Im Geonic 01:21:28 did you ever notice that you can't spell geonic without nioc? 01:22:40 I was going to say nioc, but figured youd get it 01:34:51 tuxsudo: Everything in this room about Seth was satire. 01:36:55 Was it? I guess I missed some context, my bad. 01:38:55 plowsof once almost got cancelled from Reddit when someone thought his satire was sincere. 01:40:15 Rucknium: its ok. I dont mind if people try to cancel me 😆 01:40:54 rolf. Yeah I almost never agree with "cancelling" however if disagree with your opinion I may challenge it! 01:41:29 Anyone who is paying attention knows better. Anyone who isnt paying attention should do better than to believe everything they hear 01:41:29 * however if I disagree with 01:42:10 Ofrnxmr against Seth over reasons currently in the news = if you believe that, youre crazy 01:42:11 Well you said that yourself over text, can't blame anyone for taking it out of context tbh. Especially when somebody else was also saying how rude it was 😂 01:42:51 I'm ofrnxmr 01:42:51 Not Sissy crybaby worries about other guys lifestyles 01:43:22 based.....? 01:43:36 😂 01:45:23 I tried to clarify for the innocent 01:46:06 "Only think I know about hackeron..." <- ooo is a god amongst us 01:46:38 Is he in the room with us now? 01:56:19 "Btw my dream is to leave in a..." <- john mcafee 01:57:15 i don't know if ooo is here, but man i liked that guy. he had absolutely no filter and was purely focused on meritocratic development of xmr 01:57:38 You can say that again 01:58:03 He was vicious and would not back down but damn he wrote some good code 01:58:22 he/she 02:00:37 He'll ve back for summer break 02:02:06 Wasnt vicious imo. Just wasnt passive 02:11:29 "Ooo, for example, was rather..." <- my man. he was appalled 02:12:09 ooo was top tier imo, I wish he would come banter with us in the chat 02:12:41 He dont banter 02:13:23 Makes his points and leaves 02:13:51 this is just me spit balling but the overflow funds could be used as a mini bounty to put a kabotch on the morbs. whoever makes the pr that kills those wastes of chain space gets the mini bounty created with the overflow funds. i guess a series of mini bounties could be made for the code changer and the mining pool persuader or smthing like this 02:14:17 why bad idea? 02:15:22 We could have killed them years ago 02:15:54 Its not rocket science, its time / a fork 02:16:18 "I can't find a way to see how..." <- I like this approach as well. Seems you weren't as keen on this one though ofrnxmr 02:16:36 If youre talking about ________, those are already in the pipelinr 02:17:03 Of course im not ok with donating ccs funds to 10k bounties 02:17:14 When we do 25k movies 02:17:26 I though ooo said the hackerone bounties were too low 02:17:50 Yep 02:17:51 So why would we donate to then 02:17:52 Them 02:17:53 yeah the whole movie thing was very ridiculous but I held my tongue through most of that saga 02:18:01 fr33_yourself[m]: We have 0power to change that 02:18:21 who sets the hackerone bounty prices then? 02:18:30 Who tf knows 02:19:00 core? the general fund? or 02:19:08 If you have to ask, you shouldn't ve "voting" 02:19:09 fr33_yourself[m]: Who. Tg. Knows 02:19:09 Tf 02:19:26 Its not any community initiative 02:19:51 It might as well be core, gf, joe biden 02:19:56 Not our policies,not our money 02:20:22 And its obviously broken 02:20:24 alrighty, well if it's a bad idea then so be it. I just thought it would be interesting if we had money to throw at solving problems that poke up in a very quick manner. 