02:56:34 <jonjones2000[m]> <r4v3r23[m]> "feather wallet makes it pretty..." <- Thanks.  Any options for mobile?  To use an old mobile phone as an airgapped hardware wallet for monero?
03:39:39 <r4v3r23[m]> <jonjones2000[m]> "Thanks.  Any options for mobile?..." <- anonero team has a prototype view-only wallet that acts as the online partner in a hardware wallet setup
03:40:00 <r4v3r23[m]> theyre also working on the offline part, so you can use an old mobile phone as the signing device
03:41:01 <r4v3r23[m]> throw them a donation to help fund the feature :)
04:40:22 <jonjones2000[m]> <r4v3r23[m]> "theyre also working on the..." <- Ok.  Good.  Is this the only team working on offline signing for mobile?
04:41:30 <r4v3r23[m]> jonjones2000[m]: i havent seen it in any other mobile wallet
04:45:23 <nioc> Isn't monerujo also working on something like this?
04:46:02 <nioc> Eta = future
04:51:11 <r4v3r23[m]> it works with bluetooth, so not airgapped
06:05:09 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> <nioc> "Eta = future" <- island time
07:53:16 <nioc> My kind of time
09:47:55 <monerooo[m]> Moner.ooo Update - CLP & MXN added and Hotfixes 
13:52:57 <luks2[m]> would yall trust any other privacy coins?
14:43:31 <naphtha[m]> why not
14:43:33 <naphtha[m]> i just wouldnt use it
14:48:19 <jeffro256[m]> <rbrunner> "uint64 is what all the Monero..." <- Fun fact: In ~1.8 years , the total supply of piconero will exceed the value of a uint64_t
14:50:05 <jeffro256[m]> That’ll be Monero’s Y2K ;)
14:53:47 <anhdres[m]> <nioc> "Isn't monerujo also working on..." <- Kinda. SideKick! It's a companion app on a separate phone that connects via Bluetooth and acts as a Ledger Nano X, basically.
16:00:59 <rbrunner> jeffro256[m]: In 1.8 years? That's a bit surprising. That's more or less tomorrow ... Does that mean we better hurry with Seraphis, because who wants to switch that in the existing codebase?
17:57:10 <ceetee[m]> does the total amount even matter for everyday use? As long as you send less than 18M XMR the math involved should be the same, right?
17:59:05 <rbrunner> It does matter in all the places where the code deals internally with that total amount. I don't have a clear idea how many these are.
17:59:53 <naphtha[m]> rbrunner: does it even know the total amount?
18:00:34 <rbrunner> Good question. It certainly has code to calculate it ...
18:11:24 <boog900[m]> It's stored in the DB as a u64 in mdb_block_info_4 for each block but its not stored in the actual blockchain
18:11:49 <boog900[m]> its used to calculate the block reward 
18:16:24 <ceetee[m]> makes sense! thanks for explaining
18:35:34 <rbrunner> I brought it up at the Seraphis workgroup meeting, and result is "probably no big deal". Apocalypse is postponed :)
18:41:29 <boog900[m]> Its used in block reward calculations so if it overflows we are gunna get emission 2 (tm) right? 
18:44:58 <boog900[m]> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/94e67bf96bbc010241f29ada6abc89f49a81759c/src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_basic_impl.cpp#LL83C85-L83C108
18:45:47 <naphtha[m]> yo @boog900 you just reminded me
18:45:58 <naphtha[m]> why dont you and @someoneelse495495 get on that monero crowdfunding thingy for cuprate?
18:49:16 <boog900[m]> maybe sometime in the future I have been busy the past few weeks so haven't actually had much time for Cuprate 
20:28:13 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Or css
20:39:17 <boog900[m]> <DanrdarkIsnotthe> "Or css" <- still traumatized /s