00:12:53 <m-relay> <m​onerochad> Is the guy still available?(jk) 😹
00:13:19 <m-relay> <p​atchy319.eth {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> 💀
01:17:03 <m-relay> <a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Ho lee sheet the meeting was today
01:17:11 <m-relay> <a​lpharabius:matrix.org> I should've came (pause)
07:41:07 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Made a Reddit-thread yesterday on the release of the tail emission video, might need some support with upvotes and comments: 
07:41:07 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/16w8mqa/now_live_monero_communitys_ccsfunded_tail/
07:44:05 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Made a thread on Reddit yesterday on the release of the tail emission video, might need some support with upvotes and comments: 
07:44:05 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/16w8mqa/now\_live\_monero\_communitys\_ccsfunded\_tail/
09:19:12 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> vostoemisio:  could i upload this video to the monero community channel?
09:19:34 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> video is great
09:19:36 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> good work
09:23:46 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Please do 👌
09:23:46 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> And thanks, happy you like it
09:50:44 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRwSqM0YBto
10:25:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is the video _final_?
10:25:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Breaks naming scheme
10:25:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nvm. Ajs has me on ignore. Carry on
10:28:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> There were some suggestions at the meeting- i think one about removing the line about miners raising fees. So - im not sure if this is the final version? (if not, it shouldnt be UPLOADED to the community channel just yet)
10:28:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Can still link to your Vost channel's video.
10:29:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Wrong room to ask. And wrong person/people to ask...
10:30:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <@ajs_:matrix.org> vostoemisio:  could i upload this video to the monero community channel?
10:30:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Edit: ofrnretarded
10:33:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > "miners would be forced to raise tx fees". I don't agree with this statement. Miners don't set fees. See Theorem 1 of "Monopoly without a Monopolist"
10:36:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Cuz seth isnt cucked and actually admins instead of being a weirdo
10:37:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But he left most rooms / isnt an admin in most. He wasnt the drunk tweeter though
10:39:40 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Yes
10:39:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^
10:39:52 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> This got ironed out in this channel yesterday IIRC
10:40:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ok. Wasnt sure.
10:40:19 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Yeah, good to double check
10:40:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Tell ajs to fix the title
10:40:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero:
10:40:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> not
10:40:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> monero's
10:41:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/LOCGbDNNDwDTUdWcATDrdjXh
10:42:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Those OG videos arent uploaded on ajs channel either
10:42:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> they are linked
10:43:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The "monero" channel is owned by savandra
10:44:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And the community workgroup channel, i guess ajs. Not sure who else has access. 
10:44:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If i was you, id want the video linked.. not reuploaded
10:45:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Already have 5k views on og video, right
11:09:30 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> hey im interested in starting to mine monero
11:09:37 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> i found the vid where mental outlaw explains how to do it but i dont think that he mentions the distro
11:09:44 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> does it matter
11:31:46 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> no
11:35:12 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> One they works for you
11:35:17 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> One that works for you
11:37:50 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> alright thanks
13:26:33 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Mental outlaw 10/10 monero bro
13:50:36 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> i found you while watching the vid looking for options
13:50:50 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> so your .img file can be run on proxmox?
13:50:56 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> its a live iso?
13:54:16 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> I have replied to you in the moneroOS room.
13:54:37 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Generally speaking I don't think mining in a VM is a good idea
13:54:59 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> Oh okay, that sucks
15:35:30 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> idk who was talking about mining using whonix, but i would recommend converting a minimal debian install to kicksecure instead if you really want to go that rout so that way you're mining on bare metal still
15:35:31 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/Debian
16:07:01 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Mine to p2pool
16:10:22 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> p2pool is the best pool
16:11:37 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> brooo i should commission an artist i know to create a p2pool-inspired piece where it's a bunch of monero-chans at an onsen ♨️
16:21:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Cute
16:22:42 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> ikr
17:15:51 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> attack on privacy coin started the power that be will never allow privacy coin to exist they will not stop at nothing until all coin are either become surveillance coin or fake privacy coin with backdoors
17:16:01 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> https://forum.firo.org/t/firo-private-transactions-balancing-with-mica-regulations/3010/6
17:17:03 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> i heard that in the vid, why is it best?
17:17:42 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> It's decentralized aka has no admins and can't launch a 51% attack
17:17:50 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Instant payouts, zero fees
17:17:55 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> oh nice
17:18:12 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> but if everybody uses that wont the percentage increase?
17:18:20 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> also whats a 51 percent attack?
17:18:21 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> If you take part in xmrvsbeasts hashrate raffle, you'll make a lot more than by just regular mining
17:18:23 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> attack on privacy coin started the power that be will never allow privacy coin to exist they will stop at nothing until all coin are either surveillance coin or fake privacy coin with backdoors
17:18:49 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> If everyone would use p2pool, a 51% attack wouldn't be possible
17:18:51 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> i dont know if i have the hardware and im virtualising
17:19:39 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> solo mining and p2pool mandatory option is the way to go
17:19:46 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> It's when you purposefully mess with the chain. It let's you reverse recent transactions and mine empty blocks
17:20:04 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> You don't need special hardware to take part in the raffle
17:20:14 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Pay for service, service confirms, reverse the transaction, free money
17:20:31 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> damn
17:20:46 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> didnt know that could happen
17:21:07 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> so debian+kicksecure would do the job?
17:21:10 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Think about it. The network has a consensus. When you have most of the hashrate, you can influence the consensus.