02:21:08 Fund isnt to YOLO money 02:21:54 Its to be there in the event gf, hackerone, a critical, overflowing into ccs etc. 02:21:57 like imagine if we could flip a switch and m0rb guy couldn't even a single extra m0rb? Every 2 mins he is winning by irrevocably bloating a chain that should be kept sacred 02:22:14 hackerone bounties are a % of the total 02:22:20 He's not winning lol 02:22:42 Yea, and total is pathetic 02:23:08 GF willing to spend 400k on s fucking domain or refund the money 02:23:21 And hackerone under 100k 02:23:26 but they didn't 02:23:30 Movies going at 25k a pop 02:23:51 Bp++ is 16k 02:23:52 nioc: Still going to refund 02:24:05 Didnt because hahahaha 02:24:32 ofrnxmr is making some good points right now 02:24:44 money was given to GF for that purpose yet it didn't happen 02:25:40 Earmarked donations, what a laundering joke 02:25:57 imagine if the movie money was kept in reserve and used as a 10 day bounty to kill m0rbs 02:25:58 Dont mix my dev funds with that junk 02:26:26 And dont refund it either 💢 02:27:10 You dont get to come to my WAAS and drop 400k and say "kill your brother" and think im going you refund you or follow orders 02:27:37 if only elon was backing xmr and wasn't donating to movies lol 02:27:52 I don't follow ofrnxmr. I think I missed that part of Monero history 02:27:57 Go ask chatgpt what "donation" means before you have directions on what im to spend it on 02:28:25 fr33_yourself: Mordinals cannot be prevented completely. The only possibility is completely changing Monero's cryptography to something that probably hasn't even been discovered yet. 02:29:05 Arb storage cent be* morbs can 02:29:37 Rucknium, you are reffering to a sound complete membership proof right? 02:29:41 Youd have to be real stupid to try to be profitable stegging moths while trying to ruining the chain they are on 02:29:45 Morbd 02:29:46 fr33_yourself: No 02:30:14 Some type of cryptography that prevents all steganography. 02:30:15 Someone donated 400k to gf to buy monero.com 02:30:15 ^ hilarious 02:31:38 I see, but isn't steganography by itself a better Monero than Monero with steganography vulnerabilities and mr. m0rb (tx_extra) 02:32:52 Txextra isnt "evil", but its a poorly implemented field 02:32:52 I think I'm actually too stupid to comment further lol I should probably can it now. It seems a working solution is being deployed, I guess we will see how things pan out 02:33:01 txextra big bad boogeyman to me and alex from LM haha 02:33:23 Its a public chat field on chain 02:33:28 Less boogeyman more yuck 02:33:29 A junkdrawer 02:33:47 Its good on day 1-100, but not 8 years in 02:33:47 thats why I wouldn't be sad to see it go 02:34:06 fr33_yourself[m]: Fueling the tx_extra devil 02:34:53 Extra66tx 02:35:28 1/2 1.5kb? Nahh. Lets do 1/2 and 100kb 02:38:06 Do you think no more m0rbs prior to apr 1? 02:42:40 * ocean[m] uploaded an image: (70KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.thisisjoes.site/d3ea85413b4873ba0e047769265fd88d7f3e9bcd/vt6rctnjpzpa1.jpg > 02:45:12 "in other news: sech1 aka the..." <- "there goes my hero watch him as he goes" 04:08:32 sorry not sorry I missed the seth drama 04:08:54 his article reads a lot like this: https://geonic.medium.com/price-is-more-important-than-privacy-bitcoin-is-king-20086c9e8543 04:09:35 especially this part "I’ve come more to grips with the power of network effects, on and off-ramps" lol 04:16:29 "irregardless" makes me think he's being serious tho 04:48:42 it's a long con, whether conscious or not. good for him. if he believes it, even better. 04:54:55 "I get lot of lag on the monero...." <- If you're still seeing it, give a holler. Updates and a reboot were done following reports of slowness 06:32:54 "it's a long con, whether..." <- You're braindead 06:33:32 please elaborate 06:33:38 A pot calling the fork black lol 06:34:08 tuxsudo: there you go 06:34:35 surely you mean the kettle 06:35:19 Then youd be comparable 06:35:28 You're just projecting 06:36:03 projecting how? 06:38:11 How much was Seth last ccs 😆 06:38:15 maybe you too need to do some soul searching and come to grips with the power of network effects and on and off-ramps 06:38:27 non-sequitur 06:38:46 all you're good at are insults and logical fallacies 06:38:47 boring 06:39:22 You're drunk again obviously 06:40:03 cheers 07:00:53 5 o'clock somewhere i suppose 07:29:08 "You're drunk again obviously..." <- Meth 07:34:29 Is that normal bro 😭stay bro and test it for fent 07:46:04 buncha meanies, I’m going to seth’s matrix server 07:51:25 No don't go 07:53:05 bitcoiners are nicer anyway 08:00:36 ofrnxmr: what is the "refund" you keep referring to? 08:00:56 Please dont go 😞 08:02:50 And I don't see why putting more