10:39:26 <azerx> hi guys, is there any way to see how many nodes are online for monero? xmrchain.net shows only 240 but i'm sure there are more....monero.fail/map says 26853 on 24h so is that the "real" number of active full nodes? 
10:39:58 <recanman[m]> No "official" way, it's just based on how many you can connect to I think
10:46:28 <azerx> ah i see, so is it closer to 240 or 26853? its 100x on the latter :)
10:47:40 <recanman[m]> Closer to 26853 :)
10:48:35 <recanman[m]> xmrchain.net uses monero.fail. Monero.fail tracks nodes, and you can submit them. Monero.fail/map shows all nodes that has connected to.
10:48:45 <recanman[m]>  * xmrchain.net links to monero.fail. Monero.fail tracks nodes, and you can submit them. Monero.fail/map shows all nodes that has connected to.
10:53:38 <azerx> ok so then during the last 24h it has connected to 26k unique nodes then right? if so that is pretty great adoption
11:17:34 <Rucknium[m]> azerx: If data doesn't have a published methodology, you should question the reliability of that data.
11:17:57 <recanman[m]> https://github.com/lalanza808/monero.fail
11:18:03 <recanman[m]> Source of the aggregator
11:19:08 <recanman[m]> <azerx> "ok so then during the last 24h..." <- There is also the possibility of a psuedo node https://github.com/basil00/PseudoNode
11:19:13 <Rucknium[m]> Nice. I haven't seen the backend code yet for monero.fail
11:19:15 <Rucknium[m]> Here's another one you can run yourself: https://github.com/endorxmr/monero-node-p2p-scanner
11:19:43 <recanman[m]> recanman[m]: It relays transactions and everything, but instead of downloading the blockchain and verifying, it depends on another (real) node.
11:21:22 <Rucknium[m]> Yes, it it hard to verify that a "node" you see on the network is a real full node.
11:21:49 <recanman[m]> Yeah, after all, you are trusting the node, "never trust the client" applies here, they can just return data from another.
11:53:46 <azerx> Thanks for all the info :) have to look into it a bit more, not a dev as i used to be hehe but great info cheers
15:10:17 <n1oc> j-berman full-time development (3 months) is now fully funded! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/j-berman-3months-full-time-5.html @luigi1111
15:10:18 <n1oc> Continued Feather Wallet development (3 months) is now fully funded! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/tobtoht-feather-dev-2023-3.html @luigi1111
15:10:43 <recanman[m]> It was just at 0 and 0.21 a few hours ago
15:12:12 <tobtoht[m]> woww :D
15:16:57 <nioc> recanman[m]: actually 0.01 and 0.22  :)
15:17:29 <nioc> both were then completed with a single donation  0_o
15:17:34 <recanman[m]> s/It/They/, s/was/were/
15:17:43 <recanman[m]> One singular monero whale is funding all ccs proposals
15:17:58 <recanman[m]> No such thing as "monero community"
15:18:02 <recanman[m]> New conspiracy theory
15:18:11 <nioc> probably the cia  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
15:18:25 <recanman[m]> Maybe
15:22:32 <dukenukem> nioc!
15:53:24 <r4v3r23[m]> <nioc> "probably the cia  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)" <- based CIA
15:53:31 <r4v3r23[m]> some one tell them about ANONERO
16:19:17 <nioc> dukenukem: wut up