17:21:15 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> and ofc the tutorial
17:21:37 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> brams0: check out gupax.io
17:21:48 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> You don't need anything special
17:22:05 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Just a vm with some resources allocated to it
17:22:11 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Can be debian, ubuntu, windows if you want
17:22:23 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> hashrate can always be made no?
17:22:45 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> anything could happen if their is a will their will be a way 😉
17:23:18 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> You have to spend a fuckton of electricity to attack it.
17:23:21 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> that streamlines the setup, thanks
17:23:52 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Just do a debian install with gupax, think that's the best option.
17:24:16 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Try some lightweight de like xfce or i3 or smthng
17:24:40 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> i dont think that ill need a DE
17:24:58 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> i could use monero cli wallet
17:25:01 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Gupax needs one tho
17:25:25 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Otherwise you would have to setup the mining from cli. Shouldn't be too hard if your experienced.
17:25:35 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> And feel comfortable with cli
17:26:25 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> ill get a DE to start but ill prob switch to CLI down the line
17:26:42 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> 4gb of space and 4 vcpus should be enough?
17:26:48 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> maybe a gig of ram?
17:27:06 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Will probably need a bit more ram
17:27:40 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> The more the better ofc (higher hashrate, more payouts etc)
17:28:47 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> Oh, I thought there is a like max
17:30:17 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> The more cpu and ram you allocate the more hashrate (calculations) you will be able to do. Which will ofc result in more monero mined
17:32:07 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> Alright then, do you think kicksecure is worth it?
17:32:36 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> more like a necessity?
17:32:58 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Not really
17:33:31 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> okay
17:34:29 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Don't really understand what kicksecure is but it just looks like a whonix clone
17:34:36 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Never used it before
17:34:37 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Don't think you need that much security to mine
17:35:24 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> yeah only thing that should be secure is my wallet
17:35:30 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> does it need much disk space
17:35:41 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> I would however recommend that you read a bit more about monero and understand how it works before wasting electricity for glorious monerochan.
17:35:45 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> I dont want give it too much either
17:36:26 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> ill just give it 4 for now
17:37:10 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> You really don't have to have that high op sec
17:37:54 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> you got any sources on where i could learn more about monero?
17:37:59 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Especially if your using that wallet to get mining rewards
17:38:33 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> mining rewards=money?
17:38:59 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> https://web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
17:39:09 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> If youve got a lot of time to waste
17:39:36 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Yes
17:41:22 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> you a bit shorter 😅?
17:41:55 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/what-is-monero/
17:41:56 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Always a good start
17:42:25 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Have you had any prior experience with cryptocurrencies?
17:42:31 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> ive read/seen that one a couple months age, doesnt hurt to look at it again
17:42:58 <m-relay> <b​rams:matrix.im> yeah but only monero
17:44:40 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> If you want to read about how mining works with monero you can read this https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/
18:27:19 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> (You can still do a 51% attack on your own - you just don't get to exploit the rest of p2pool's hashrate to your advantage, like a pool owner could on a traditional pool)
18:29:09 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I mean yeah
18:29:37 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> With outside hashrate but you can't collude with other XMR miners
18:30:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> At least not as easy as calling up 2-3 mining pool admins
18:40:16 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> if would be cool if wownero went both solo mining and p2pool mandatory mining only
18:40:29 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> so we could test it live
18:53:39 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> You can't allow p2pool without also allowing normal pools
18:57:27 <plowsof> wownero still has a form of "pool mining" right?
18:58:03 <plowsof> monerobull ran/is running a "pool"?
20:44:19 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Fuck no
20:44:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I have never touched wow
20:45:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I just know that people still Pool-Mine on wow, it now just requires even more trust in the operators
20:49:11 <hbergeron> wow is monerochan's cute younger sister 
20:54:40 <dukenukem> hbergeron!
20:55:05 <hbergeron> rotten!
20:56:16 <dukenukem> <plowsof> plowsof
20:56:53 <dukenukem> why do you have a tendency to use quotation marks and parenthesis where not needed, mate? chat gpt broke?
21:04:24 * m-relay <p​lowsof:matrix.org> searches for what a parenthesis is
21:07:12 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> ¡
21:11:43 <dukenukem> plowsof please consider / evaluate 'not' using so (many) "quotation marks" and (round brackets) , it makes you "look / appear" extra bri'ish , or "AI".
21:13:59 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Oh, dear critic, your concern for my excessive "quotation marks" and (round brackets) has not fallen on deaf "ears." I must admit, I was simply trying to "embrace" my inner Britishness and give myself a touch of that charming AI flair. But, since you've pointed it out, I'll "consider" toning it down – just don't blame me if I end up sounding "a bit" less cheeky! Cheers, mate! 🇬🇧😄
21:19:01 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> plowsof: if / when it 'were/was just "quotation" marks' and (round) brackets / parentheses , that would be "fine" , but it's the spaces and forward / slashes between the "symbols" too ! Do you notice it better when 'someone' else does it? Maybe it is a bit "irky" to others, matey mate ?
21:19:57 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> Time to pipe it down before we get banned for inciting grammar n*zism in the community channel! God save the king!
21:48:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero Offtopic  with your heads
21:49:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (really, Monero Mining   or Monero  probably)
21:49:26 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Mini mod
21:49:52 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> #clone wars
22:30:51 <m-relay> <p​lazma_69> rip then