01:19:34 Right? lol 01:20:29 I knew Australia was going to get to this point eventually, sad to see. 05:55:02 It's for environmental reasons. Less paper money = saving the environment. /s 06:25:31 I'm sure they could spin that and someone would believe it 07:26:22 everything need to be written in rust 07:26:38 and their should be many forks 07:27:00 of multiple software and implementation 08:47:35 how do you buy things with monero? 08:48:10 things like groceries and fast food? 08:55:45 { 08:55:45 "question": "Where can I find merchants accepting Monero?", 08:55:46 "answer": "You can find merchants who accept Monero as payment on platforms like Cryptwerk (https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/) and Monerica (https://monerica.com/). These websites provide lists of businesses, both online and physical, that accept Monero." 08:55:46 } 09:01:14 thanks and wasnt there a bunch of sites that let you turn monero into gift cards? 09:02:11 in monerica there is a section for it search for: Giftcards 09:42:31 is monerica.com owned by cakewallet ? 09:43:00 because I only see this kind of shady things by cakewallet people 09:43:21 7 days ago my site was listed on https://monerica.com/#exchanges 09:44:10 maybe I got this wrong, but their site is open-source but index.html file isn't 09:44:14 https://github.com/monerica-project/monerica/tree/main/src/DirectoryManager 09:44:25 but from this pull 3 days ago 09:44:45 https://github.com/monerica-project/monerica/pull/90/commits 09:45:01 you can see content of index.html 09:45:04 https://github.com/monerodice/monerica/blob/487419b43d0b32d774028af2c747b4eb63e14eac/src/index.html 09:46:14 where you can see I am listed between kwenta.eth.limo and www.morphtoken.com 09:46:26 Don't know if there is cake wallet behind. Are you saying your website has been added? Are you not happy? 09:46:34 but not on the live site 09:48:00 You can request again here I guess https://monerica.com/submit 09:48:01 But if that's been merged will be live sooner or later I don't know their Ci cd process 09:49:59 wouldn't be a thing 09:50:02 if shadow removall 09:50:25 wasn't on same date as https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2117 09:50:44 their pr merged on getmonerosite, so we got merged, fuck mb 09:53:37 this is not a community project, but a corporate with their own agenda 09:56:10 Is this your website 09:56:14 https://monerodice.pro/ 09:57:22 I see it in the live website 10:07:45 MajesticBank in the index.html @ https://github.com/monerodice/monerica/blob/487419b43d0b32d774028af2c747b4eb63e14eac/src/index.html#L2180 (but not on the live site) - monerodice was added to index (after mb) and can be seen on the live site 10:14:40 Is it a rendering error? lol 10:16:16 there must be good explanation tho, no way they would just shadow remove someone after being listed 10:16:58 I have created an issue to ask for the whereabouts of the "real" index.html 10:22:47 I see it in the live website. 10:22:47 Edit: obviously it's not that one. 😵‍💫 10:24:51 Community meeting today 4-hrs35mins https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/893 10:45:39 FCMP retroactive -;10 updoot += jtgrassie,ofrnxmr (+berman but it will pay his wages so coi there) vs 0 downdoot += 6 in comments who are against/abstain/not 100% for other reasons. Now then, its a no brainer to merge it? 10:59:52 By the way I see majestic bank here: 10:59:53 https://github.com/monerica-project/monerica/blob/65397c7bf8cf647f90febeaf336836ea63a024f6/src/DirectoryManager/DirectoryManager.Web/index.html#L2180 10:59:53 In the main branch 11:00:43 https://github.com/monerica-project/monerica/blob/main/src/DirectoryManager/DirectoryManager.Web/index.html 11:02:26 There must be some sync issues. I think they have been making changes lately 11:04:37 I don't see the point to start saying 'corporate and agenda' as soon as there is a small issue. 