money into the hackerone is a bad idea because "the payouts are too small" when the payouts are a percentage of the hackerone fund 08:03:41 Increase the fund > increase the payouts 08:03:41 Very simple to me 08:06:21 Last October we received a massive (2500 XMR) donation, and the donor expressed the intent of purchasing the domain Monero.com. After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement. If the person who donated 2500 XMR were to reach out to me, I am willing to refund this donation to them, as an exception. For practical reasons, this offer will not stand indefinitely, so I will set a deadline of 1st 08:06:21 of September 2023 for this person to contact me directly and prove themselves cryptographically. 08:14:11 Ah OK. Sounds reasonable tbh? Although it shouldn't have gone through the GF donation address in the first place 08:20:24 its not a bad idea, but a dedicated CCS fund which can be used flexibly might be better 08:21:26 I dont know what planet you guys were norn on 08:21:42 But where im from, thats obvious slimeball behavior 08:22:12 There is 0 good faith logic in a donation given like that 08:22:47 And no sense being used when offering an unsolicited refund that will wipe out (iirc 50%) of the fund 08:23:33 I donated 10k to GF. 08:23:33 Either they buy guns for hyc or I want my money back 08:24:07 ^^ thats not how life works. Yall give way too many inches and never realize what a mile looks like 08:27:32 Even the "we did not come to an agreement with the seller of the website" 08:27:32 Lol. # When your drug dealer refuses to sell you more drugs because your making bad financial decisions with 0 oversight 08:29:22 Nobody would know about hackerone if ooo didnt come and flip tables around here. Nobody would know about monero.com purchase if it went through until after wards 08:33:19 And Fwiw, I set goals a long time ago to increase the gf and hackerone by at least 10x each but gf looks to be happy to take VC money with orders attached / refund clauses. 08:33:20 That 2500xmr SHOULD have been a ccs 08:34:38 Idk I think many would say it was "slimeball behavior" if money donated for a specific purpose was used for some other purpose, especially such a large amount. Seems like the donator was simply incompetent in that they didn't mention these stipulations BEFORE donating or attempt to send the money through some other channel (not main GF address) 08:35:00 Exactly why I wonder what planet you guys were born on 08:35:17 Thats the definition of paying for a service 08:35:21 Not a donation 08:35:54 Donors dont get to dictate what theirbdonations are used for 08:35:55 If so, il going to start sending donations saying "buy ammo or refund me" 08:36:28 This happens all the time. Some rich dude says "I am donating X million for you to build a new building with my name on it". It is stupid but not some unprecedented evil behavior 08:37:30 Thats not a donation 🤦‍♂️ 08:37:52 Thats a sponsorship 08:40:07 I dont care if its x million or x dollars, donors dont get to earmark donations without prior arrangements. 08:40:07 If they wanted to donate monero.com, they should have gone out and bought it 08:41:58 Arguing that its ok to spend 400k on a domains because a donor expects you to, and also being ok with refunding the money, is insanity at its finest 08:42:52 These funds dont belong to Binaryfate, they belong to the monero project. 08:42:52 They dont belong to the donor. The donation wasnt an accident. It was a stupid and failed attempt 08:43:00 I agree it fits that definition better but saying "soz it's a donation we do what we like" would not look good. The donator was incompetent and it's nice to show some sympathy for incompetency, especially seeing as such a whale might decide to "donate" properly later on if they are shown sympathy. 08:43:02 I dont care if you donate 400million, im not giving you a BJ 08:43:13 Or a refund 08:43:45 Im hiring devs 08:44:50 400k if gf was 4million? Ok. When that donation was a 50% increase to our already low balance, wtf are we talking about refunds and domains? 