03:04:31 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> we are all not ofrnxmr
03:04:49 <m-relay> <x​x_raxer_oof_xx:matrix.org> who the fuck is ofrn
03:19:29 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Tech support
03:19:30 <m-relay> <x​x_raxer_oof_xx:matrix.org> what you mean tech support
03:19:41 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Also we are all “rotten” btw
03:39:31 <dukenukem> Je suis rotten!
06:03:45 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> My Latest CCS Milestone Payout Request: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/390#note_22309
10:19:45 <m-relay> <e​udaimon36:matrix.org> Meaning, he helps more people than anyone else on all Monero rooms, yet he's banned for being too brash
11:20:03 <nioc> I thought he only was temp banned in -events 
11:21:50 <nioc> along with another person 
11:23:34 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Nope
11:23:36 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Mod reso
11:25:36 <nioc> I thought 2 weeks
11:26:26 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Happened recently
11:26:50 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> From hidden entity that no one asked for him to be banned
11:30:08 <nioc> since you seem to know what's gong on bob I will have to assume that you are ofrn 
11:30:29 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Always
13:44:30 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> jeffro256: Thanks! Do you think you will be able to finish your "decoding" of wallet2's decoy selection algorithm by the end of this last month of the CCS?
13:45:47 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> I think I shared this with you already, but in case not: here is some work on the wallet2 DSA that mj and I did last year https://github.com/Rucknium/monero-mrl-mj/tree/master/decoy
13:45:47 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> It may be useful to you. It might not.
14:11:41 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> So what wait.
14:11:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Monero thrive to be censor resistant but we permanently ban relatively useful and contributing people by hidden request?
15:15:01 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> who was permanently banned by hidden request?
15:15:53 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> ofrnxmr
15:16:50 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> fake news
15:16:53 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> making false claims does not help anyone involved
15:18:13 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> they were not following the rules so they received a temporary 14 day ban on a specific channel. that's all. there's no need to create unnecessary drama.
15:18:18 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> there was no hidden request no cabal agenda
15:33:50 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> im not a whinging cunt, thanks
15:34:08 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> he was banned?
15:35:35 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> for 14 days supposedly. Been a while already.
15:35:35 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Somehow I did misread Dan and began to thing it was permanent and now half of my NW is still in the various mempool
15:35:55 <plowsof> Me and the other ofrnxmr alts nervously looking at each other praying he doesnt have to list us all to get unbanned
15:36:23 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> yeah he needs to take a breather
15:36:32 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> always trying to be right over petty shit
15:36:59 <nioc> 14 day breather has been over for a while now 
15:40:05 <m-relay> <x​mrscott:monero.social> For events yes, and they were unbanned. Unfortunately, they choose to repeatedly violate the rules elsewhere after and incurred a new one there less than 24 hours ago
15:41:24 <nioc> I haven't seen them post.  How could they get banned while not posting?
15:50:35 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> #resolutions:monero.social is matrix only atm?
15:51:01 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> #monero-matrix-drama
15:52:55 <dukenukem> plowsof seems to be, yeah.
15:53:14 <dukenukem> #monero-resolutions wen?
16:00:17 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 185: September 1 - 7, 2023. https://revuo-xmr.com/issue-185.html
16:20:04 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Is there a list of rules?
18:10:19 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> > You are expected to follow Matrix.org and LiberaChat's Code of Conduct: https://matrix.org/legal/code-of-conduct/ https://libera.chat/policies/
18:10:19 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> from the -resolutions topic
18:11:11 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> > You are expected to follow Matrix.org and LiberaChat's Code of Conduct: https://matrix.org/legal/code-of-conduct/ https://libera.chat/policies/
18:11:11 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> from the -resolutions topic
18:11:18 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> > You are expected to follow Matrix.org and LiberaChat's Code of Conduct: https://matrix.org/legal/code-of-conduct/ https://libera.chat/policies/
18:11:18 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> from the -resolutions topic
18:15:21 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> > You are expected to follow Matrix.org and LiberaChat's Code of Conduct: https://matrix.org/legal/code-of-conduct/ https://libera.chat/policies/
18:15:21 <m-relay> <c​harutocafe:matrix.org> from the #resolutions:monero.social topic
18:49:19 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> That disclaimer should be in the description of each and every room
18:50:45 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Otherwise I'm making tiny rooms with odd rules and hold you liable to those as well
19:36:12 <geonic> Just go to 4chan if you don’t won’t to follow normal rules of discourse
19:36:14 <geonic> problem solved
19:41:53 <geonic> Although I’m not sure why someone is getting banned in a channel different from where their violations occurred. Mods will mod I guess.
19:44:35 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> can't point to rules that don't exist, my comment wasn't about the rules themselfs
19:44:44 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> ofrn tool the drama to the drama room where it belongs, but mods didn't like that either
19:45:04 <geonic> So why ban him in -events again? Universal ban would be more fitting.
19:45:40 <geonic> Guess they just extended the “punishment”
19:46:57 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> is he? I don't think so
19:47:23 <nioc> geonic: by those rules you could also be banned 
19:47:32 <nioc> others as well
19:48:26 <geonic> Well, technically I was. And now I’m not and he is. Guess there’s a difference.
19:48:44 <geonic> ctrej: read xmrscott’s comment again
19:48:59 <nioc> if he comes back maybe you can get banned again  lol
19:49:25 <geonic> I offered the mods the ban as a solution, which they accepted. I’ll take another ban to get rid of him.