11:34:51 Better metrics than the oscar 11:35:10 🔥😆 11:37:02 if were excluding COI, how tf did i get banned by vp of geonics doublr vote 11:38:34 who's __ck do i have to massage to get kayas ccs merged on a random tuesday? luigi1111: 11:40:49 In all seriousness, i was banned for asking about a bs coi movie scam that is about to claim the second half of the scam money 11:40:49 banned by vp of vc backer lol 11:41:03 all days of the week are random as the week only exists in the mind of humans 11:41:39 The weak exist in the physical though :D, nioc 11:42:46 Geonics vote against kaya is cucked too 11:43:32 The sob (geonic) got a milestone 0 (12k or so) for a movie _not_ featuring monero that _will not_ win an oscar 11:44:02 But says kaya ccs should be killed due to retroactive? 11:44:20 Majestic votes "ill kick his head in" 11:45:01 so we respect double voters and malicious __ck massagers 11:45:48 I bet that ofrn doesn't live with a cat 11:46:31 There are valid no votes, like koe, but ive spoken to koe and i highly doubt his no is meant to block the ccs 11:48:10 Geonic's no id just a pathetic drunk hippo wuth sore knees/jaw being a hippo 11:48:34 I recall that hippo saying plowsof should cuz rates in half 11:48:57 I recall that hippo saying diego made too much (7k) 11:49:38 But the hippo wants 25k with 0 deliverables? Damn hippos 11:50:09 I recall that hippo saying plowsof should cut his rates in half 11:51:27 Many absolutely terrible ccs get merged. This is contentious, and perhaps is presented in a less than ideal fashion. 11:51:50 Pay the man or cry about it later 11:52:13 Its not like we have 3 kayas available, or sarang, or koe 11:53:02 Koe = haitus 11:53:03 kaya = volunteer 11:53:03 sarang = i need to eat, so.. im where they feed me 11:53:38 Lets push kaya out, and keep geonic and solopt 😭😭😝😁 11:54:33 I do tho 11:54:47 I think 11:56:22 If were worried about setting precedent, we should cancel geonics ccs 11:57:07 But were not. Kaya will be merged behind our backs if the right person(s) say so. Votes dont matter 11:57:57 If votes matter, kill geodude ccs OR exclude geodude votes cuz he has a COI 11:58:24 Cant both pay a scammer, and have that scammer fud everyone who isnt a scammer 12:00:57 If my friend tried to block kaya ccs, id kick him in the head with the keyboard 12:01:49 Ban ofrn, count bribejestic's votes 🙈 12:02:09 Mr altspamjestic votes 12:03:07 Oh damn.. im early. Meeting soon? 12:03:10 I wonder why ppl said my name so much, but have been mia since i came bk. Weirdos 12:04:34 Kick kaya in the face, lol? Lol, theb bribejestic gets a private warning 12:05:04 Know how mny warnings i got before i was banned? None. Cuck bitch threatened my after the fact 12:05:08 Ne* 12:05:24 Me* 12:05:41 Idk bout some of thus bs 12:05:54 Cowards get pushed around by scammers 12:06:34 But think their lil acorns are big enough to deal with me. Go practice using your tough guy skills against the scanmers and charlatans 12:09:54 Damn pathetic getting dogwalked by a drunk geodude, bribejestic, mj-litigation, msvb etc etc. 12:09:54 i respect ruck and koe votes. Geodude and scamjestic votes are malicious 12:30:40 <123bob123:matrix.org> Tldr? 12:31:00 merge kaya fcmp retroactive ccs 12:31:23 And stop respecting votes of scammers and vp of coi 12:50:21 Actually, i see 0 downvotes. Sone negative feedback, but no downvotes. 12:54:06 <123bob123:matrix.org> Didnt someone say not to use the up/down as a form of for and against? Just put comments :/ 12:54:34 Idk, wasnt here 12:56:03 i see 12:56:03 - plowsof pkaying it safe 12:56:03 - raver being a hater as usual, yet voting to merge never ending bs like the sdk and molly "not" featuring monero 12:56:04 - Rucknium for securit proofs 12:56:04 - geonic being worthless again 12:56:52 - bribejestic 12:57:35 I think kaya ccs is obviously "merge last tuesday" considering seraphis is basically retroactive as well 12:57:43 It has no proofs, code isnt reviewed 12:58:12 Geonics ccs doesnt feature monero and is half the cost of kayas. 12:58:21 Sdk bs is as much as this 12:58:53 And this is _acual code_.. not haveno or sdk vaporware 13:09:42 And bermans vote counts, if all of geonics COI votes counted, riiight? 