08:45:01 Hackerone is 100k and gf wants to refund 400? Clown show 08:45:40 No. I will not donate the money WE raise to funds that take orders and give refunds 09:50:16 Xmr 🚀 10:35:26 hello world 10:36:15 Ty plowsof 10:49:42 my bridge works, thank me instead ofrnxmr 10:50:27 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: good 10:51:02 * monerobull[m] uploaded an image: (363KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/fIjnOyelAYYoDXRVhJGAeqHi/grafik.png > 10:51:04 mine was never down 10:55:31 * monerobull[m] uploaded an image: (65KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/zPKLcgmaYUuxpDeoGQYFvwMT/grafik.png > 10:56:54 nobody tell anyone ok 10:57:39 thank you guys 11:22:40 I can't believe devs and community are still discussing if tx_extra should be removed, the unneeded attack vector used by couple obscure services due to laziness 11:23:25 it's like: should we keep using the paper that can be tainted to print bills ? 11:23:46 my only motivation to spam testnet was seeing the mempool size on a public block explorer - with this removed - i feel useless and my week is ruined 11:24:16 i know the coins can't be tainted permanently but the decoys spam can reduce privacy 11:25:50 and now we'll all have to keep on our disks some 8-bit retarded junk art for all the eternity 11:25:57 marvelous 11:28:33 ypavtv97lx: such a removal would be a consensus-level change, requiring a hardfork. You can't just throw those around and jump the gun without warning. There are many services that would be impacted as well 11:30:08 Those services should be well aware of this years old discussion, all we want from Monero it's being Money, we don't need it to be anything else and if some services can't work around with Money then F them. 11:31:17 Monero is working perfectly fine without the need of tx_extra 11:32:00 It's not about being aware, it's about changing and testing new code 11:32:24 we should change the name from tx_extra to tx_extra_bs 11:32:28 And doing it safely without causing potential losses of user money 11:32:29 or just _tx_bullshit 11:32:37 tx_memes 11:32:48 tx_crap_my_disk 11:33:43 We get it, you don't like this. Join the club 11:33:44 And let the pros do their job, or actively contribute yourself 11:34:09 Otherwise it's just noise in the wind 11:34:29 it's not only noise, we're the voice of the community after all 11:35:54 And while you were busy complaining, temporary patches to make life harder for these things are already being pushed 11:36:11 I know it's being limited 11:36:13 But doing things right takes time and work 11:37:06 it will be still too cheap to spam 11:37:17 well 11:37:20 time will tell 11:40:13 merope1: That only means Mr morbs will split the data more and submit more bs tx 11:40:41 Which means they'll have to pay more 11:40:42 And wait more 11:40:54 Yeah few cents more sure 11:41:17 But this harms transaction uniformity more 11:41:20 It's better than nothing, and it adds up 11:41:50 Siren[m]: [Citation needed] 11:41:53 tx_extra is only staying because some unneeded services are using it 11:41:56 that's bs 11:42:12 merope1: We have more stupid tx coming from morbs up for decoy selection 11:42:14 ypavtv97lx[m]: [Citation needed] 11:42:15 There 11:42:29 more spam = less true decoys 11:42:52 Siren[m]: At that point, it would be simpler and cheaper for morbinals to start uploading the IPFS hash instead of bloating the blockchain and spending a lot in fees 11:43:08 citation ? ok, tell me what service is so important that uses tx_extra and that can't be replaced by other service that's not using tx_extra 11:43:18 Siren[m]: No. It means it takes more txes to store the same amount of data. Doesn't necessarily mean that there will be more traffic overall 11:43:31 merope1: It means both and there's more traffic 11:43:41 He keeps going and he won't stop 11:43:44 [Citation needed] 11:44:00 He WILL stop as soon as it turns out all his efforts don't bring profit 11:44:04 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (45KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/DLAJwgxmKlmCoUXkenqbdMJV/grafik_20230328144359.png > 11:44:12 simple as that 11:44:14 lol nice 