00:05:28 <Lovera[m]> https://twitter.com/ShrtCrct6102/status/1649561513303089152
00:10:44 <charuto> is that a new hardware wallet?
00:13:16 <plowsof11> its called a passport (bitcoin hardware wallet) - they opened up some bounties to add Monero (one of the completed bounties being a monero logo, which you see in that tweet from their head? engineer) https://github.com/mjg-foundation/passport2-monero/issues
00:14:09 <plowsof11> the bounty for the icon https://github.com/mjg-foundation/passport2-monero/issues/2
00:14:12 <charuto> thanks, glad to see more hw wallets with xmr support
00:14:26 <charuto> is there any comparison with ledger and trezor?
00:14:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> They pay bounties in xmr too 
00:14:53 <charuto> are the schematics open source? does it use a secure element?
00:14:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Trezor supports chainalysis
00:15:40 <plowsof11> according to their site, it is "full open source" https://foundationdevices.com/passport/
00:15:55 <charuto> no such thing :)
00:16:04 <plowsof11> i see a secure element image 
00:16:22 <charuto> > Key Components	STM processor, Microchip secure element, Omnivision Cameracube.
00:19:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> >Entropy Sources	TRNG on secure element, open source Avalanche Noise Source.
00:19:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> >Licenses	Electronics and assembly open sourced via CERN OHL v2; software open sourced via GPLv3.
03:44:05 <RavFX[m]> Can they really support monero on that airgapped passport thing?
03:44:05 <RavFX[m]> As I monero hardware wallet user, something that is still present since the beginning, is the requirement of having the wallet connected, unlocked, and with the monero application open, to be able to receive transaction (Monero official wallet and feather pause syncing when it hit a block with a transaction for me, if the wallet is not online)
03:45:23 <RavFX[m]> Feather wallet allow hw waller connection then I can continue syncing
03:45:23 <RavFX[m]> Monero GUI Wallet, There is nothing to do but the close and relaunch the wallet if I receive a transaction and the thing is not online and unlocked
05:02:55 <DataHoarder> RavFX[m]: you can create view-only wallets with ledger/etc. by exporting the view keys, just not exposed on GUI properly
05:03:22 <DataHoarder> afaik it pauses cause it cannot check if the output is spent
05:03:35 <DataHoarder> that it needs to verify with the hw wallet itself
05:32:06 <Lovera[m]> There is no fully open source SE… I only know Trezor, that is working on it
05:32:41 <Lovera[m]> https://tropicsquare.com/
05:37:25 <Lovera[m]> Most SE, including those of BitBox, ColdCard and Foundation, have closed Firmware…
05:42:41 <ceetee[m]> Could one build a secure element based on a secure Cortex M21 MCU like a SAML11?
05:44:29 <ceetee[m]> persistent data would be difficult sure, but putting sensitive data in the secure ram and adding a backup battery would be okey for a wallet?
05:47:39 <dmau[m]> Hi there. Does anyone know if I can find the slides used in the famous 'Monero Means Money' talk, and if I can use some of them for a public presentation? Had a look around online and the associated website, but could not find anything. Thanks.
06:37:21 <MSvB[m]> There is the SE050 that Kastelo uses ceetee🇧🇪 Lovera @btclovera:matrix.org which has an open API and no NDA requirement. It supports the Monero (Montgomery and Edwards) curves which is why we chose it for Kastelo.
06:38:07 <MSvB[m]> Another SE with the curve will appear this year, a very welcome development.
08:38:48 <Lovera[m]> <MSvB[m]> "There is the SE050 that Kastelo..." <- Oh sure!! ❤️ but is there some news about Kastelo? 
09:02:59 <MSvB[m]> This news is about SE supply, the Kastelo design has not changed. If the new SE appears then we will probably change the design to integrate it.
09:03:36 <MSvB[m]> That news will only happen after the SE manufacturer begins distributing.
12:31:17 <plowsof11> No meeting today, but on the 29th https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/828 . there is an events meeting in 3.5hrs~ 17:00utc #monero-events:monero.social 
21:17:39 <plowsof11> nice video Lovera, how to set up BTC pay server for the Spanish community https://nitter.it/BTClovera/status/1649749620782690304 👍️