13:11:12 if i was involved in this ccs, and didnt get merged, id just raise my rates significantly to repay the disrespect 13:47:15 We’re going live in an hour! 13:47:15 👀➡️ https://youtube.com/watch?v=G99IPha14mY 13:47:15 🎙➡️ https://streamyard.com/epz8q6dymd 13:47:16 🐦➡️ https://x.com/i/spaces/1LyxBnMeQWWxN 14:16:45 are we yelling again 14:18:41 I think I'll merge it if there's an expiration for funds gathering and plan for underfunding 14:18:59 any opinions 14:23:03 Im ok with that. What were you thinking for an expiration? 14:23:24 kayabanerve: 14:43:29 meeting in 15 minutes 14:47:49 🦍 14:51:23 Do we know if we could qualify to get the monerod ports into the well-known portlist? 15:00:09 Meeting time: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/893 15:00:37 hi 15:00:42 greetings! hello 15:00:54 Hello. 15:00:57 hey there 15:02:20 Cat is here 15:02:40 Hello 15:02:47 lets discuss some highlights while we wait for people to roll in 15:03:31 selsta has been putting the next release together (18.3) - currently undergoing some testing - so if you want to compile the release v18 branch and put up a node, please do! 15:04:22 moneros next hardfork will more than likely be to implement tevadors PoW verification changes (to mitigate denial of service attacks against nodes) more info here: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8827 15:04:39 Nice 🚀 15:04:47 this hardfork gives an opportunity for some RandomX changes: https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/pull/274 that will give "free" hashes to some AMD cpus (around >+8% in testing) (best palce to ask about this is in #monero-pow) 15:05:35 nodes anti-ddos is important, great work 15:06:04 Monero celebrates its 80 millionth output (via p2pool observer, the only explorer with a tor link? thanks to sech1 outputs https://p2pool.io/explorer/tx/5dbd3a47b1174d0442aed9f4ad87e5704b2b905e35a2e4e288649b422c1aea8b 15:06:19 s/observer/explorer 15:06:59 Both work :P p2pool.observer 15:07:34 in #monero-community-dev spackle_xmr shared a churning script (working off of Monerujos pocketchange methods) "I've put up 3 python scripts for wallet management via RPC: Fracture, Consolidate, and Churn. See here: https://github.com/spackle-xmr/MoneroTools/" 15:08:39 whoever is doing the churning research should look at spackles work as well 15:09:51 https://bitcart.ai/ (a full featured crypto payment processor) being used in the wild @ monerosupplies.com (payment in XMR/BTC/LTC/BCH) 15:10:37 monerobull had issues with the monero wordpress / monero-php being blocked by a new host or something, and now has bitcart as an alternative 15:11:18 MrNaif is the developer ... hopefully they gain support for helping Monerokon somewhere 15:12:38 any other community highlights people want to talk about? [Revuo Monero](https://revuo-xmr.com/) - [The Monero Standard](https://localmonero.co/the-monero-standard) 15:14:05 I would like to mention that monerica.com shadow removed me from their website 15:14:14 2 CCS projects shared updates also: [Monero Garden](https://twitter.com/anhdres/status/1702303928530936206?t=eWOsKH_nwVqAGieL4Ziluw&s=19) / [Haveno](https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/releases) (testers for haveno welcome) #haveno:haveno.network 15:14:32 on similar date as they listing on getmonero site is approved https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2117 15:14:53 i made an issue about this, and it was closed today with a comment https://github.com/monerica-project/monerica/issues/129 15:15:31 Yeah now I'm really close to have the text ready. I have to learn the whole GitHub publishing thing 15:15:32 in the index.html @ https://github.com/monerodice/monerica/blob/487419b43d0b32d774028af2c747b4eb63e14eac/src/index.html#L2180 (but not on the live site) - monerodice was added to index (after mb) and can be seen on the live site 15:15:39 oh so site is offline, makes sense 15:15:44 sorry anhdres, i meant to tag you ! 