11:44:22 Siren, whaaa 11:44:25 We can keep making doomsday hypotheticals all day, but none of that will help in any way 11:44:29 i didn't know it was that sever 11:44:31 Siren[m]: endor00: here's your citation 11:44:36 In case you live under a rock 11:44:58 sech1: This is true 11:45:01 I don't 11:45:01 but we need tx_extra because mordinals and is using it 11:46:01 Siren[m]: If you agree with that, then logically you must see how increasing costs and worsening their experience will reduce their impact 11:46:15 lol 11:46:20 The opposite would be a contradiction 11:46:22 state actors won't care 11:46:33 we're now dealing with kids 11:46:38 merope1: What did I just say ypavtv97lx ^ 11:46:39 This is a quick fix, right? tx_extra will be completely removed soon, is this correct? 11:46:42 merope1: Another thing to consider is my disk space and other resources 11:46:48 I don't enjoy higher fees myself either 11:47:27 xfedex[m]: When is Monero Lite dropping lmao 11:47:36 You won't have to pay higher fees 11:47:41 :D 11:49:03 TBH it doesn't look so bad compared to previous transaction spam incidents Monero had before: https://p2pool.io/u/849b56927191041a/image.png 11:50:41 sech1: but sir, why would you look further back to get a broader perspective, instead of adding to the complain spam for the current thing? 11:51:21 morbinals are quite new but they already massively increase the blockchain size. Situation can become worse. 11:51:52 The Tldr is that they arent even really spamming 11:51:55 then push every mining pool to update to v0.18.2.2 once it's released 11:52:04 It always could. Now it's just happening. The sky is not falling 11:52:14 yeah not that bad, reminds me of my car, 4th cylinder is not firing due to faulty spark plug - so what, i can still drive, not that bad... 11:52:21 monero is like my car now 11:52:31 i feel home 11:53:12 Its like someone that shoots you in the foot 11:53:53 They arent aiming at vitals 11:54:17 merope1: The actual spam is happening in the chain 11:58:14 I find the "ehmahgehrd sky is falling and monero devs are doing nothing!!1!11" spam to be much nore annoying 11:58:41 Current notion: We have attack vector that we could easily remove but we're not removing it because no one is currently attacking us with it. 11:58:44 great thinking 11:58:50 No 11:58:52 genius 11:59:04 Its, do you prefer bloated, unusable monero with no rings ? 11:59:12 It's just streisanding this whole thing into existance 11:59:28 Or do you prefer making monero unattractive and trading # of outputs for amount of data storage? 11:59:45 ypavtv97lx[m] if tx_extra is removed, spammers will just use outputs for data storage, it will destroy ring decoys much faster 12:00:03 genius 12:00:09 so we rather have two attack vectros than one ? 12:00:24 genius 12:00:56 Nfts spammers wont steg, attackers will 12:01:03 And they will use outputs even if limit is 1kb 12:01:18 They want limit left alone at 100kb, IR increased 12:01:36 And we actually have people calling for that now 😆 12:01:40 it's one attack vector (known decoys), just two different sides of it 12:01:47 ypavtv97lx: PRs are always welcome 12:01:48 I'm too busy contributing with hashrate 12:02:06 Txextra makes spamming a lot more efficient 12:02:06 well, wouldn't it be better to have one than two different methods to spam ? 12:02:24 yes, have only one method to spam that only makes everything worse 12:02:25 And lets you do double dip on the spam 12:02:39 lol ok 12:02:43 of two evils, we choose the worst, right? 12:03:06 Two evils, bad actors choose both 12:03:07 so you think attacker will split their effort and not use one method ? doesn't make sense 12:03:22 Good actors make it easier by accidentally assissting bad actors 12:03:40 ofrnxmr[m]: So there's a chance they choose the least bad option, instead of 100% the worst one 12:03:40 anyone in favor of tx_extra is glowing 12:03:44 if it was an attack on decoys, it would look totally different 12:03:50 this is not an attack right now 12:03:56 Its not an attack 12:03:58 Right 12:03:59 you think this attackers are that dumb ? 