19:50:19 <geonic> “But think of all the people who need tech support” :p
19:50:58 <m-relay> <x​mrscott:monero.social> The mods did not extend the ban in -events. "For events yes, and they were unbanned. Unfortunately, they choose to repeatedly violate the rules elsewhere after and incurred a new one there less than 24 hours ago". "There" refers to "elsewhere", not -events
19:51:21 <nioc> he has always treated me politely and with respect 
19:51:29 <geonic> Ah, got it. I assume he’s banned in resolutions
19:51:41 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> >I'll take another ban to get rid of him
19:51:55 <geonic> nioc: make a ccs proposal he doesn’t like and see how it works out
19:51:57 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Can I get that framed?
19:52:15 <geonic> Is this ofrn speaking?
19:52:16 <nioc> geonic: I can't do that  :)
19:52:35 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> never has
19:52:41 <geonic> yes, ofrn can frame it
19:52:46 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> This
19:53:53 <geonic> harassing people over a merged ccs is pretty low. If there isn’t a rule against that there should be
19:54:10 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://matrix.org/legal/code-of-conduct/
19:54:10 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> This applies to conversation in the any room in the Matrix Space (#team:matrix.org)
19:54:30 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Where monero.social
19:54:35 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Loop hole 1
19:54:59 <nioc> but but but matrix is better than IRC
19:55:14 <plowsof> Be excellent to each other :(((((
19:55:33 <geonic> It’s all bridged to IRC so read Libera’s policies
19:55:48 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> IRC work on everything less than 40 years old, Matrix don't
19:55:48 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Matrix don't offer anything more really
19:56:15 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Threats of violence, both physical and psychological
19:56:17 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> L m f a o
19:56:18 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Anyways
19:56:46 <nioc> plowsof: something everyone should have learned by 4 years old  
19:56:57 <geonic> Right
19:57:50 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Does the framed message violate any rules? xmrscott @xmrscott:monero.social:
19:57:54 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Monero please follow rules and report transactions
19:57:54 <geonic> but when you’re an internet nym you don’t have to worry about little Timmy punching you in the face :p
19:57:55 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> I have no clue why this community accepts people like geonic. Man, he’s infesting this community with his fithy talk. Where is the mods, why don’t they do something about him?
19:58:06 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> I need a referent for your threshold of "be nice"
19:58:40 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> I need a frame of reference for your threshold of "be nice"
19:59:12 <louipc> report transactions wtf?
19:59:34 <geonic> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Howd you get merged bud? Who's cock were your massaging?
19:59:34 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Need too follow them rules
19:59:48 <geonic> ^ this definitely exceeds the threshold
20:00:17 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Apperantly yes
20:00:22 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Unwelcome sexual attention, including gratuitous or off-topic sexual images or behaviour
20:00:23 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> I want to know where the line is drawn
20:00:25 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Mods?
20:00:41 <geonic> Go to resolutions if you want to challenge the mods
20:01:54 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Not challenging asking, these are the rules they said to follow
20:02:13 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Rule for the and not for me
20:02:18 <geonic> maybe you can get yourself a ban too  #solidarity
20:02:41 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> geonic Icm not not challenging mods, but I'd like an elaboration of the unwritten rules by which people in monero rooms are judged
20:02:52 <geonic> What’s unwritten about the links you were given
20:03:10 <geonic> ask your mom what’s appropriate behavior on the playground. same rules apply
20:03:50 <louipc> if i'll get you punched in the face in real life that applies
20:03:59 <louipc> *it'll
20:04:06 <nioc> ct do you mean application of the rules?
20:04:17 <geonic> Ya, that’s a good rule of thumb
20:04:54 <nioc> you probably won't get punched by me so........
20:04:55 <nioc> lol
20:05:03 <geonic> you’ll just send the cat to handle it
20:05:09 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> nioc exactly. Is everything geonic said today fine? Am I allowed to use the same phrases whenever I please?
20:05:36 <geonic> Yes you may, sir. I grant you permission to quote me.
20:06:02 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> you are not a mod, I wasn't asking you
20:06:14 <geonic> And nioc is? Lol
20:07:18 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Nioc is cat
20:07:23 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> the questions are not directed towards him, I merely elaborated on my question towards xmrscott
20:07:27 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Higher level
20:11:16 <geonic> Too bad about the millions who will be left without tech support. Guess more people will just RTFM.
20:11:46 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> Please leave geonic, you’re of no value here.
20:12:04 <geonic> Ok alt #98571
20:12:41 <geonic> please give your serial number before speaking next time
20:12:45 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Heres a novel idea ignore
20:12:51 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Naa, they are going to just use btc.
20:12:51 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> LN is really easy to use with Electrum wallet, kind of like 2 click, no nodes needed
20:13:16 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yest
20:13:21 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Chain split?
20:13:46 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Rav option lto is ongoing
22:21:23 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Yes, sorry I keep putting it off, but I plan to work on that more this month. I was planning to work on it this last month, but I got sidetracked with those Jamtis changes (I didn't know I was going to do that before I did it)
22:35:49 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑 {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> Wagwan
22:42:40 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> jeffro256: Thanks!
23:52:44 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Pinging luigi1111 for CCS payment since I just realized he/she's not in the other room