15:15:45 And right after will start working on the images 15:17:08 thank you for the update ⚽️🦶 15:17:24 Technically haveno isnt a ccs oroject 15:17:39 The frontend is, and the frontend has no updates 15:17:56 (we have to keep saying it is so we get our 0.0001% returns) 15:18:13 Hello 15:19:05 Lovera and 4rkal posted some new ccs proposals since the last meeting, seems like anough people are here to jump into the merge list 15:20:18 right, again, recanmanns: 15:20:29 a. [recanman to take over Monero integrations pt. 3](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/402) 15:21:09 Hehe 15:21:14 another dev appears to have re-written their own fork of the monero-php library which may have solved the issues from milestone 1 in the "Monero integrations" proposal 15:21:22 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/402#note_22340 15:21:25 Is anyone actually using that plugin 🤔 /s 15:22:10 however, that work has to be 'made sense of' / adapted / and worked into the official monero-php library - all this, for 4 xmr 15:23:34 and milestone 2 , Monero Woocommerce payment gateway maintenance, is uneffected, with 7 xmr in funds. i feel the proposal is unaffected and support recanmann to take it over (basically give serhack a helping hand, who is busy) 15:26:43 I +1 what plowsof said 15:27:58 thanks for the feedback, we can move on if nobody has a comment 15:28:06 @nobody 15:28:13 @nobody 15:28:15 Lmao 15:28:20 Jinx 15:28:24 lol 15:28:42 next 15:28:43 ok moving on 15:28:45 b. [Add retroactive funding proposal for FCMPs](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/403) 15:29:08 is this like that Tesla proposal? 15:29:22 close it already 15:29:23 Merge with expiry 15:29:25 luigi "I think I'll merge it if there's an expiration for funds gathering and plan for underfunding" 15:29:40 so it will be merged 15:29:40 Merge 15:29:49 Movie ccs was retroactive 15:29:51 ``` 15:29:51 I think I'll merge it if there's an expiration for funds gathering and plan for underfunding 15:29:52 ``` 15:30:11 Movie ccs has 0 potential roi 15:30:21 For all intents and purposes. We have precedence 15:30:27 Frontend ccs is vaporware 15:30:38 Kayas ccs is actual code 15:30:56 Solopt is "optional milestones w*th full pay" 15:31:31 While it shoyldnt set precedent, i believe kaya's attempt to get started before putting up the ccs was in good faith 15:31:32 this merge will bring more good then bad, but I guess we can give him 1 month period to get funded 15:31:43 He coukd be like molly and just never deliver, right lol 15:31:47 otherwise put funds back to general fund 15:31:51 3 months 15:32:03 3 months better than 1 15:32:07 jet fund* 15:32:32 iirc kayaba intends on putting up another ccs for further work (but isnt promising anything) 15:32:32 Aka, go towards other dev proposals 15:32:55 yes. Fcmp, this is just part 1. Still need a lot of work to actually implement (proofs, audits, yadayada) 15:33:26 hopefully he didnt overwork himself and needs a hiatus 15:33:35 Kaya didn't accept any recommendation from the community, not even one 15:33:40 it's a disgrace 15:33:46 I don't think that people will be motivated to donate if it misses the goal and the funds go to the GF 15:33:49 Majestic doesnt have ears or eyes 15:33:59 Bribejestic shh 15:34:06 I want devs to be funded 15:34:06 Go kick a keyboard 15:34:17 There has been less activity on serai GitHub this week 😬 15:34:29 Me too nioc: and not shit copy pasta elitewallet devs 15:34:52 Maybe a milestone in fundraising 15:35:01 Just so he can pay the people he already hired for the work 15:35:05 thats usually why workers are forbidden to work so many hours a week 15:35:27 I thought it was so i had to take 2 jobs and not get overtime? 15:35:31 This is putting salt in mouth of other people around monero, just saying, how you can do something on your own and ask payment whichever you want later 15:35:51 Ask geonic 15:35:58 Maybe he can tell you 15:36:23 Majestic, FCMP is arguably wanted by everyone 15:36:36 ^^^^^^^^^^ 15:36:52 You missed the comments on then ccs I guess then 15:36:55 Its research funding as far as im concerned. 15:36:56