12:04:05 ypavtv97lx[m]: You're glowing :* 12:04:23 nah I'm soviet agent 12:04:27 some attackers are so dumb they can't even write two lines of python code to automate their stuff 12:04:35 But if it wanted to be, 100kb Txextra makes it a walk in the park 12:04:51 bloat attack would use 100 kb tx_extra 12:05:00 decoy attack would spam many 1in/16out transactions 12:05:03 Right now these guys are using Homer Simpsons duck ^^ right sech1: 12:05:12 Neither are happening now 12:05:13 sech1: new Monero slogan: "Monero, bulletproof against dumb attackers!" 12:05:17 This "attack" is either not an attack, or they suck 12:05:48 sech1: You called me down, thank you. 12:05:52 for now. 12:07:29 s/called/calmed/ 13:25:30 I love it when people post graphs w/o a Y axis :D 13:47:05 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (296KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/GBbQUtaSJEHEgqGXqVRfbnWS/ki59nu0hylbndqx4.jpg > 13:47:06 My apologies nioc 13:48:55 adoption was inevitable 13:48:57 Especially important to include the y axis when it doesnt start at 0 13:49:52 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (277KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/nHSuaAlgrqjaCKhHXYsYFxcf/n3alftocmxd9slf7.jpg > 13:50:51 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (152KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/FAknWyhWuCWriHECcxzUCZML/qrormu8qjnbtc2sb.jpg > 14:43:53 "maybe you too need to do some..." <- IMO it's easy for everyone to sell all their other cryptos for MOnero via instant exchanges and CEX's. The question is whether or not they like that's a good idea 17:50:03 These morbinals are such a waste of xmr 17:50:27 Agreed 17:52:01 They make 12 if each if these horribly terrible submissions 17:54:36 Is this dalle art 💀 17:54:45 Its terrible and weird 17:55:20 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (8KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/wGmqwkjcfyxzjyzNAfZKfbUI/871jk9de76ieeivd.jpg > 17:59:12 At least they are frank about it, no? The collection is "Lame Kittens" 18:00:15 They could at least use higher quality and less quantity 18:00:39 And not poison so many decoys, and actually have something that is. .. not scrap 18:01:34 But nope. They're braindead. This is senseless. Just a waste of money considering the passiveness 18:03:21 Do we know something about that Tamás Sengel? I think I saw a screenshot of a fragment of a conversation somebody had with him 18:03:45 Probably on Twitter, https://twitter.com/tamassengel 18:05:28 From a tweet: "Our newest Bitcoin Ordinals NFT collection is live! Check out PryptoCunks, a CryptoPunks parody! 100 items, hand-picked AI-generated results" 18:05:47 hand-picked AI result. Uhu. 18:12:41 Bums 18:22:02 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (34KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/ZXXDgfAcwIeUgcovrpMkEvjm/3g3nlwyyrusjdi1y.jpg > 18:22:08 ^ hes mad at me for rejecting this 18:22:48 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/380 18:35:28 https://twitter.com/anonshopapp/status/1640772749089181696?s=46&t=cQp1x7rAlOjx_WpldEiRiA 18:35:28 This is already fud 18:40:18 "^ hes mad at me for rejecting..." <- But its a holiday ;) 18:41:05 "most cryptocurrencies are open source when they launch" - are there any closed source cryptos? 18:41:24 Yeah 18:41:24 Cbdc 18:47:30 tldr: monero was forked from a scam and inherited bad mining code. for every 1 monero i mined , someone made 50 for the same effort. this lasted for 1 month, and was fixed. 18:47:45 who can fact check or is this the truth sirs 18:48:38 truth 18:49:12 It might be a good idea to compare the possible amount of early XMR mined this way with probable bitcoin owned/mined by Satoshi 18:49:14 thank you geonic 18:49:17 might’ve been less.. a week or two 18:50:09 was a favorite talking point of our old friend fireiceuk 18:50:23 plowsof11: That was me btw 18:52:09 So anon is shitting on monero? Cause it wasn’t optimised initially? 18:52:24 Seems like a way to get views 18:52:36 its the new meta 18:55:14 Meta verse 18:55:58 "It might be a good idea to..." <- There was also the 1 minute blocks > 2 minute blocks 18:56:10